Taylor - Gift Giver

[Raphael]

So people really REALLY trust me in this game and have no effing clue that I am a spy. Taylor just told me that she is the gift giver. But once again I am the only other person that she has told. So if this gets leaked out I am screwed, and this is one thing that I DO NOT want to risk AT ALL! Oh, and here is the convo.

spies3Taylor (2:15:12 PM): hey raph - really wanna talk to yo asap
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Auto Response from spies3Raphael (2:15:09 PM): one more class, than I am free to talk for the rest of the day.
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spies3Raphael (2:24:24 PM): ok, talk
spies3Taylor (2:24:58 PM): so im like 99% sure you aren't a spy
spies3Taylor (2:25:01 PM): and im like
spies3Taylor (2:25:05 PM): so tired of this ridiculousness.
spies3Taylor (2:25:09 PM): you know?
spies3Raphael (2:25:14 PM): yes I do
spies3Taylor (2:25:17 PM): and i have no idea what to do
spies3Raphael (2:25:20 PM): I am getting kind of tired of it too
spies3Taylor (2:25:23 PM): b/c people are being FLAT OUT STUPID.
spies3Raphael (2:26:03 PM): I am not sure what to do either. And I am kind of tired of how people are trying to bully others to vote a certain way.
spies3Taylor (2:26:23 PM): yeah.
spies3Taylor (2:26:28 PM): well.. agh.
spies3Taylor (2:26:59 PM): im gonna tell you something that two people know, one i think may be a mistake. but.. i am the gift giver. i gave you those extra votes.
spies3Raphael (2:27:41 PM): WOW, I knew that it had to be either you, Trina, Brooks, or Bebe because you were the only ones I was closes with at the time.
spies3Taylor (2:27:48 PM): yep.
spies3Taylor (2:27:59 PM): i was allowed to gift myself once.
spies3Raphael (2:28:00 PM): and don't worry, I won't tell anyone about you being the gift giver
spies3Taylor (2:28:06 PM): and in retrospect i think i wasted it b/c like..
spies3Taylor (2:28:13 PM): if i had given that same gift to someone in trusted
spies3Taylor (2:28:17 PM): they could've matched me and someone else
spies3Taylor (2:28:22 PM): KNOWING i was a cit
spies3Taylor (2:28:30 PM): but, whatever, hindsight is 20/20 i guess.
spies3Taylor (2:28:35 PM): anyway i just wanted to tell you that.
spies3Taylor (2:28:47 PM): b/c the more i sit and think about everyone
spies3Taylor (2:28:49 PM): and how they're acting
spies3Taylor (2:28:53 PM): the more and more i trust you
spies3Taylor (2:28:55 PM): and claire
spies3Taylor (2:28:58 PM): and the less i trust others.
spies3Raphael (2:30:01 PM): Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. I trust you the most right now followed by Miles. You two are the ones I have spoken most with. I haven't talked to Bebe much lately and I am not sure where she stands really.
spies3Taylor (2:30:11 PM): oh really?
spies3Taylor (2:30:14 PM): i havent talked much to miles
spies3Taylor (2:30:18 PM): i know a lot of people wanna get him out
spies3Taylor (2:30:20 PM): well
spies3Taylor (2:30:23 PM): thats what trina said
spies3Taylor (2:30:32 PM): as time goes by, the less and less i trust trina, to be honest. please don't tell her.
spies3Taylor (2:30:40 PM): she keeps telling me things that really make me more and more skepitcal.
spies3Raphael (2:30:47 PM): He is a really nice guy and I like him a lot. I haven't picked up on anything suspicious of him yet, and I feel like I can truely believe him.
spies3Taylor (2:31:04 PM): yeah
spies3Taylor (2:31:12 PM): according to trina annelise wants to vote miles
spies3Taylor (2:31:16 PM): and tenchi is rallying for jack
spies3Taylor (2:31:22 PM): i dont really see either of them as high enough on my radar yet
spies3Raphael (2:31:51 PM): I am not sure who is high on my radar right now. I just wish I had some solid facts to go on.
spies3Taylor (2:32:54 PM): yeh.
spies3Taylor (2:33:02 PM): i wish jess was on, i know she's up there on everyone's list
spies3Taylor (2:33:07 PM): but after talking to her for a while the other day
spies3Taylor (2:33:12 PM): she really slipped down on my "spy list"
spies3Taylor (2:33:22 PM): i think she may just be caught up and targeted, more than anything.
spies3Taylor (2:33:26 PM): i could be wrong.
spies3Taylor (2:33:39 PM): truth be told, im probably voting anneliese.
spies3Taylor (2:33:40 PM): i think that
