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Post by Arthur on Jun 3, 2007 13:21:03 GMT -5
Yep, Raph and Matt contributed what I expected them to.
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Post by Claire on Jun 3, 2007 13:21:57 GMT -5
yea, i'm with raphael, somebody message me sometime!
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Post by Arthur on Jun 3, 2007 13:32:09 GMT -5
Watch, after Bebe is revealed as a Citizen, Jack will come up with another detailed theory as to why I defended her, and I end up getting Exiled next.
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Post by Reicheru on Jun 3, 2007 14:18:46 GMT -5
Arthur, you weren't anywhere near the top of my suspect list, until now. I don't believe a word you or Tenchi are saying. You claim to suspect Jack, yet you haven't given us any reason to suspect him or why he should be exiled instead of Bebe. You don't seem to be interested what he has to say, which surely you would be if you suspected him that much. You don't even seem to NOTICE what he's saying.
I don't know what your agenda is, whether you want to kill Jack or save Bebe, or even if you're working with Jack to make out such a bad case that you protect him and kill Bebe instead. All I know is that I don't believe a word you're saying right now.
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Post by Arthur on Jun 3, 2007 14:21:16 GMT -5
Of course you don't, because I'm arguing with your boyfriend. You yourself said that you will squash any attempt to get rid of him. I'm leaving anyways. I look forward to reading the results later where Bebe is Exiled and is, surprise surprise, not a spy.
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Post by Reicheru on Jun 3, 2007 14:25:11 GMT -5
I don't NEED to squash any attempt to get rid of him. The only people who want to get Jack out that badly are you and Tenchi. All you are doing is convincing everyone to suspect you instead of him.
I suggest at one point that if you have any solid evidence Bebe is not a spy, you distribute it privately among a few chosen citizens. So far I've not come across it. I'm not by any means convinced Bebe is a spy, but I have given enough reasons privately as to why Jack is NOT a spy. In short, I want a third option. As yet none seems to be viable without wasting another vote.
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Post by Miles on Jun 3, 2007 15:10:36 GMT -5
It would also be nice if cheese dicks like Raphael or Matthew actually gave their opinions on something for once. You guys are fucking worthless. You're right. I hate assholes who don't get themselves caught up in senseless Burg drama. Seriously, how could they not join the ranks of yourself and spew mindless nonsense wherever they can for everyone to see? It's mindboggling why someone wouldn't do what Arthur wants them to. And since they don't post on the Burg that often, it's not likely at all that they may have some sort of opinions or open mind while communicating through IM. This is why people dislike you, Arthur. Get off your high horse, please. Did you ever think that some people just don't want everything out there for people to see? I know that I don't, but that's been sort of hard lately.... I have failed to see you ever actually post something in the Burg other than theories unsupported by any sort of evidence. Maybe when you're done with your "hunches", you can go into detail about exactly what it is that makes you suspect the people you do. I don't like posting in the Burg, myself, it's just not my style. If you really care for the opinions of the "quieter" people so much, maybe you should sign online and talk to them. You've voiced quite a few opinions on me and I've yet to have a private conversation with you, which I still find odd. |
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Post by Jack on Jun 3, 2007 16:40:12 GMT -5
Actually, if Bebe was a Citizen, I think a lot of Spies would push FOR this to go through, seeing as it would be Bebe this episode, and a strong shot at me next episode. That is enough concern for me to reconsider this motion...
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Post by Tenchi on Jun 3, 2007 17:22:48 GMT -5
LETS HAVE SOME TRANSPARENCY FOR A CHANGE. MORE TO COME LATER
Sent Episode Five.
