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Post by Judge Sam on May 25, 2007 22:27:51 GMT -5
You hold someone's fate in your hands, and can end any single person's game this Sunday. It's a big responsibility. Who will you choose and why? Is shock value important? So far you've made selections that haven't really revealed your identities... could that change?
We'll see. Deadline is 6:00 PM CST Sunday, all Spies must cast a vote.
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Post by Tenchi on May 25, 2007 23:24:18 GMT -5
This time I believe a majority of us is going to agree a Power Imprisonment.
I would like to go Anneliese but I would like to see why OTHER citizens would like to Imprison her. I know Arthur thinks she has too much power. Brooks hates her. I don't know for the others.
On the other hand, imprisoning her serves us well because, it takes out the Builder (if it is even true). Also, it splits the current alliance that they have (Jack, Annie, Reicheru). Although, this could possibly compromise Jessica's position...
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Post by Bebe on May 25, 2007 23:57:45 GMT -5
i am going to hold off on voting till i've had a chance to reconnect with some players. besides we have plenty of time.
but if jessica destroyed anneliese's bunker, then anneliese has go to, no questions asked, cuz otherwise it reveals that one of her 5 (jack, jessica, tenchi, reicheru, trina - yes trina knew the word i saw it in a convo she gave me) is a spy for sure and we can't have that kind of witch hunt.
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Post by Tenchi on May 26, 2007 0:16:18 GMT -5
But I dunno the new word! YAYE
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Post by Bebe on May 26, 2007 0:34:38 GMT -5
well i am a visual person, i like to have visuals, so here is who is left:
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Post by Bebe on May 26, 2007 0:43:15 GMT -5
ok looking at the above image here is what i see:
6 leaderboard peeps, 6 secret mission peeps
no chance of being exiled this round: taylor, matthew, jordan, shane
self-destructive messes: anneliese, reicheru
"glue" that stays calm and/or holds groups together: jack, trina, bruce, anneliese, shane?
almost-confirmed citizens: anneliese, shane, taylor, bruce
in some aspects it seems like shane might be the best choice - practically a confirmed citizen, doesn't take away from a potential exile target, hasn't lost his head yet ... but i am also a little selfish and don't want to lose an ally? not sure what to do about this.
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Post by Tenchi on May 26, 2007 5:55:32 GMT -5
Remember, being self-destuctive and dumb are fronts these citizens are playing on us.
IMPRISON THE MOST INTELLIGENT.
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Post by Jessica on May 26, 2007 8:10:05 GMT -5
I definately agree that Anneliese needs to go. If I did break the bunker (which I am not sure on) then she will know either Tenchi or I did it and one of us will be exiled.
If I didn't break it, she will confirm me before the imprisonment takes affect, but will be gone by the time she gets her next bunker report.
I know that she has some people who are willing to vote for her, but she IS incredibly smart. She is the person I fear most intelligence-wise.
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Post by Raphael on May 26, 2007 9:02:31 GMT -5
I almost want to say Trina. She knows a lot... WAY TOO MUCH. Than if you have Anneliese coming up saying that the points don't match up and bunker is destroyed. Something a long the lines of "How can we even be sure that you aren't lieing any more? It just seems that this would be an excellent way put suspicioun on others and off of a SPY. This could all be a lie. You get people to tell you how many times they have posted the word in their confessionals, than make up some story how the points don't match up to frame others." And you could go off of that. I think we could than possible get Anneliese out at exile, but than suspicion would be thrown back on the person that says this, so I almost feel as if we may have to make a sacrifice, but than we could get two off our biggest threats gone.
However, as I stated in a different thread we could use Trina as a way to find out if Brooks is the GG as Claire suspects. We press her about exiling Brooks, if she is cool with it, and he ends up being GG she is framed, if she defends him to the max, than he is the GG. Personally I feel that the GG is Taylor, but I have her in my "Trust Line" or I am in her's. I also have Trina's Mile's and Shane's
So I just wanted to put more thoughts out there to help imprision the best person possible.
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Post by Tenchi on May 26, 2007 9:06:14 GMT -5
Trina is still under my control. She owes me after making me vote with her. She will have to go in a few episodes though... but right now my vote stays with ANNELIESE. If there is a person who will vote for BOTH me and Jessica and Bebe and Claire, it is her.
Close Second: SHANE
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Post by Jessica on May 26, 2007 9:07:54 GMT -5
I think I might actually be willing to change my vote for imprisonment to Trina here.
If Anneliese is imprisoned, it will hurt the credibility of Tenchi's revolt, as well as take away a target before I am to be exiled.
As long as we can be sure that Anneliese will be exiled if we don't imprison her, I am up for taking out Trina instead.
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Post by Raphael on May 26, 2007 9:08:33 GMT -5
Tenchi, GREAT JOB with the letter, and can we get rid of Matthew soon at an exile or something because he is really getting annoying and I just want him GONE! He is just rubbing me the wrong way, thats all.
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Post by Jessica on May 26, 2007 9:08:42 GMT -5
Ack, disregard my post, I haven't read into it enough.
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Post by Jessica on May 26, 2007 9:10:17 GMT -5
I am liking the idea of Shane. He will be the hardest to malign since he is more confirmed than anyone else. And taking out shane will leave anneliese around to be exiled.