spies3Taylor (2:33:49 PM): she has lead us down the wrong path for the entire time
spies3Taylor (2:33:58 PM): she's caused enough chaos to distract everyone
spies3Raphael (2:33:57 PM): Well her and her entire group.
spies3Taylor (2:34:01 PM): (so has trina).
spies3Taylor (2:34:14 PM): the fact that she matched with trina like... made me think they were both cits for a while
spies3Taylor (2:34:14 PM): BUT
spies3Taylor (2:34:27 PM): trina never went public with her "ability" til after i made that post about them matching...
spies3Taylor (2:34:46 PM): so... at least with anneliese... we get confirmation one way or the other about trina... without losing a possible ability from a cit.
spies3Raphael (2:34:45 PM): Wait, what was her "ability"?
spies3Taylor (2:34:52 PM): she says that
spies3Taylor (2:34:54 PM): oh wait
spies3Taylor (2:35:01 PM): let me re-read her post lol
spies3Raphael (2:35:04 PM): haha, ok
spies3Taylor (2:35:09 PM): well i forget what she said
spies3Taylor (2:35:10 PM): but
spies3Taylor (2:35:14 PM): you know what she was saying last time
spies3Taylor (2:35:21 PM): how she could negate an entire vote and change it
spies3Raphael (2:35:28 PM): oh, the do or die thing
spies3Taylor (2:35:33 PM): and if she chose to exile a spy that'd happen but if it was a cit she'd go automatically
spies3Taylor (2:35:34 PM): yeah
spies3Taylor (2:35:34 PM): well
spies3Taylor (2:35:36 PM): she tells me
spies3Taylor (2:35:36 PM): that
spies3Taylor (2:35:38 PM): its a real ability
spies3Taylor (2:35:41 PM): i think she posted that it wasnt
spies3Taylor (2:35:45 PM): she told me not to tell anyone
spies3Taylor (2:35:46 PM): but
spies3Taylor (2:35:50 PM): ehh. i dont trust her anymore.
spies3Taylor (2:35:53 PM): but i havent told anyone else that.
spies3Raphael (2:36:09 PM): Don't worry, I won't say anything to anyone if you don't want me to.
spies3Raphael (2:37:13 PM): So, not to push anything and don't feel like you have to answer, but what gifts were you able to hand out this round?
spies3Taylor (2:37:47 PM): just immunity
spies3Taylor (2:37:50 PM): only one this round
spies3Taylor (2:37:53 PM): the other rounds have been 2
spies3Raphael (2:38:11 PM): oh, ok, and that is why Brooks is safe from exile this round.
spies3Taylor (2:38:37 PM): yeah, i dont know why i chose him. i guess i didnt think it would be public and i could use him as a back up if people suspected me. but lol its public.
spies3Taylor (2:38:52 PM): i didnt tell anyone outright, i wasnt going to either haha.
spies3Taylor (2:38:55 PM): but.. oh well.
spies3Raphael (2:40:02 PM): yeah, and if you have already given gifts to people and everyone has already had one, than do you get to re-gift, or does your power stop?
spies3Taylor (2:41:02 PM): i get to go around again
spies3Taylor (2:41:06 PM): but i have to give to everyone first.
spies3Raphael (2:42:19 PM): cool. So than does your power also end if you are exiled or imprisioned, or can it be passed on? Sorry for all the questions, I just haven't ever really talked to someone with an ability before and I am just really curious.
spies3Taylor (2:42:41 PM): haha
spies3Taylor (2:42:45 PM): i think it ends
spies3Taylor (2:42:49 PM): it doesnt specify
spies3Taylor (2:42:52 PM): so probably it stops
spies3Raphael (2:43:40 PM): ok, well I know now that I have even more of a reason to stick up for you if your name ever comes up for exile. I don't think it will, but you just never know with these people. THEY ARE CRAZY!
spies3Taylor (2:45:30 PM): I KNOW.
spies3Taylor (2:45:33 PM): its absurd.
spies3Raphael (2:45:57 PM): And if we exile another citizen tonight, things will only get more crazy.
spies3Taylor (2:46:15 PM): though the way im leaning, my name could quite easily come up very shortly. especially if i go for anneliese. lets say anneliese goes... and trina is a short fuse as it is... she'll go full force and my match/mismatch will come into question.
spies3Raphael (2:47:04 PM): this is very true. But you never said if they were matched as spies or citizens. So if one is exiled and is a citizen, than the other has to be a citizen as well.
spies3Taylor (2:47:49 PM): yes
spies3Taylor (2:47:54 PM): i dont know if they are both spies or citizens
spies3Taylor (2:47:56 PM): just that they matched