Minna-san! (Everyone!), (Copies sent to bruce, jordan, raphael, trina, arthur) You may have observed how things are not doing well for us. That's because there has been a voting block (check your voting histories and information men (and Trina)! ) that manipulates each and every Exile. This is the pattern from what I see: 1. These people agree on themselves who to Exile. They are a small group of three/four people.  2. They spread the word, forming bandwagons, with half-baked reasoning and second hand information (most of you are victim to this, including me). 3. It reaches somebody else and somebody tells them that they are soon to be gone. 4. The person to be Exiled goes off UNDEFENDED. 5. The person to be Exiled starts off making random suspicions. (For Judy, it was Claire and Jenn; For Carrie, it was me.) 6. Of course, without much resistance, the person goes. We have to do something different. It is time for us to make the DECISIONS and the change. We have a sure three person block who want the change, and I hope another three of you would consider these things. We already have a target. If we are successful, we can get two more people from our own connections bringing our pool to 3+3+2 = 8. We can do more after that. If you are interested, we can start talking AFTER IMPRISONMENT. If I am not around anymore, then you have the names of the other four people I sent this to. At least one of them share my sentiments. Why did we chose you, because I believe (and I think others would agree) that you guys are at least TRYING to do something but just don't have much evidence. Now we have a pool of suspicions that we can work with. Again, we will talk AFTER IMPRISONMENT. We know at least one of you can be a spy, and for that I'm a sure goner. But right now, I'm willing to take that risk. I still believe the Spies are mostly in that "group" and hopefully those who will not be receiving this. Again, talking after Imprisonment. Ja mata ne (See you later) Tenchi-kun |
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Post by Tenchi on Jun 3, 2007 17:31:20 GMT -5
My case: EPISODE FIVE.spies3Tenchi: Why Jack? spies3Tenchi: Because I made two points in the Burg: spies3Tenchi: One about the Spies being organized/intelligent spies3Tenchi: Two being the spies are active spies3Tenchi: And I look at the four person voting block spies3Tenchi: Annie and Co. spies3Tenchi: And I look at the criteria: Intelligent, and Active spies3Tenchi: Jack and Jessica spies3Tenchi: Now we try trimming it down spies3Tenchi: If you propose the Exile of one or the other, who is likely to be an easier exile? spies3Tenchi: Jessica spies3Jordan: Jack of course spies3Miles: lol spies3Tenchi: Jessica lol spies3Tenchi: Look spies3Jordan: Jack spies3Jordan: lol spies3Tenchi: before this spies3Jordan: lol jack lol spies3Miles: jessica probably would be, i agree spies3Jordan: REALLY? spies3Jordan: I'm not convinced of that spies3Tenchi: Jack was more protected by Annie, Rei Shane and me spies3Tenchi: Jessica lost Jennipher spies3Tenchi: And I belive she is the most distrusted in the group spies3Tenchi: Jordan, you can try it right now spies3Tenchi: Screm I vote Jessica and look how many people would flock  spies3Tenchi: *Scream spies3Miles: lol spies3Jordan: hmmm spies3Jordan: that's true spies3Tenchi: We have tried to keep this silent for the past three days spies3Jordan: but that's because no one's REALLY playing this game except the spies spies3Tenchi: and we are working overdirve this time spies3Jordan: I try to get in and actually play and hunt and people just shut down and argue spies3Miles: gotta give props to the spies. they've owned us all so far spies3Tenchi: Thats why we have to take action spies3Jordan: it's pontless spies3Jordan: I agree spies3Tenchi: Look, if we dont start acting and doing unexpected things, we wont get far spies3Tenchi: and the spies would just manipulate every move spies3Miles: so... you're suggesting jess? spies3Tenchi: This is the only time, since Episode one that I really pushed for somebody spies3Miles: because she just IMed me saying she wanted to vote for anneliese. spies3Tenchi: Jack first, then ... spies3Tenchi: holy cow spies3Tenchi: really/ spies3Tenchi: ? spies3Miles: yes spies3Tenchi: I thought Trina threatened her lol spies3Miles: spies3Jessica: I want anneliese outspies3Jessica: she has so many connections spies3Tenchi: Well Trina is not votine Annie out. spies3Miles: she said it's her, taylor, and bruce spies3Tenchi: Bruce promised me his vote. spies3Tenchi: I dont know why... spies3Tenchi: IN ANY CASE spies3Tenchi: I gave you my case. spies3Tenchi: BTW: If Jack is a spy, we know who the rest are pretty much. And they really cant do anything about it right now. spies3Miles: i agree with a lot of it |
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Post by Tenchi on Jun 3, 2007 17:35:57 GMT -5
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Post by Reicheru on Jun 3, 2007 17:44:42 GMT -5
One question: Is the person you refer to as a "target" Anneliese? If so, I must congratulate you on your efforts there. Well done!
And obviously at least one of your six does not agree with you, since Trina used her ability to STOp you exiling Anneliese.
