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Post by Tenchi on May 9, 2007 21:17:34 GMT -5
Post any notes that can form strategies in here.Great job for surviving the First Exile! I think Jennipher would go gung-ho on me now. Just keep me posted. Let's see how the second Imprisonment will go
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Post by Jessica on May 10, 2007 7:19:25 GMT -5
I do plan to take full advantage of the break day since I am really bogged down IRL, but I should be able to start working Jenn to focus more on Jack over you. Even though she is very hard to control as she follows her emotions and not logic. I'll try to make an emotional case against Jack. If Jack says anything that could potentially upset Jenn, I'll make sure she hears about it. Her short fuse could be helpful for us later in the game, but I think it would be great if we could keep her alive a bit longer until we have a majority with the people who seem to have at least a bit of trust for us.
Come to think of it, if we can get Jenn mad enough at Jack, Jack may start a bandwagon against her, then we (the group that voted for jakub, not you) will have a perfect reason to vote together as a vote to keep Jenn around. If we can keep the focus on saving Jenn and not exactly on looking for spies, we are at a huge advantage. Of course I wont say that we are focused more on saving jenn than looking for spies. Thoughts?
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Post by Tenchi on May 10, 2007 8:50:28 GMT -5
You know Jenn more than I do so I will stick to your plan.
I hope that my apology, and perhaps me shutting up against her for the next few days should help.
For my anti-spy strategy, I will try to raise suspicion on Anneliese or a semi-inactive like Carrie or Leena. I will suspect them by pointing out their "jumping on bandwagons".
Also, I will "get back" into Reicheru's group and see where I stand. I'm not exactly on the outs, but I believe that I am considered a Citizen with a pea-brain trying too hard to be a Citizen. I didn't make the wisest calls last round, but my stupidity was understandable, I hope.
But generally, I may go quiet this time. I'm really hoping that Tyler would go next Exile, that will be helpful. I'm not so sure about how much I will have to push this time, perhaps less than what I did with Jenn.
You can get focused on saving Jenn as long as you can. If everything fails for Jack and the whole Jenn thing, I will surely beg and drag myself to ask Rei and Judith to try my way of things. After all, I did have a valid reason to vote her. Its just that they have stronger suspicions against Jakub.
If Rei becomes loose on saving Jenn for this round, try to stick with Jenn by proposing another suspect. I don't have an idea as to who this suspect can be at the moment though... perhaps Shane or Carrie? Then you can drag Leena along... she trusts Jenn and Judith.
Or go for Jack, if that goes well, it would be WAY better. But we still have to find a reason to do it...
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Post by Jessica on May 10, 2007 9:01:12 GMT -5
After looking at the votes again, I think that Carrie could be an easy target. She changed her vote to join the Jakub train after it seemed like the majority was against him. Of course I cant condemn her for voting for Jakub as I did it too, but a further conversation with her may bring up something we can use.
Did you talk to Carrie about anything, or did you know her stance. I know that she voted for Jenn, but did you get a chance to talk to her about alternate suspicions?
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Post by Tenchi on May 10, 2007 9:13:43 GMT -5
IRL... OMG lol
In Real Life. (I just noticed)
Look at how Carrie seeks "wisdom" in others
spies3Tenchi: Well there were four of us remaining in that chat... plus a whole lot at the beginning. spies3Carrie: So are you 100% voting for Jenn? spies3Tenchi: YES spies3Tenchi: 100% spies3Tenchi: But it could only be me... spies3Tenchi: Im not sure, spies3Tenchi: but a lot of people know Im voting for her. spies3Carrie: Yes, you've made that perfectly clear spies3Carrie: It does sound like you've convinced some others to join you as well spies3Tenchi: lol... yeah :-( spies3Tenchi: Judith is telling me I may be wrong... spies3Carrie: Judith is wise, I was seeking her advice too spies3Tenchi: I know. spies3Tenchi: I dont know how this vote will go.
On another note, I suspected Carrie. (Its in the Burg chat)
She actually confronted me after that. She asked my why suspect her when in fact we did talk and we had good rapport. I told her that all we talked about was small talk and generic stuff. I told her that she didn't really share much information. After that, she just spilled the beans on what the chat revealed, which was actually nothing.
Jenn suspected her, so you may want to build on that.
On the other hand, you can say the same for Shane. He hasn't been really on the clear side of things. I don't get his vibe. What do you think?
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Post by Jessica on May 10, 2007 10:17:56 GMT -5
I think shane seems to be playing fairly steady. I think he may trust me a bit more than other people, but I am not sure. He did tell me that Arthur told him what he was basing his vote off of (judith signing off when he signed in). But I am not sure if Arthur told that to anyone else. I dont think I would be able to mount any suspicion on him.
I think my best bet for who I can throw suspicion on is Carrie, or get Jenn riled up against Jack. We will see how things work out with tomorrow, or possibly tonight.
