From Trina:
This is the group chat that decided Carrie to leave. Tell me if you guys make anything of this.
7:31:15 PM spies3reicheru: Anneliese is not responding...
7:31:20 PM spies3trina: ugh
7:32:02 PM spies3reicheru: Konichiwa!
7:32:09 PM spies3anneliese: hey
7:32:10 PM spies3reicheru: I start to worry you have been picked off.
7:32:17 PM spies3trina: heh
7:32:24 PM spies3reicheru: OK... I have a new suspect list.
7:32:25 PM spies3anneliese: nope, just watching some tv in between typing lol
7:32:34 PM spies3reicheru: No problem, sorry to drag you away AGAIN Anneliese!
7:32:52 PM spies3reicheru: For Trina's benefit, I seem to be your personal stalker right now.
7:32:58 PM spies3reicheru: But anyway...
7:33:09 PM spies3trina: i just want to make sure we have enough votes for carrie becuase if she goes it targets so many
7:33:10 PM spies3reicheru: I go through the last few conversations and voting lists I have.
7:33:11 PM spies3trina: and clears others
7:33:16 PM spies3reicheru: Hai, I agree.
7:33:26 PM spies3reicheru: But so far I know only of TWO - me and Anneliese.
7:33:30 PM spies3reicheru: That is not a huge majority!
7:33:34 PM spies3trina: what about jess, brooks
7:33:43 PM spies3reicheru: I have not seen them.
7:33:46 PM spies3trina: how much is majority
7:33:52 PM spies3reicheru: I would think Brooks would definitely vote Carrie... but I do not know.
7:34:07 PM spies3reicheru: Trina - we may need over two thirds of the votors.
7:34:08 PM spies3anneliese: I got umm...
7:34:11 PM spies3anneliese: someone to vote Carrie
7:34:12 PM spies3anneliese: Matthew
7:34:20 PM spies3reicheru: Not surprising... but good.
7:34:24 PM spies3trina: ill get taylor and bruce
7:34:29 PM spies3reicheru: Hai.
7:34:37 PM spies3reicheru: OK then...
7:34:49 PM spies3reicheru: Anneliese, I have now posted Juvenile, and I recall you DID mention it before.
7:34:56 PM spies3reicheru: At the time we were talking about whether it is a clue or not.
7:35:02 PM spies3reicheru: Here is my question: what if it is?
7:35:12 PM spies3reicheru: The two joint youngest players are Tenchi and myself.
7:35:17 PM spies3reicheru: It could only refer to one of us.
7:35:35 PM spies3reicheru: ANd obviously I know it is not referring to me...
7:35:49 PM spies3trina: good point
7:35:58 PM spies3reicheru: I have other good points.
7:36:05 PM spies3reicheru: I am wary because I do not want to do another "Judith".
7:36:15 PM spies3reicheru: And I am by no means certain of Tenchi... BUT...
7:36:20 PM spies3reicheru: I look, as I say, over my chat records.
7:36:40 PM spies3reicheru: Before exile 2 I tell him straight out that Carrie has a majority vote unless Tyler is voted out due to penalties.
7:36:43 PM spies3trina: i have a feeling on tenchi being a strong one
7:37:02 PM spies3reicheru: Yes, but do you remember what happens just after that conversation, Anneliese?
7:37:37 PM spies3reicheru: (She is watching TV.. she can recap later.)
7:37:45 PM spies3trina: lol yeah
7:37:46 PM spies3reicheru: Point is, Carrie, Miles and Tenchi ALL VOTE FOR THIRD PARTIES.
7:38:01 PM spies3reicheru: Miles and Carrie are explainable, especially if they are spies.
7:38:03 PM spies3reicheru: But Tenchi?
7:38:30 PM spies3anneliese: sorry lol
7:38:44 PM spies3reicheru: What if he wants to avoid pushing the Carrie total over the amount of penalties Tyler has
7:38:53 PM spies3reicheru: But cannot vote Tyler himself as it would be too suspicious?
7:38:54 PM spies3anneliese: That would make sense, yes...
7:39:07 PM spies3reicheru: The thing is, he KNOWS how many Penalties Tyler stands to gain
7:39:17 PM spies3reicheru: but eh DOESNT know whether Tyler has posted a conversation or not.
7:39:25 PM spies3reicheru: You had one with him, remember Annie?
7:39:41 PM spies3reicheru: So if Tyler only gets SEVEN votes, not twelve, a Tenchi vote for Carrie could be CRITICAL.
