Post by Judge Sam on Jun 8, 2007 16:15:17 GMT -5
I can see why Sam forced us to imprison Jordan, but it really was quite unfair that he didn't cancel out citizen abilities in exchange like he did in Spies 2.
******That was dumb, and that only hurt the Spies more than it hurt the Citizens. It was just to make them shut up about whining.
This is in addition to
- Forcing Jordan's imprisonment only what, 2 hours before the deadline even though at that point Jordan had been inactive for almost a week. We didn't have any time to make a point like "Give us something in exchange".
*****False - He was not inactive for a week, in fact it was a very close decision. He logged on everyday but did not respond to the gift, did not vote, respond to the vote question, or communicate.
******What the fuck, I am never giving you something in exchange. This is not a discussion, hosts do not "bargain" with players, that's not how it works.
- Letting the imprisoned/exiled players have their say - collectively a group of 13 people comparing notes and working together with nothing to lose. I personally thought it was an interesting twist, but to do it at the potential last exile on top of everything else?
*****At what other point would you expect a "Last Message of Hope" to be delivered? =P
- Refusing to post that Jordan was a forced imprisonment until Raphael stepped up as Decision Maker
*****Nope. I asked all Spies opinion on the matter (as I stated I would). Raphael was online but he didn't post an opinion, so I asked him his opinion like I would ask any Spy, his opinion made a majority, so then I did it.
- Removing inactive and accusation votes so early (they weren't gone until F8 last game and this time it was at F14)
******As I have already stated to you, I removed them 2 Exiles before the end of the game. The Final 9 is 4 Exiles before the end of the game. So I removed them so late, not so early.
- Changing the exile pattern early so there wouldn't be a tie this round. He also deliberately did not inform the players ahead of time, which made the strategies we were using last round useless and obsolete this round, and resulted in unexpected scrambling this round.
******The game has 2 Double Exile Rounds. Period. When they are I don't really care. I moved the last one up because it had to be. This is not difficult to understand.
Sam is throwing every possible thing at us to make sure that a Spy goes at one point in this game. He is incredibly biased towards the Citizens because he wants more drama.
That's really dirty and yes, I am partially accusing Sam of rigging the game. He admitted himself that he changed things around that were predetermined (like the double exile) to give the citizens more help. And everything that he did above, he did in the last round.
So fuck that.
*****Yawn.
******That was dumb, and that only hurt the Spies more than it hurt the Citizens. It was just to make them shut up about whining.
This is in addition to
- Forcing Jordan's imprisonment only what, 2 hours before the deadline even though at that point Jordan had been inactive for almost a week. We didn't have any time to make a point like "Give us something in exchange".
*****False - He was not inactive for a week, in fact it was a very close decision. He logged on everyday but did not respond to the gift, did not vote, respond to the vote question, or communicate.
******What the fuck, I am never giving you something in exchange. This is not a discussion, hosts do not "bargain" with players, that's not how it works.
- Letting the imprisoned/exiled players have their say - collectively a group of 13 people comparing notes and working together with nothing to lose. I personally thought it was an interesting twist, but to do it at the potential last exile on top of everything else?
*****At what other point would you expect a "Last Message of Hope" to be delivered? =P
- Refusing to post that Jordan was a forced imprisonment until Raphael stepped up as Decision Maker
*****Nope. I asked all Spies opinion on the matter (as I stated I would). Raphael was online but he didn't post an opinion, so I asked him his opinion like I would ask any Spy, his opinion made a majority, so then I did it.
- Removing inactive and accusation votes so early (they weren't gone until F8 last game and this time it was at F14)
******As I have already stated to you, I removed them 2 Exiles before the end of the game. The Final 9 is 4 Exiles before the end of the game. So I removed them so late, not so early.
- Changing the exile pattern early so there wouldn't be a tie this round. He also deliberately did not inform the players ahead of time, which made the strategies we were using last round useless and obsolete this round, and resulted in unexpected scrambling this round.
******The game has 2 Double Exile Rounds. Period. When they are I don't really care. I moved the last one up because it had to be. This is not difficult to understand.
Sam is throwing every possible thing at us to make sure that a Spy goes at one point in this game. He is incredibly biased towards the Citizens because he wants more drama.
That's really dirty and yes, I am partially accusing Sam of rigging the game. He admitted himself that he changed things around that were predetermined (like the double exile) to give the citizens more help. And everything that he did above, he did in the last round.
So fuck that.
*****Yawn.