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Post by Tenchi on May 17, 2007 10:05:52 GMT -5
Remember when they tell you in chess that you should think two or three turns ahead, I think its the same here. Post a possible boot sequence that we can use as Spies. All discussions while Sam hasn't posted an Imprisonment thread can go here. (It's funny how this smiley works well for us five. Im the green one!)
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Post by Claire on May 17, 2007 11:05:37 GMT -5
This is really hard to do, but I'll give it a try.
Step 1: Imprison Audrey. Step 2: Exile Judith or Carrie (however the votes end up going) Step 3: Imprison Matthew
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Post by Jessica on May 17, 2007 11:10:14 GMT -5
I think the exile setup of Judy -> Carrie -> Jack is very possible. But that is assuming groups stay static from now and the jack exile. I haven't talked to rei or Anneliese yet, but I am hoping they still think a spy is either carrie or jack because that guarantees us two in a row, then might throw suspicion on rei for suggesting carrie or jack is a spy. But looking 4 exiles down the road is very inacurrate.
As for imprisonment planning ahead of time, it will rarely ever stay as it is planned, because you need to know the votes to make the decisions.
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Post by Claire on May 17, 2007 11:11:50 GMT -5
Yup, it's a very tough thing to do. There's no way to predict how the people are going to behave!
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Post by Bebe on May 17, 2007 13:10:43 GMT -5
ha waste an imprisonment on matthew? that is a good one claire, hahahahahahaha. very good joke.
i do see a way of how we could do it mid-game that would help the spies, but round 3? surely not.
off the top of my head, i am not sure what boot list i want to see but i do want to make sure that:
1) people with pro-citizen roles go;
2) people seriously consider the secret mission people as suspects too to increase our suspect list and make people more paranoid
3) judith and anneliese go ASAP.
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Post by Bebe on May 17, 2007 13:11:30 GMT -5
oh and i am the pink one!!!
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Post by Claire on May 17, 2007 13:22:55 GMT -5
I picked a name at random. and you guys like someone more utr! and can I be yellow?
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Post by Raphael on May 17, 2007 13:43:04 GMT -5
Brooks is telling me that Anneliese is telling him that if we pick her for imprisionment, one of us have to leave instead because she found some thing that gives her "immunity" for this round. I do not know how reliable this is, but if it is true, than I think we should keep Brooks around a little so that I can still get info from him about other players.
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Post by Bebe on May 17, 2007 13:56:57 GMT -5
hey raphael could you put this in the anneliese thread so we have it all in one place, and leave this one for big picture stuff?
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Post by Raphael on May 17, 2007 15:21:14 GMT -5
yeah, sorry. I just wanted to get it posted, thats all
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Post by Tenchi on May 17, 2007 22:53:56 GMT -5
Brooks has a big mouth doesn't he... He looks framable to me. One of these Exiles can be a Brooks Exile. Anyway, I'm looking for somebody vague, but active to be the next Imprisonment. Something like Bruce, Miles or Taylor. We keep Sujata and Matthew for frustration.
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Post by Tenchi on May 18, 2007 8:25:19 GMT -5
I think we should forsee the next Exile to be idlers exploding all over again.
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Post by Jessica on May 18, 2007 14:11:07 GMT -5
I was just thinking about a way to get rid of anneliese. An imprisonment would point to too many of us and may not even work with the possible bunker, and it doesn't seem like it would be an easy task getting the support of the majority.
One other way we could get her out is VIA trina, with her do or die ability. I realize this is definitely in the rough stages of development, but do any of you think it would be possible to turn the two against eachother?
I know Anneliese has a short fuse and is quick to upset people (like her squabble with Brooks). If we can somehow pit the two against eachother, Anneliese would probably piss off trina and trina would explode at her.
I am in no way in the position of telling if Trina would be able to be manipulated like that, but I feel that throwing out this idea may be good.
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Post by Bebe on May 18, 2007 14:43:09 GMT -5
trina and anneliese definitely have short fuses, yes. active tempers. right now anneliese does not trust trina 100% but trina has a fair amount of trust in anneliese.
i think down the road the 2 can be turned against each other, yes.
trina is determined not to use her power until there are less spies in the game. but if she thinks it's do or die (lol) she may use it earlier out of panic.
i will keep your idea in mind jessica and let you know as the game goes on.