7:40:22 PM spies3reicheru: Next exile, Tenchi defends Carrie a LOT.
7:40:27 PM spies3reicheru: He pushes Judith as a suspect...
7:40:35 PM spies3reicheru: And afterwards I apologise for "playing" him!
7:40:45 PM spies3reicheru: What if it was I who got played, not Tenchi?
7:40:48 PM spies3anneliese: Yes Jess and I both pushed Tyler to have conversations
7:41:12 PM spies3reicheru: THat is it... Tyler only needed to post two.
7:41:15 PM spies3anneliese: This is a very strong point...
7:41:30 PM spies3reicheru: Tenchi cannot know for certain, so he and Miles CAN'T risk a Carrie vote.
7:41:38 PM spies3anneliese: And he had two from Jessie and I, which is why I'm not suspicious of her... I doubt a spy would push so hard for Tyler to be active
7:41:39 PM spies3reicheru: But nor can they give themselves away by voting Tyler.
7:41:51 PM spies3anneliese: true...
7:42:12 PM spies3reicheru: The hting is, NOBODY ELSE LEFT votes a third party.
7:42:15 PM spies3trina: if we eliminate tenchi, it gets you imprisoned i feel reicheru
7:42:15 PM spies3reicheru: Only Tenchi and Miles.
7:42:21 PM spies3reicheru: Hai.
7:42:31 PM spies3reicheru: So I suggest we focus on easier targets... and besides, this is pure theory.
7:42:32 PM spies3trina: no wonder i feel you two are so close..gosh
7:42:47 PM spies3reicheru: Hai... I feel so used!
7:43:04 PM spies3reicheru: That cowardly seducer, whispering sweet nothings in my ear...
7:43:06 PM spies3trina: and why is jack not on board the carrie train?
7:43:12 PM spies3trina: especially since you guys trust him so much
7:43:21 PM spies3reicheru: Trina - because I haven't seen him yet.
7:43:24 PM spies3trina: oh lol
7:43:26 PM spies3trina: makes sense
7:43:53 PM spies3reicheru: So anyway my new prime suspect list is:
7:43:55 PM spies3reicheru: CARRIE.
7:43:57 PM spies3reicheru: RAPHAEL.
7:43:58 PM spies3reicheru: MILES.
7:44:00 PM spies3reicheru: TENCHI.
7:44:10 PM spies3reicheru: And I was thinking BEBE, but JORDAN is also possible in that spot.
7:44:12 PM spies3trina: i dont feel raphael is a spy
7:44:19 PM spies3trina: replace raphael with jordan
7:44:23 PM spies3reicheru: Hmmm... you did not see our conversation earlier.
7:44:43 PM spies3reicheru: I basically told him Carrie was going, whatever happened elsewhere.
7:44:47 PM spies3anneliese: Now that I've seen the "Spy thread excerpts", I really feel like Tenchi could be a spy
7:44:52 PM spies3reicheru: It was almost funny, he had NO IDEA how to respond.
7:45:08 PM spies3reicheru: He didn't want to contradict me and yet he couldn't agree with me.
7:45:14 PM spies3anneliese: one of them talked about playing everyone and knowing everything and tenchi has been at the center of all of our "groups" conversations and plots
7:45:27 PM spies3reicheru: Hai, that also occured to me.
7:46:03 PM spies3reicheru: Can I invite Jessica?
7:46:08 PM spies3anneliese: yes please
7:46:16 PM spies3reicheru: OK... I would keep this Tenchi theory quiet for now.
7:46:20 PM spies3anneliese: and then one of the spies said "I'll get the others to push for Judith"
7:46:23 PM spies3anneliese: that strikes me as very odd
7:46:32 PM spies3reicheru: It is best if only a few people know, that way nobody else can give it away.
7:46:36 PM spies3anneliese: okay
7:46:49 PM spies3reicheru: Of course if Carrie goes, Jessica can be safe... but taht does not necessarily mean discreet.
7:47:25 PM spies3trina: well im trying to convince taylor to vote for carrie now
7:47:27 PM spies3trina: she's budging
7:47:28 PM spies3trina: its tough
7:47:34 PM spies3reicheru: The more the merrier.
7:47:39 PM spies3reicheru: I invite Jess...
7:47:42 PM spies3reicheru: Oh, she is here.
7:47:47 PM spies3reicheru: Konichiwa again!