[Tenchi]

HOLY COW... to imprison or not to imprison... Hmm...

[Jessica]

We need to imprison Trina next. If she blows up (it will probably be on me) and she will be confirmed. If she doesn't she probably will blow up on me next time.

[Raphael]

I agree, I think that we should keep Taylor around for another round or so. But remember that Miles has the Inheritor role.

[Jessica]

But Miles is in my power. I told him about anneliese's plot to exile him so he is in my debt.
He could do or die the wrong way.

[Tenchi]

THE SECRET WEAPON OF JESSICA and why Miles is under her spell

spies3Jessica: haha, Miles says he's more suspicious of anneliese
spies3Jessica:
spies3Jessica: one for me
spies3Tenchi: BAH
spies3Tenchi: You seduced him!
spies3Jessica: :pspies3Jessica: with another hot tub handjob
spies3Jessica: hmm, I wonder if that would work for bruce
spies3Tenchi: OMG... ><
spies3Jessica: or matthew
spies3Tenchi: Damn...
spies3Jessica: oooh jordan
spies3Jessica: ;p
spies3Tenchi: OMG... he would FALL for it
spies3Jessica:
spies3Jessica: the advantage of having a slut for your character
spies3Tenchi: Uhuh ><

[Jessica]

Make a new thread:

Jess - The Temptress

Can change any number of male players' votes whenever she feels like it.

[Jessica]

She just told everyone in the anti-anneliese chat that she is the gift giver

[Bebe]

taylor just spilled the beans to me and jessica and miles in a chat room. bruce was there too but he already knew.


anneliese is imprisoned. miles inherits her role (if she has one). we imprison taylor. the gift giver role is out of the game permanently.

i think that's what should happen next.

[Tenchi]

We have to plan this. I am against Imprisoning Anneliese.

[Jessica]

she will be exiled

[Tenchi]

Jack is. Comon now....

[Tenchi]

Gift Giver Log:

CITIZENS

Jack - Challenge 2 Clue
Brooks - Exile 5 Immunity
Trina - Imprisonment 3 Immunity (Funny Sam didn't confirm this...)
Taylor - Mismatch
Reicheru - ?
Bruce - ?
Matthew - ?
Arthur - ?
Jordan - ?
Miles - ?

?? - Auxiliary Ability Check

SPIES

Raphael - Extra Exile 4 Votes
Tenchi - ?
Jessica - ?
Bebe - ?
Claire - ?

[Jessica]

Didn't bruce get the Auxiliary Ability Check. It was the asker thing.