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Post by Tenchi on May 18, 2007 18:02:56 GMT -5
I can do a suggestion on Anneliese if you want to give this plan a go. I wonder if Trina had reasons to jump on Judith...?
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Post by Tenchi on May 18, 2007 21:24:54 GMT -5
New criteria for Imprisonment(a self-note that I want to share)
1. Somebody vocal 2. All s/he does is throw out suspicions 3. And those supicions are wrong, but not necessarily stupid.
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Post by Jessica on May 19, 2007 8:14:49 GMT -5
So you think we should start making impact imprisonments? The person who you described seems to be anneliese, but we would draw the most attention from that, Me tenchi and claire.
Who else has been vocal but wrong?
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Post by Tenchi on May 19, 2007 9:37:14 GMT -5
I'm thinking this is the best time to Imprison Anneliese, especially with the thought of the role has come out.
Not only that, it will enforce that inactives/semi-inactives are Spies. The only way they would imprison dumb targets and now, Annie is through the news in the boards.
I see no disadvantage in not imprisoning her now.
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Post by Jessica on May 19, 2007 9:52:11 GMT -5
Okay, so say that we imprison Anneliese, wee need to go over some of the accusations that could be thrown out. We need to list them along with every defense we can use.
We'll start by listing accusations.
Accusation 1 Reicheru or Jack says:
So Jessica, jack, tenchi and reicheru were given the real word, one of us would need to be a spy in order for her to have been killed.
Result: -I am exiled and the rest of you get off free. -Jack is exiled, then I am exiled next round
[Defense: -Anneliese was lying about the role to keep the imprisonment off of herself -Anneliese was lying about the specifics of her role and it may have been a role that lets her see the alignment of whoever posts said word. -The number of citizen posts needed increased when the new players joined the game, and we didn't have enough.
If you have any other possible accusations that could be mounted against us, please post them and possible defenses. If we are gonna take out Anneliese, we need to do it right.
Also, we will probably need an accussation or two of our own for potential citizens we can frame, any thoughts will help.
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Post by Jessica on May 19, 2007 9:59:15 GMT -5
Just thought of one
Our Accusation 1
I say
-Brooks calling out Anneliese on having a role is a perfect way to make himself look innocent if he was planning on taking her out since it would give everyone a reason to. -Brooks needed to get out Anneliese because Anneliese despised brooks and I am sure brooks knew it. Anneliese told me she went as far as to block Brooks on AIM.
result -Brooks is framed and either exiled now or set up for one in the near future.
Possible defenses: -?
Any suggestions of what he may say are necissary as we will need to prepare counter-couter arguments.
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Post by Tenchi on May 19, 2007 10:10:27 GMT -5
Brooks really doesn't have an ally from what I see. I don't even know what Trina thinks about this whole thing. I doubt he will believe Brooks though.
Also, I can't think of an excuse for him.
A defense (as I've said in my previous post) can be that some Spies are inactives that just rely on the boards to see whats going on.
Also, me and Jack could press for the Exile of Jennipher since Annie told her the word (after a long wait!). Judy is really a big ally of hers and you just flipped sides. Jennipher is vulnerable as ever.
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Post by Jessica on May 19, 2007 11:43:02 GMT -5
Yeah, Anneliese told me that she wanted to vote for jenn as well. She could very well be a perfect target, but I feel as though I am betraying everyone. I will have to stick with her regardless of whether or not she is to be exiled.
So do you know if Anneliese eventually gave jenn the real word, or if she just gave her a fake word.
I think that if you and Jack push for Jenn, and I push for brooks, we could get a nice split that may result in a brooks -> Jenn setup.
The only reason I would rather have brooks before jenn is because people might want to go for me when they see Jenn is citizen. After all, I am one of the two people that Anneliese told the word to in the last episode.
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Post by Jessica on May 19, 2007 14:54:35 GMT -5
OMG, I completely forgot this possibility.