7:47:49 PM spies3jessica: sorry for taking a while, I was preparing my supper
7:47:51 PM spies3anneliese: htye there
7:47:59 PM spies3anneliese: So I can type
7:48:01 PM spies3anneliese: hey there lol
7:48:04 PM spies3trina: hiya
7:48:13 PM spies3jessica: Is jack not here for a reason?
7:48:27 PM spies3reicheru: Erm... he was not online a moment ago.
7:48:29 PM spies3reicheru: I check...
7:48:35 PM spies3jessica: he is now
7:48:55 PM spies3reicheru: I invite him.
7:48:56 PM spies3anneliese: wow I'm sleepy already
7:48:56 PM spies3anneliese: lol
7:49:02 PM spies3reicheru: Konichiwa!
7:49:07 PM spies3reicheru: Good to have you with us.
7:49:08 PM spies3anneliese: Jack Attack
7:49:11 PM spies3jessica: mmmmm... poutine is delicious
7:49:33 PM spies3anneliese: If I didn't already know you were Canadian, I would now :-P
7:49:39 PM spies3jessica: haha
7:49:49 PM spies3jack: Hi
7:49:58 PM spies3jessica: Its a shame there isn't poutine everywhere
7:50:04 PM spies3jessica: it would make the world a better place
7:50:07 PM spies3reicheru: So we share saki, poutine, and plotting...
7:50:14 PM spies3jack: *waves his hands and poutine appears*
7:50:37 PM spies3jessica: so it seems we may finally get to see carrie go?
7:50:44 PM spies3trina: unless i put a stop to it
7:50:46 PM spies3trina: which i might.
7:50:48 PM spies3reicheru: I think we have to try.
7:50:53 PM spies3jessica: oh yeah
7:50:53 PM spies3jack: Trina
7:50:55 PM spies3jack: Seriously
7:51:02 PM spies3jack: You need to use your ability this time
7:51:12 PM spies3reicheru: Well Trina... if you prefer us to go for a second target so you can use your ability and take Carrie out instead...
7:51:19 PM spies3jack: If you don't, I'd give an 85% shot of you being imprisoned
7:51:28 PM spies3reicheru: That is an idea, actually.
7:51:42 PM spies3reicheru: What if we all split votes...
7:51:53 PM spies3reicheru: Vote complete neutrals or Brooks...
7:51:57 PM spies3trina: and if im bluffing?
7:52:04 PM spies3reicheru: And THEN have Trina use her ability so that she is not imprisoned?
7:52:05 PM spies3trina: you guys will waste an exile as well
7:52:15 PM spies3reicheru: Trina - if that is the case, then we are f--ked.
7:52:17 PM spies3trina: so i suggest you guys vote together
7:52:22 PM spies3jack: Well yeah
7:52:29 PM spies3jack: We do need to plan our votes, I agree
7:52:36 PM spies3jessica: so you are basically saying that you ARE bluffing?
7:52:40 PM spies3jack: But what I'm saying is don't NOT use your ability, heh
7:52:54 PM spies3reicheru: Hmmm... this puts us in an awkward position.
7:53:08 PM spies3reicheru: Anneliese, I do not suppose there is anybody who can check Trina for an ability
7:53:10 PM spies3reicheru: like they did me?
7:53:12 PM spies3trina: just vote together
7:53:19 PM spies3anneliese: hmm...
7:53:20 PM spies3jack: The problem is I have no idea who would be a good candidate to usei t on
7:53:22 PM spies3trina: i think its a good progress you guys ar emaking
7:53:24 PM spies3anneliese: not anymore
7:53:24 PM spies3anneliese: that was a gift Rei.
7:53:26 PM spies3jack: Carrie, maybe
7:53:37 PM spies3anneliese: okay, Trina's basically admitting she doesn't have it :-P
7:53:39 PM spies3reicheru: Well we are going to vote Carrie anyway.
7:53:45 PM spies3anneliese: Let Trina play her cards tonight, we must vote Carrie regardless
7:53:53 PM spies3jack: Yea
7:53:55 PM spies3anneliese: We've let each other play the cards we like, tonight is her turn
7:54:03 PM spies3trina: its my turn to play the cards
7:54:08 PM spies3trina: and im doing the best i can
7:54:09 PM spies3jack: Alright
7:54:12 PM spies3trina: you guys just dont know it
7:54:14 PM spies3jack: I'm fine by that
7:54:22 PM spies3jack: I'm just saying it would be in your best interest to use your ability
7:54:28 PM spies3jack: Just a little bit of advice is all
7:54:45 PM spies3jessica: Just one question, was carrie one of the people who accussed judy when she got those 3 extra votes?