[Bebe]

bruce was the ASKER. he got a gift that allowed him to ask if someone had a special power.

taylor gave the gift to JACK? well crap.

[Tenchi]

Updated Log

CITIZENS

Brooks - Exile 5 Immunity
Taylor - Mismatch
Bruce - Asker (Episode 4)
Reicheru - Asker (Episode 6)
Matthew - ?
Arthur - ?
Jordan - ?

SPIES

Raphael - Extra Exile 4 Votes
Tenchi - ?
Jessica - ?
Bebe - ?
Claire - ?

w/ Jordan out we have 2/3 chance of getting a gift.

[Claire]

she won't give one to who she thinks is a spy so that takes care of matthew and arthur so yea we should get them!

[Bebe]

i don't have anything in my confessional.

[Jessica]

I GOT THE GIFT.

It simply says that Brooks is a citizen.

I'm not sure if the gift was supposed to reveal a random citizen, investigate a random person, or investigate the person of Taylor's choice. I could lie with this to frame someone as a spy, or I could say that one of you is a citizen.

But with my head on the chopping block, I think I might want to reveal brooks as a citizen. If it was a trap from Taylor, I would pass the test. If I get exiled, it puts Brooks in line right after Bebe.

What do you all think I should do. I need quick answers because I need to be able to present this info when I sign onto AIM or post publically.

[Tenchi]

I think its a trap. Or maybe its my paranoia hitting me again.

[Raphael]

hmmm.... I am not sure. I would say just to go and say Brooks is a citizen, because then if you are exiled this round, which I doubt it, than that buys the rest of us some more time. AND we could try and focus our attention on Brooks instead of Bebe for an extra episode.

[Bebe]

i would not say anything until you talked to taylor if i were you.

[Bebe]

also i wouldn't make this public - people are looking for reasons to vote you out, jess, and if they find out that TWO people are linked to you (me and brooks) ... it will be really tempting for everyone to vote you out.

on the other hand, you could bond with brooks with this new information and pull him to vote with you instead of against you - you taylor and brooks pick out say matthew to vote for ... and we win this.

but then also we know that on jack's team, jack and brooks are confirmed citizens so tenchi might get labeled as a spy.

so it's really a tough call.

[Bebe]

wait we do have another option.

in spies 2, sam made the spies imprison betty cuz she was inactive. in exchange for the forced imprisonment, ALL ABILITIES were cancelled that round.

you could say that sam told you "You were slated to receive a gift but I had to cancel the ability because of the forced imprisonment. However, you may not receive a gift again, per the gift giver rules".

i think that could work.

here's the imprisonment where he posted he cancelled abilities:
spies2.proboards24.com/index.cgi?board=holding834&action=display&thread=1154564965


the one problem is, taylor could ask sam if it's true, and sam, continuing to be ridiculously overhelpful to the citizens this round, might tell her the truth.

[Jessica]

I think I like the idea of going towards brooks. It could work out very well. And I too am afraid it is a trap and Taylor knows it investigated Brooks, so if I try to pull something sneaky, I am a goner.

[Claire]

we need to figure out if it's a trap b/c if not then say brooks is a spy and we win

[Tenchi]

Look, I think its a trap.

If its a GOOD GIFT, it would have gone to me. I think I'm the last person with the cleanest record in this game.

If its a BAD GIFT, it would have gone to the person I might vote out this round. WHen did Jess receive the gift? After the Citizen's note.

Or maybe I'm paranoid...? But I think this reason makes things clearer

[Claire]

i tyhink someone needs to talk to taylor before jess does anything

[Tenchi]

Look, Reicheru knows Brooks is a cit. So that means Taylor knows Brooks is a cit

NO LYING. BE HONEST AND FOLLOW STRATEGY - EPISODE SEVEN.

The Spy bandwagon looks awesome, and we really hope Arthur and Matthew bites and takes the sinker. Claire, please read the convo I will post with Reicheru on the next thread. You need to do some acting

[Claire]

can't you summarize it?