WHAT IF THE GIFT GIVER PROTECTS ANNELIESE
It would be an obvious move after she revealed her role publicly. I think it might be best to make another imprisonment and have her become a huge suspect based on the fact that she wasn't imprisoned. We could even push for trina to take her out.
I just think that if she survives from a gift that we are screwed because she can ask for someone to explain what saved her and the gift giver will go to her and say a gift, and they will trust her and she will have all the more power in an alliance. She already distrusts her current group enough, if she survives we are doomed. I think it would be in our best interest not to take her out with this gift giver running around.
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Post by Claire on May 19, 2007 17:12:50 GMT -5
i'm brooks' ally
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Post by Jessica on May 20, 2007 11:05:58 GMT -5
This could be relevant to our plans for exile as well as trina's suspicions
----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Do you know this person? Report IM Spam spies3trina (11:06:04 AM): Hi Jess spies3Jessica (11:06:16 AM): hello spies3trina (11:06:26 AM): so waht did you think of the convo i sent ya spies3Jessica (11:06:42 AM): bebe really got under brooks skin spies3trina (11:06:58 AM): she was really aggressive as well spies3trina (11:07:12 AM): and confrontational and straight to the point however spies3Jessica (11:07:24 AM): even more so than I was with carrie spies3trina (11:07:37 AM): lol i think you both were about even honestly spies3Jessica (11:07:53 AM): bebe reminds me of me spies3trina (11:08:12 AM): something strikes me odd about bebe...iunno. you thinks he is a spy? spies3trina (11:08:20 AM): i mean have you talked to her much to gain any suspicions spies3Jessica (11:08:32 AM): I havent talked to her that much spies3trina (11:08:38 AM): oh ok spies3Jessica (11:08:44 AM): But she seems to play the game like me from what I have seen spies3trina (11:09:00 AM): i just see no indication of where judith and brooks says that ccarrie and bebe are best friends and are working together spies3Jessica (11:09:22 AM): Yeah, I am not exactly sure where that came from spies3Jessica (11:09:52 AM): I am suspicious of brooks though spies3trina (11:10:00 AM): bebe was as well spies3Jessica (11:10:04 AM): how he called out anneliese spies3Jessica (11:10:12 AM): that seemed odd spies3trina (11:10:16 AM): on the burg forum or in that conversation? spies3Jessica (11:10:20 AM): burg spies3trina (11:10:34 AM): hmmm i didnt notice that but you're right spies3trina (11:10:39 AM): also, did you honestly post? spies3trina (11:10:53 AM): its okay if you didnt but some people are lying to anneliese and saying they posted but they really didnt spies3trina (11:11:04 AM): anneliese posted 3x so thats 3 points spies3trina (11:11:12 AM): jack posted once, he addmitted so thats 4 spies3Jessica (11:11:12 AM): I did post it spies3trina (11:11:23 AM): so you posted once thats 5 spies3trina (11:11:29 AM): tenchi, reicheru or jennipher spies3trina (11:11:32 AM): two of them are lying spies3Jessica (11:11:45 AM): I am not sure about aneliese though spies3Jessica (11:11:54 AM): She could very well be lying spies3Jessica (11:12:01 AM): not implying that she is a spy spies3trina (11:12:03 AM): about how many posts there? spies3trina (11:12:07 AM): or points? spies3trina (11:12:21 AM): i talked to anneliese yesterday and she told me hse didn't reveal everything spies3Jessica (11:12:25 AM): She didn't tell me anyhting more than is in the burg spies3trina (11:12:28 AM): she still has some things kept secret lol spies3trina (11:12:43 AM): i wish i knew what it wasnt but she's hiding it well now tho spies3Jessica (11:13:06 AM): I have a theory, but I wanna keep it quiet until after imprisonment spies3trina (11:13:19 AM): no problem. spies3trina (11:13:25 AM): i was talking to carrie yesterday spies3trina (11:13:33 AM): and had a feeling about shane this exile spies3trina (11:13:47 AM): carrie justs gets up on my suspcion