7:54:54 PM spies3jack: I don't think so
7:55:00 PM spies3jack: I was one, so was Anneliese
7:55:05 PM spies3jack: I think the other was Reicheru?
7:55:13 PM spies3jessica: ok, at the time I though carrie may have done it
7:55:14 PM spies3reicheru: No.
7:55:15 PM spies3reicheru: Tenchi.
7:55:20 PM spies3anneliese: I still do not know the third accusation
7:55:23 PM spies3anneliese: was it Tenchi?
7:55:25 PM spies3reicheru: What?
7:55:29 PM spies3reicheru: I thought that was confirmed?
7:55:30 PM spies3jack: If it was, I didn't tell him to do it
7:55:37 PM spies3reicheru: I accuse Judith in exile TWO, not exile THREE.
7:55:42 PM spies3trina: claire is voting bebe or jessica tonight
7:55:43 PM spies3jack: Oh
7:55:44 PM spies3reicheru: And therefore use up my accusation for Judith.
7:55:45 PM spies3trina: she's actively pushing bebe
7:55:49 PM spies3jack: Well, we thought maybe they carried over
7:55:54 PM spies3anneliese: Yeah I didn't tell Tenchi to accuse Judith
7:55:57 PM spies3jessica: does she have a reason to vote me?
7:55:57 PM spies3anneliese: only one I told was Jack
7:56:00 PM spies3reicheru: You cannot use an accusation more than once.
7:56:04 PM spies3reicheru: That is definite.
7:56:04 PM spies3anneliese: that's why I was confused unless accusations carry over
7:56:09 PM spies3jack: Hmm
7:56:12 PM spies3jack: Well I have no idea then
7:56:12 PM spies3reicheru: So someone else knows who Judith is?
7:56:15 PM spies3reicheru: That is interesting...
7:56:16 PM spies3jack: I was told at literally the last minute
7:56:26 PM spies3anneliese: yes I was told to do it just minutes before, in case we needed it
7:56:56 PM spies3anneliese: I don't see why Carrie has a reason to vote you Jess...
7:57:13 PM spies3jessica: I was totally in the dark. I though carrie might have figured out and pulled a crazy move to save herself
7:57:23 PM spies3trina: if carrie turns out to be a citizen
7:57:29 PM spies3trina: you guys are essentially f*cked honeslty
7:57:41 PM spies3trina: doesnt that throw your plans out the window?
7:57:42 PM spies3jessica: you guys?
7:57:44 PM spies3trina: and connections?
7:57:45 PM spies3reicheru: I cannot see how that is possible, I can simply not.
7:57:55 PM spies3reicheru: Every spy possibility I have has Carrie and Miles in it.
7:58:06 PM spies3trina: okay
7:58:10 PM spies3reicheru: Unless there are no spies at all in the first group, I do not see it.
7:58:11 PM spies3jessica: seriously, we have to get ONE eventually
7:58:13 PM spies3trina: go for it
7:58:30 PM spies3reicheru: Trina - my top suspects are Carrie and Miles.
7:58:31 PM spies3jack: Honestly, I think the spies are playing a much more subtle role
7:58:36 PM spies3reicheru: If you do not choose one, the other would be better.
7:58:37 PM spies3jack: And Miles & Carrie do seem to fit
7:58:49 PM spies3jessica: I havent seen miles in ages
7:58:55 PM spies3reicheru: I just think we look for the wrong things...
7:59:14 PM spies3reicheru: We look for someone actively sabotaging thigs, when in fact it is US doing the sabotaging...
7:59:20 PM spies3reicheru: The spies just sit back and let it happen!
7:59:32 PM spies3reicheru: One thing I am alert for is people who suddenly become much more proactive.
7:59:36 PM spies3trina: thank YOU
7:59:36 PM spies3reicheru: but I have not seen it yet.
7:59:43 PM spies3trina: my god...thats how i felt all along really
7:59:56 PM spies3trina: that you guys were sabotaging yourself with judith and jenipher honestly..it didnt make sense to me
8:00:06 PM spies3reicheru: Jennipher had nothing to do with me.