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Post by Tenchi on May 26, 2007 9:22:00 GMT -5
Jessica. Still, note the builder business. Of course we can tell them that the builder can be manipulated by Jack. MAKE SURE that you will have no problems with Annie later on. I'm actually worried that if she stays, you or me will go next Exile.
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Post by Jessica on May 26, 2007 9:28:33 GMT -5
That is why it is a risk to imprison shane. It will all depend on your success rate in swaying the other group onto anneliese.
We could go the immediate safe route and imprison anneliese, or we can go the safe route for next episode and risk this episode.
I trust tenchi's ability to sway the others, so I wouldn't mind either way.
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Post by Jessica on May 26, 2007 9:30:41 GMT -5
yet again, disregard my post. I just saw tenchi's post in the other thread. Anneliese it is.
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Post by Bebe on May 26, 2007 9:52:06 GMT -5
ok since jessica isn't sure whether she broke anneliese's bunker or not, then i will vote for anneliese.
i really wish you hadn't done that, cuz i would've liked to vote for shane or trina.
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Post by Jessica on May 26, 2007 11:24:05 GMT -5
Taking her out now won't undo any damage I did if I did break the bunker. She has already received her report on her bunker, and we are just waiting to see if it was broken or not. It shouldn't affect the decision of whether or not we need to take her out.
The only reason I am for taking her out is because Tenchi doesn't think he will be able to get anneliese exiled. If he was able to, I would be all for letting Anneliese survive and taking out shane instead.
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Post by Tenchi on May 26, 2007 18:29:58 GMT -5
To reiterate, I cannot get the votes of Bebe and Trina if I gun for Anneliese in Exile.
The Bunker destroyed would only make the plan sweeter.
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Post by Bebe on May 26, 2007 19:45:04 GMT -5
do we really have to gun for anneliese tho?
think about it - if we keep all 5 (jessica, shane, jack, reicheru, anneliese) in tact, doesn't it make everyone else more pissed that there's this block alliance that they are excluded from? so doesn't it make it easier to vote out one of those 5?
if the bunker bunch target one of us 5 tho we may be in for some trouble. only jessica knows if they'll go for me and tenchi or not ...
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Post by Jessica on May 26, 2007 20:21:23 GMT -5
I am starting to think that we may need to keep anneliese around or I could very likely go next.
The best choices for exile if you go by the bunker bunch are Me, Arthur, Bruce
The best choices in case of a revolt are pretty much anyone: Annie, Jack, rei, Me
And the best choice if they decide to look at the jakub vote is: Me, Rei, Miles
I am a prime suspect in almost any catagory of suspicion. Keeping Anneliese around will both strengthen my voting block and give another suspect that could be picked before me.
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Post by Jessica on May 26, 2007 20:23:42 GMT -5
Almost forgot, I wanna change my vote to Shane
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Post by Tenchi on May 26, 2007 21:15:46 GMT -5
After reading the posts: I change my vote to SHANE
This is fun because:
Annie is SURE one of you is a spy. Annie doesn't get imprisoned. lol
Also, Shane going could also mean a cover for Jack. Or does it?
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Post by Tenchi on May 26, 2007 22:05:05 GMT -5
Imprison Shane:
+ Keeps Annie, Annie goes off in a wild goose hunt + Builder is still in play. + Jack Imprisons his ally, since imprisonments are meant to throw us off + Shane is the also one of the more logical people who wants me and Jessica out.
Imprison Anneliese + Keeps Shane, after Jack is Exiled, Shane will look for new allies + Builder is gone, goose hunt may be ignored since everybody is in denial that one of them is a spy + Jack Imprisons Annie to save his ass, if the bunker is destroyed thing comes out + Jack defended Tenchi becuase he needed a puppet.
I'm still thinking which may be better... thoughts?
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Post by Jessica on May 27, 2007 6:39:28 GMT -5
Like I said before Tenchi, I trust your ability to sway votes onto Jack. If you think you can take jack out if we imprison Anneliese, I will be all for it. I just wasn't sure on your status report of how the mutiny was going. And seeing more of you points you just posted I am even more confident that you will be able to exile jack.
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Post by Raphael on May 27, 2007 10:22:06 GMT -5
I honestly wouldn't mind imprisioning Shane either. I have had a conversation with him and he flat out told me that he didn't think that I was a spy. So if for some reason people think that I am a spy because of his imprisionment (they really shouldn't have any reason though) I could say that if I was a spy why would I imprision Shane if he believed me to be citizen? It doesn't make sence to imprision someone that believes you to be a citizen if you are a spy.
So I am on board with either Trina, Annie or Shane.
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Post by Raphael on May 27, 2007 10:23:14 GMT -5
And Tenchi, I really think that you can get that voting block together, or at least I hope you can, and I can even try to bring in Miles if you want another person. I am really beginning to feel like we can pull this off!
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Post by Jessica on May 27, 2007 10:32:06 GMT -5
I guess I'll make it official and say that my vote for imprisonment will be the same as Tenchi's vote, whatever that may be.
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Post by Raphael on May 27, 2007 10:37:16 GMT -5
Has anyone heard from Claire? And I will make my vote for what ever you guys feel is best for the group.
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