list every round lol spies3trina (11:13:50 AM): it just irks me spies3Jessica (11:14:05 AM): I was so close to voting for her spies3Jessica (11:14:11 AM): she is always high on mine spies3trina (11:14:15 AM): your vote wouldnt ahve made a difference spies3trina (11:14:21 AM): so at least you went with majority spies3Jessica (11:14:57 AM): what do you think about the triple accussation votes for judy? spies3trina (11:15:11 AM): i totally forgot about the accusaitons votes until it came up spies3trina (11:15:22 AM): if i remembered about them, i wouldve vote for carrie spies3trina (11:15:37 AM): but it didnt cross my mind because a spy wouldve held their identity pretty well spies3trina (11:15:53 AM): and someone from your group knew her identity and used it tot heir advantage spies3Jessica (11:16:08 AM): I am worried it may have been a spy spies3Jessica (11:16:12 AM): or three rather spies3trina (11:16:17 AM): that crossed my mind as well spies3trina (11:16:33 AM): maybe 3 spies voted for carrie spies3trina (11:16:37 AM): and then the same 3 spies3trina (11:16:39 AM): accused judith spies3Jessica (11:16:43 AM): yeah spies3Jessica (11:17:04 AM): or carrie could be a spy and they put saved carrie with 6x vote spies3trina (11:17:19 AM): right right spies3trina (11:17:24 AM): but because the votes were so split spies3trina (11:17:28 AM): carrie/judith spies3trina (11:17:34 AM): if carrie is a spy, surely a spy voted for her spies3trina (11:17:44 AM): so spies are voting against each other or are willing to spies3trina (11:17:54 AM): so that makes me less inclined to believe carrie is a spy spies3trina (11:18:10 AM): plus she isnt getting support really. The only reason people voted judith i feel is that judy was more suspicious spies3trina (11:18:20 AM): and was frantically getting votes spies3Jessica (11:18:26 AM): Yeah spies3Jessica (11:18:54 AM): and carrie didn't even have enough support to save her from majority (minus penalties) et exile 2 spies3Jessica (11:19:04 AM): *at exile 2 spies3trina (11:19:07 AM): right spies3Jessica (11:19:30 AM): But it could be a clever spy ploy spies3trina (11:19:41 AM): too clever for carrie lol spies3Jessica (11:20:13 AM): if the spies knew judy would be getting X amounts of votes, they could have stuffed their votes with the accussations to make sure it was just out of the danger zone spies3trina (11:20:36 AM): i thinkt he votes were pretty much up in the air until the last minute spies3Jessica (11:20:39 AM): When I told carrie that I wasn't voting for her 5 minutes before exile she seemed shocked spies3trina (11:20:41 AM): at least mine was and urs spies3Jessica (11:20:47 AM): yeah spies3trina (11:21:08 AM): no one was pushing for either judy or carrie either...except bebe who pushed for judy spies3Jessica (11:21:10 AM): but it looked like it could have been set up to be a 1-2 vote gap, but it seemed bigger since I flopped spies3trina (11:21:13 AM): carrie and judy pushed for each other spies3trina (11:21:19 AM): yeah spies3trina (11:21:28 AM): do you think because you flopped spies3trina (11:21:31 AM): it makes you suspicious as well spies3Jessica (11:21:37 AM): Possibly spies3trina (11:21:44 AM): it struck me as odd honestly because there was a voting block of you reicheru and judith spies3trina (11:21:47 AM): and you broke it spies3Jessica (11:22:04 AM): But I was never really that tight with judith spies3Jessica (11:22:23 AM): I trusted her, but my allegience was more with jenn and rei and miles at that time spies3trina (11:22:36 AM): i guess the perception that you voted the same way with them all three rounds spies3trina (11:22:43 AM): made it look like it was spies3trina (11:22:46 AM): 2 rounds rather spies3trina (11:22:49 AM): tight spies3Jessica (11:23:30 AM): Yeah, I could see how players not in the know could think that spies3Jessica (11:23:43 AM): just seeing voting history can be innacurate spies3trina (11:23:51 AM): right especially early on spies3Jessica (11:23:51 AM): without the reasoning behind it spies3trina (11:23:54 AM): yeah spies3trina (11:24:07 