8:00:21 PM spies3jessica: sorry if I seem distracted,"so you think you can dance" is coming on
8:00:24 PM spies3anneliese: *sheepishly shuffles feet*
8:00:36 PM spies3anneliese: I want to watch that but I can't while I'm here
lol
8:00:37 PM spies3reicheru: I am grateful that there is ONE citizen exile I do not help to organize!
8:00:42 PM spies3anneliese: Nobody will ever be better than Travis though
8:01:05 PM spies3anneliese: But anyway...
8:01:05 PM spies3jessica: I LOVED travis
8:01:11 PM spies3reicheru: Travis was great.
8:01:11 PM spies3anneliese: I agree about us sabotaging ourselves
8:01:15 PM spies3anneliese: which is why I turned to Miles
8:01:18 PM spies3reicheru: Hai.
8:01:21 PM spies3anneliese: the ultimate Under The Radar player
8:01:29 PM spies3reicheru: It is odd, everyone has their own reasons for suspecting miles.
8:01:33 PM spies3reicheru: With me it is his voting...
8:01:35 PM spies3anneliese: he IMed me for the first time today
8:01:37 PM spies3jessica: Early on in the game miles and I had a flirty thing
8:01:39 PM spies3reicheru: With Arthur it is his posts in the exile questions.
8:01:40 PM spies3anneliese: other times it is always me IMing him'
8:01:46 PM spies3reicheru: Which actually makes a lot of sense, Arthur is right there.
8:01:53 PM spies3anneliese: I found it quite funny that today when his time could be up he finally takes intiative
8:02:01 PM spies3jessica: we sorta had a hot tub scene that made sam warn us to keep it PG 13
8:02:10 PM spies3anneliese: lol
8:02:11 PM spies3reicheru: Hey, I have been warned that as well!
8:02:25 PM spies3anneliese: I'm too old for anyone to get higher than G
8:02:28 PM spies3anneliese: lol
8:02:30 PM spies3reicheru: It was a comment I made about Tenchi slicing my muffin... quite harmless really.
8:02:35 PM spies3anneliese: lmao!
8:02:40 PM spies3jessica: lol
8:03:00 PM spies3jessica: We actually soft-core cybered
8:03:02 PM spies3jessica: lol
8:03:09 PM spies3jack: Sandulous
8:03:12 PM spies3jack: scandulous
8:03:15 PM spies3jack: Or however it is spelled
8:03:21 PM spies3reicheru: No, I preferred your first spelling.
8:03:29 PM spies3jessica: You can read the log after the game
8:03:32 PM spies3jack: Whatever floats your boat <3
8:03:46 PM spies3jessica: unless sam takes it down
8:03:55 PM spies3jack: You know Sam loves it
8:04:29 PM spies3jessica: hot tub handjob
8:04:36 PM spies3jessica: O:-)
8:04:47 PM spies3anneliese: oh. my.
8:04:51 PM spies3jack: Really I am uncomfortable voting anyone at this point
8:05:01 PM spies3jack: I just think the evidence is very tight at this point
8:05:17 PM spies3jack: Statistically speaking there should be 1-2 spies in this room
8:05:21 PM spies3jack: Which is a bit unnerving
8:05:23 PM spies3reicheru: I do not know... there are a few people I am fairly sure are spies.
8:05:32 PM spies3reicheru: And a few people I am fairly sure are not (present company included).
8:05:33 PM spies3jack: That probability only increases each time we screw up
8:05:38 PM spies3reicheru: Hai.
8:05:46 PM spies3jack: Well, I agree
8:05:52 PM spies3reicheru: My worry is that with each spy comes an extra vote.
8:06:01 PM spies3reicheru: We get to the point that if ALL citizens do not work together, we could be toast.
8:06:25 PM spies3reicheru: We barely outnumber them three to one now... a few weeks ago it was almost five to one.
8:07:21 PM spies3anneliese: yes
8:07:39 PM spies3anneliese: as Jack and I have calculated though
8:07:48 PM spies3anneliese: right now our odds of catching a spy are almost about 40%
8:08:02 PM spies3jack: Well I'd increase that a bit more
8:08:06 PM spies3anneliese: which is great, and we're bound to get one soon
8:08:10 PM spies3reicheru: That is actually really bad... FIVE exiles and we do not have one yet?
8:08:12 PM spies3jack: Because I'm not pretty much convinced that Shane is a Citizen
8:08:25 PM spies3reicheru: You're NOT convinced?
8:08:29 PM spies3reicheru: Or you ARE convinced?
8:08:34 PM spies3jack: Woops
8:08:38 PM spies3jack: I mean now