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Post by Tenchi on Jun 3, 2007 17:51:20 GMT -5
Nope.
We did plan on taking Annie. It was initially me, Trina and Arthur. But after some negotiations, we figured Annie is less intelligent to be the spymaster, plus the fact Trina was SO SURE she was a cit. So we took the notion of Anneliese out. Regardless, we wanted somebody who was involved with the voting blocks in the Exiles to be out. That is what the first post was all about.
ALL THREE POSTS ABOVE eventually refers to Jack.
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Post by Arthur on Jun 3, 2007 18:11:43 GMT -5
It would also be nice if cheese dicks like Raphael or Matthew actually gave their opinions on something for once. You guys are fucking worthless. You're right. I hate assholes who don't get themselves caught up in senseless Burg drama. Seriously, how could they not join the ranks of yourself and spew mindless nonsense wherever they can for everyone to see? It's mindboggling why someone wouldn't do what Arthur wants them to. And since they don't post on the Burg that often, it's not likely at all that they may have some sort of opinions or open mind while communicating through IM. This is why people dislike you, Arthur. Get off your high horse, please. Did you ever think that some people just don't want everything out there for people to see? I know that I don't, but that's been sort of hard lately.... I have failed to see you ever actually post something in the Burg other than theories unsupported by any sort of evidence. Maybe when you're done with your "hunches", you can go into detail about exactly what it is that makes you suspect the people you do. I don't like posting in the Burg, myself, it's just not my style. If you really care for the opinions of the "quieter" people so much, maybe you should sign online and talk to them. You've voiced quite a few opinions on me and I've yet to have a private conversation with you, which I still find odd. Maybe if you signed on every once in a while, fuckface, we would have had a conversation. But I already know you're a spy, so there is no need to address you anymore. |
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Post by Miles on Jun 3, 2007 18:15:54 GMT -5
We've been on simultaneously several times. In fact, we are now. Not that I care to speak with you.
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Post by Judge Sam on Jun 30, 2007 19:29:40 GMT -5
This is the first (out of 2) time in the entire game that someone actually suggested to vote out a Spy. It was probably the most exciting part of the game in terms of hoping the Citizens would pull at least one victory off. Sad how the whole thing got quashed in like 24 hours...  |
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Post by Tenchi on Jul 1, 2007 1:25:46 GMT -5
The thing is, this post was non-threatening in the sense that Jack's post was incoherent and quite wordy. I think he should've kept it simple and peppered Bebe with proof as we went along. It would also have helped if Reicheru was more active in pushing Bebe rather than just suggesting Bebe and asking for everybody's opinion.
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Post by Bebe on Jul 1, 2007 2:28:37 GMT -5
The thing that partially alarmed me was how I had several people defending me - this hadn't happened at any point during the game since people were content to bandwagon.
Not that I'm complaining - I did a lot of damage control with Jack and Reicheru to get through exile 6 and saved myself from exile, but I probably couldn't have pulled it off without help from Arthur, Tenchi, Jessica, Claire, etc.
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Post by Reicheru on Jul 1, 2007 14:41:02 GMT -5
I did a lot of damage control with Jack and Reicheru to get through exile 6. Eh? I was practically throwing my hands up in despair at this point. Everything pointed towards you being a spy, to me - the fact that you'd never said you weren't the gift giver, the fact that you got the investigation, etc. I just didn't know what the hell Jack was doing and - confidence again! - I simply did not have the stones to flat-out tell him to vote you off. I was petrified in case I was wrong AGAIN. |
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Post by Tenchi on Jul 2, 2007 2:32:29 GMT -5
I agree with Rei. Nothing much needed to get done after Jack's post was hijacked by me and Jessica's argument about Jack letting another person post the word for him, along with a bunch of other proofs against Jack.
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Post by Bebe on Jul 2, 2007 17:19:32 GMT -5
OK that's not fair, Tenchi. My conversations with Jack and Arthur totally helped save my ass. You and Jessica can't take total credit for that.
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Post by Reicheru on Jul 2, 2007 19:38:43 GMT -5
I definitely think, from what Jack said to me (read it!) that Bebe helped persuade him. Back then though, I didn't know what the hell was going on, as usual.
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Post by Tenchi on Jul 4, 2007 10:45:52 GMT -5
Sorry, I take that back.
My memory is not really that sharp these days...
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