AM): bebe pointed out to me that if all 5 spies make it to the final 10 spies3trina (11:24:08 AM): they win spies3Jessica (11:24:20 AM): yeah spies3trina (11:24:33 AM): and i think we havve about 4/5 rounds to get a sp spies3trina (11:24:34 AM): spuy spies3Jessica (11:24:48 AM): where I play werewolf, the hosts usually end the game when wolves have majority spies3trina (11:25:07 AM): really? oh gosh tahts going to be icky situation lol spies3trina (11:25:29 AM): but with the inccorporation of roles and abilities in this game, one can never know spies3Jessica (11:25:36 AM): yeah spies3trina (11:25:48 AM): so even though i think it may be true that the spies win if they all make f10 spies3Jessica (11:25:52 AM): speaking of roles, what do you think about arthur spies3trina (11:25:55 AM): there are also other circumstances spies3Jessica (11:26:00 AM): yeah spies3trina (11:26:02 AM): arthur is a loudmouth and a bigot lol spies3trina (11:26:12 AM): i like the dude but he craves attention spies3Jessica (11:26:17 AM): He pissed everyone off at exile spies3trina (11:26:25 AM): and is just getting under the skin of people and doing foolish moves spies3trina (11:26:38 AM): i totally do not think his plan of getting people to reveal abilities is working properly spies3trina (11:26:50 AM): and if he had all that information, that would just...brutal lol and dangerous spies3Jessica (11:26:52 AM): If I had a role I wouldn't reveal to him spies3trina (11:26:58 AM): i wouldn't as well spies3Jessica (11:27:01 AM): he is in no way confirmed spies3trina (11:27:13 AM): well..i think his bluntness and willing to put himself out there spies3trina (11:27:20 AM): makes him more of a citizen than you or I spies3Jessica (11:27:36 AM): I am actually quite suspicious of him spies3trina (11:27:37 AM): and its good cause if the spies see this, they may imprison him over us lol spies3trina (11:27:40 AM): really? spies3Jessica (11:27:43 AM): yeah spies3trina (11:27:51 AM): i dunno. he doesnt scream spy to me spies3Jessica (11:28:00 AM): He has stuck with the minority the whole game and critisized us for being wrong spies3trina (11:28:13 AM): hmm good point spies3Jessica (11:28:33 AM): then sticks out his neck acting like a savior asking for knowledge that could doom us all if the spies get ahold of it spies3trina (11:28:53 AM): he may be a spy because of that reasoning but overall i think he's just a poor citizen spies3trina (11:29:02 AM): not one of my targets, at least for now spies3trina (11:29:12 AM): im hoping the spies get him thats all lol spies3Jessica (11:29:19 AM): yeah spies3trina (11:29:25 AM): any thoughts on who wil be imprisoned? spies3trina (11:29:37 AM): these surprised imprisonments are coming from outta nowhere spies3Jessica (11:29:38 AM): I am worried it might be anneliese spies3trina (11:29:57 AM): i think her ability, alternative ability, or the appearance of, is making her unlikely to be the one imprisoned spies3Jessica (11:30:21 AM): But she has bluffed so much this game spies3trina (11:30:43 AM): which is good because it leaves the spies wondering spies3Jessica (11:30:46 AM): I'll tell you a secret that no one but anneliese knows spies3trina (11:30:51 AM): is it safe to? spies3Jessica (11:30:52 AM): try to keep it quiet spies3Jessica (11:30:55 AM): its not that big spies3trina (11:30:58 AM): ok lol spies3trina (11:31:04 AM): i wont say anything spies3Jessica (11:31:04 AM): but annieliese might not be happy with me spies3trina (11:31:14 AM): anneliese doesn't like talking to me i dont hink lol spies3trina (11:31:23 AM): i havent communicated or had a good and pelasnt convo with her lol spies3trina (11:31:31 AM): she holds back than she did at the beginning spies3Jessica (11:32:05 AM): Before the second imprisonment, she was scrambling to try to avoid imprisonment, so she went to jack and said "If you imprison me others will come after you" spies3Jessica (11:32:24 AM): I know it is not that big, but no one else knows spies3Jessica (11:32:37 AM): she told me not to tell anyone, but things seemed to have changed since then spies3trina (11:32:51 AM): so she avoided imprisonment by telling jack who seems to be one of the most citizenlike people in the game lol? spies3Jessica (11:33:15 AM): Actually in episode 2 we were working under the theory that it was carrie or jack as a spy spies3trina (11:33:20 AM): and i dont think there is enough votes ot go after jack, unless jennipher keeps pressuring me to vote that way lol spies3trina (11:33:23 AM): oh really? spies3Jessica (11:33:25 AM): yeah spies3trina (11:33:39 AM): i can't see how jack is a spy tho. Jack's side is pressuring me to vote jenn while jenn's side vice versa spies3Jessica (11:33:42 AM): we thought there were 3 spies in the first 15 spies3trina (11:33:46 AM): ohhh spies3Jessica (11:33:59 AM): so we assumed they split their votes as 1 jakub, one jenn, one throwaway spies3Jessica (11:34:21 AM): but since you guys joined, there is little evidence that there were actually 3 at the time spies3trina (11:34:32 AM): right. spies3trina (11:34:39 AM): can you make anything of the imprisonment of audrey? spies3trina (11:34:45 AM): i was so sure someone from your group was getting imprisoned spies3trina (11:34:48 AM): but BAM audrey spies3trina (11:34:52 AM): and im like..huh? spies3trina (11:34:59 AM): if there are more spies in my group spies3trina (11:35:09 AM): it actually makes sense that a spy would imprison one of my group members spies3Jessica (11:35:12 AM): we were so scared that it would have been rei spies3trina (11:35:13 AM): cause we knew each other a week longer spies3Jessica (11:35:20 AM): yeah spies3trina (11:35:25 AM): i actually thought ti was going to be rei as well spies3Jessica (11:35:37 AM): I was thining that maybe taking out audrey would be reverse psychology though spies3trina (11:35:45 AM): as in how? spies3Jessica (11:35:54 AM): like there are more in your group, but they wanted everyone to think the other way spies3trina (11:36:02 AM): hmmm right spies3Jessica (11:36:08 AM): jusr a theory though spies3trina (11:36:17 AM): it could potentially work. its a good theory spies3trina (11:36:41 AM): i wish i talk to people more whom i have yet to talk to much lol spies3trina (11:36:45 AM): jordan, rapahael, matthew spies3Jessica (11:37:10 AM): Also, judy and I were talking about how many spies we thought were in each group spies3Jessica (11:37:24 AM): we came to a theory that 4 or all 5 were in the new group spies3trina (11:37:25 AM): 4 in mine 1 in urs?, thats my guess spies3Jessica (11:37:29 AM): yeah spies3trina (11:37:30 AM): yep spies3trina (11:37:35 AM): thats how i feel as well spies3Jessica (11:37:50 AM): since there was little struggle in voting people off made us think there was no spy sway spies3trina (11:38:11 AM): so for this exile, i think targetting someone from my group makes the most sense spies3Jessica (11:38:21 AM): yeah spies3Jessica (11:38:25 AM): I am thinking brooks spies3trina (11:38:34 AM): bebe thought brooks was suspicious as well spies3trina (11:38:45 AM): im sorry i keep referring to bebe lol. i talk to her too much spies3Jessica (11:38:51 AM): how he tossed anneliese's name out like that spies3trina (11:38:56 AM): and she's still getting higher on my suspicion list ugh. spies3trina (11:39:14 AM): right, i dont udnerstand why he did that and it hought he had comfort in anneliese for some reason spies3trina (11:39:24 AM): but why was anneliese mad that claire responded to her in the burg spies3trina (11:39:35 AM): i dont get the anger with claire lol spies3Jessica (11:39:56 AM): One thing I was thinking is that possible brooks planned on taking out anneliese at imprisonment, but he wanted to make sure everyone had a reason to spies3Jessica (11:40:16 AM): so revealing her role would definately be a good reason spies3trina (11:40:25 AM): hmm true but her role seems useless right now spies3trina (11:40:29 AM): if a spy imprison her now spies3trina (11:40:36 AM): it seems like...for no reason really spies3trina (11:40:41 AM): unless she's lying about her points spies3trina (11:40:47 AM): like her power is very weak spies3Jessica (11:40:48 AM): thats what I was thiking spies3trina (11:40:51 AM): she has to get 27 points spies3trina (11:40:54 AM): and she only has "6" spies3trina (11:41:10 AM): if speis knew that, and imprison her, they wasted an impriosnment really and all it really does is "save someone spies3trina (11:41:17 AM): whoopie doo spies3Jessica (11:41:26 AM): I guess I will tell you my theory spies3trina (11:41:29 AM): but if htey target another person unknowningly spies3trina (11:41:36 AM): and leave anneliese till later spies3Jessica (11:41:37 AM): I think that she may really have 14 points spies3trina (11:41:40 AM): they get her before she gets the 27 points spies3Jessica (11:41:53 AM): and that her points needed atrent even that high spies3Jessica (11:42:03 AM): 27 seems like an obscenely high amount spies3Jessica (11:42:11 AM): makes the role seem pretty useless spies3trina (11:42:13 AM): could possibily be higher you believe? brooks wanted me to cnfirm it with anneliese so much yesterday lol spies3trina (11:42:16 AM): yah i agree spies3trina (11:42:30 AM): i was talking with brooks so much and he was sort pressuring me to ask anneliese lol to the extent it was awkward spies3trina (11:42:52 AM): im gong to send you the convo i ahd with brooks about points spies3Jessica (11:43:04 AM): ok spies3trina (11:44:18 AM): it really doesnt explain much spies3trina (11:44:23 AM): except the point structure spies3trina (11:44:28 AM): *sent* spies3Jessica (11:44:34 AM): thanks spies3trina (11:44:36 AM): brooks felt that anneliese points dont count spies3trina (11:44:39 AM): and that if she does have six spies3trina (11:44:48 AM): he asked reicheru, tenchi, jack and they all said they posted spies3trina (11:44:57 AM): 2-1-2 spies3trina (11:45:03 AM): or around that order spies3trina (11:45:06 AM): 5 poonts spies3trina (11:45:27 AM): and either you and jen didn't post. spies3trina (11:45:38 AM): that was his reaosning but anneliese posted 3x and had her points count so spies3trina (11:45:45 AM): it threw brooks ina loop spies3Jessica (11:45:57 AM): I was thinking maybe it only counts once each time spies3Jessica (11:46:00 AM): or she is lying spies3Jessica (11:46:06 AM): bluffing rather spies3trina (11:46:08 AM): yeah spies3Jessica (11:50:50 AM): I have a hard time reading chat logs spies3trina (11:50:57 AM): no problem spies3trina (11:51:02 AM): its tough i agree spies3Jessica (11:51:07 AM): I think I have like moderate ADD spies3Jessica (11:51:12 AM): my mind always wonders spies3trina (11:51:17 AM): lol you're normal dont worry spies3trina (11:51:31 AM): since you let me in a theory of yours spies3trina (11:51:36 AM): ill let you in on a secret spies3trina (11:51:49 AM): wanna keep it safe though lol cause its kinda important spies3Jessica (11:51:55 AM): ok spies3Jessica (11:52:05 AM): if you feel comfortable revealing whatever it is spies3trina (11:52:21 AM): for the most part yeah . i do feel i may get imprisoned this round but meh, its okay because.. spies3trina (11:52:34 AM): last round i was given immunity from imprisonment spies3trina (11:52:55 AM): and this round i may or may not, so if you are a spy, try to imprison me and maybe or maybe not you wasted an imprisonment on me spies3trina (11:53:15 AM): and second, someone was given the ability to Ask if someone has a citizen role or not spies3trina (11:53:23 AM): and they asked reicheru and the results came up negative spies3Jessica (11:53:31 AM): ? spies3trina (11:53:32 AM): so reicheru is etiehr a spy or a normal citizen spies3Jessica (11:53:40 AM): oh spies3Jessica (11:53:44 AM): I thought it meant spy spies3trina (11:53:50 AM): nope spies3trina (11:53:54 AM): it means she doesnt have a role spies3Jessica (11:54:06 AM): someone needs to ask anneliese spies3trina (11:54:33 AM): so there are more roles out there definitely spies3trina (11:54:39 AM): but im not attached to them unfortunately lol spies3trina (11:54:47 AM): so i hope that helps but keep it secret spies3Jessica (11:54:51 AM): I will spies3Jessica (11:55:03 AM): do you know how you got immunity? spies3trina (11:55:04 AM): cause if someone finds out people are handing immunities and abilities to Ask other out spies3trina (11:55:09 AM): it be kinda dangerous ya know spies3trina (11:55:17 AM): yeah i know how i got immunity spies3trina (11:55:36 AM): but i cant say at this moment spies3trina (11:55:45 AM): because you're not confirmed to me yet, i apologize spies3Jessica (11:55:50 AM): I understand spies3trina (11:55:55 AM): your high on the citizen lsit but your not confirmed thats all spies3Jessica (11:56:03 AM): I understand spies3trina (11:56:28 AM): i try to tell people things, under the impression they are spies but with like a double edged sword spies3trina (11:56:49 AM): in this case when i tell people i may or may not have immunity, if they turn out to be a spy, they are willing to take the risk of losing impriosnment spies3trina (11:56:55 AM): so i feel thats a smart thing to do. spies3Jessica (11:57:27 AM): yeah spies3Jessica (11:57:29 AM): like anneliese spies3trina (11:57:35 AM): right spies3Jessica (11:57:36 AM): but anneliese bluffs spies3Jessica (11:57:43 AM): I do believe you spies3Jessica (11:57:51 AM): but then again, I havent known you that long spies3trina (11:57:56 AM): true lol spies3Jessica (11:57:59 AM): you could be a bluffer like anneliese spies3trina (11:58:27 AM): i fear that this imprisonment, someone who is heavily involved in trying tofind out who are spies will be imprisoned spies3trina (11:59:08 AM): the people i worry most about imprisonments are jack, tenchi, me, you, shane, bebe spies3trina (11:59:21 AM): i think the others are very suspicious or dont contribute a whole lot spies3Jessica (11:59:28 AM): yeah spies3Jessica (11:59:41 AM): well, rei is active too spies3trina (11:59:52 AM): welli guess its from my point of view as well spies3trina (11:59:57 AM): i dont talk to her or see her much spies3trina (12:00:16 PM): but if we survive imprisonment, we should definitely go after brooks spies3trina (12:00:35 PM): and ill help rally support against him as much as i can though i feel he trusts me lol spies3Jessica (12:01:32 PM): Well, we definately need the imprisonment before we decide if he is still the main target spies3trina (12:01:45 PM): yeah. spies3Jessica (12:01:51 PM): but he seems so to me spies3trina (12:01:52 PM): i hope the spies pull another audrey tho hehe spies3Jessica (12:01:55 PM): haha spies3Jessica (12:01:58 PM): we can only hope spies3trina (12:02:25 PM): ok im going to go eat breakfast. ill see ya tongithf ro imprisonment if your on spies3Jessica (12:02:47 PM): seeya spies3trina signed off at 12:03:01 PM. spies3trina is offline and will receive your IMs when signing back in. --------------------------------------------------------------
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Post by Tenchi on May 20, 2007 17:04:43 GMT -5
OMG... Thank you. My vote will be to Imprison Anneliese.
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Post by Jessica on May 20, 2007 17:05:27 GMT -5
wrong thread
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Post by Tenchi on May 20, 2007 17:37:47 GMT -5
I know... sorry. Posted in the other one now.
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Post by Jessica on May 23, 2007 5:15:32 GMT -5
Okay, here is a big question that I am not sure on what you guys are thinking, Annie? imprisonment or exile?
While she could be an easy exile target, we NEED her dead at either the next imprisonment or exile. If we try and fail to exile her, we are screwed because I cant get another point for her bunker. I would much rather imprison her just to be safe.
Unless you guys are 100% sure we can get her exiled...
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Post by Tenchi on May 23, 2007 6:04:39 GMT -5
I am not 100% sure she will be Exiled. But I can work toward it. However, Trina will vote for her.
In addition, Trina opened up to me recently telling me that Shane is lying about "his additional gift" and Jack slipped up. Shane may be up for this Exile.
I will post the convo when I can.
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