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Post by Tenchi on May 11, 2007 6:20:19 GMT -5
Given to Judith and Rei: Judith-sama, Rei-chan... First and foremost, gomenosai. I think I rushed every single decision last Exile. Mind you, I did think about what to do. But I think I jumped on the first strongest reason that came to mind. I don't really work well under pressure. Hopefully I'd get better this time around. Again, gomen. The last exile, although it ended in a very sad note, it did reveal a lot of information we needed (that's why I wish we voted the idler out.). Although, I believe sticking with my initial suspicion did pay off. Two followed my vote: Jack and Carrie. Although Rei-chan, you know that I suspected Jack initially for not sharing information, I think him following me to vote Jenn was valid. He did experience the same thing in the chat and privately when he tried to talk to Jenn. Jennipher was asking questions and were not giving clear answers back. So Jack had a reason to suspect her. Carrie on the other hand just bit the whole thing. Although I told her my reasoning, I don't know if she had a reason on her own. I don't even know if she had her own suspicions! She is VERY close to Jenn on my list. I would like to note also, that there were actually two bandwagons last vote: Against Jenn and against Jakub. Note that those people who voted with you guys could have gotten wind of the "plan" and just went on with it. Check the reasons of Jessica, Leena and Miles. Did they vote because they had a good reason to suspect Jakub, or did they vote to save Jenn and their own asses? Or maybe they voted bacause they were sure that Jakub was a Citizen and Jennipher was a spy. Again, check the intentions of the people in your voting block. Shane seems to be very out of the loop. Its either he is a spy going WAY under the radar or he is a Citizen who does not have many friends. I wish Arthur would do the same. I think voting Judith-sama was a total waste. I also hope you are keeping you're eye on Jennipher. Although her conviction to do things her own way makes me feel that she is a Citizen. But I believe her vote for me did not have a reason except that I voted for her. In summary: Watch your voting block: Miles, Jessica and Leena. Keep an eye on Carrie. Show Shane some love. We can do this! Tenchi-kun PS: I hope you read the other email before this Rei-chan. You can tell Judith-sama about it if you want. (The other letter was something like a love letter. Something to keep things light.)
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Post by Tenchi on May 11, 2007 19:37:34 GMT -5
Update: Jenn and I are better... I hope. Better Update: Reichieru has this crazy plan to expose Judith and Anneliese. She plans to test them using herself. The plan is, I will come up with this wild scheme of getting Reicheru out and sell it to Judith and Anneliese. Rei's hunch is if Anneliese or Judith are spies, they would bite the plan and just vote with me. If they are not, they would do something else. Obviously, this action will save me from the Spies because I am doing the finger pointing wildly again. And this puts me in danger for exile because I am doing the finger pointing wildly AGAIN! Jenn will kill me if she finds out. Still, Rei gave me the permission to reveal the whole deal if Anneliese or Judith refuses in any way that I try to persuade them. Regardless, if Rei stabs me in the back, I want somebody to stand up for me in case that she does so. Obviously, if she does that, I will have NO allies left, except you. I just want to ask where Miles stands. If he is not too close with Judith and Rei, I may be able to make him a witness. I'd tell him that if Rei suddenly goes for me, then she's a spy. or maybe Shane... but he's not too active...
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Post by Jessica on May 11, 2007 20:05:31 GMT -5
I seem to be having a hard time catching anyone online today and I haven't gotten a chance to talk to Miles. I'll try to give you more of an update when I get in contact with more people.
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Post by Jessica on May 12, 2007 6:45:10 GMT -5
I talked to Anneliese and Tyler (single and group) last night and here is what I got from the conversations:
- Anneliese HATES Arthur. She thinks he is a total waste of space. - Tyler is 5 hours behind CST and is a student so can't be on at times to see people on weekdays, weekends are fine though. -Anneliese finished the challenge. She never said whether her time was good or bad to me, but when I mentioned my time in the group convo, she said hers was worse and that I have a shot at winning it. - I tossed a bit of suspicion on Carrie and Anneliese agreed with it. - Anneliese has vowed the next exile or two to getting out inactives.
Those were pretty much the high points of my chats.
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Post by Jessica on May 12, 2007 16:34:16 GMT -5
The best way to represent my strategy through this round is to post this chat log.
--------------------------------------------------------------- spies3Jessica (3:47:28 PM): hello spies3Carrie (3:48:30 PM): Hi, sorry but I'm finishing up the challenge right now spies3Jessica (4:01:21 PM): when you finish, IM me so we can talk spies3Carrie (4:41:50 PM): Hi, you there? spies3Jessica (4:41:36 PM): yeah spies3Jessica (4:41:44 PM): did ytou finish or give up spies3Carrie (4:43:15 PM): Unfortunately, I can't seem to get this last one spies3Jessica (4:43:24 PM): your the second person I heard of that gave up on that on spies3Jessica (4:43:34 PM): and the third person I know of who gave up spies3Jessica (4:45:25 PM): I need you to answer a question for me, but I want you to answer it quick, tell me when you are ready spies3Carrie (4:46:57 PM): shoot spies3Jessica (4:46:54 PM): Why did you vote for Jenn spies3Carrie (4:47:37 PM): Like i just told her, I didn't have any better options and Tenchi seemed pretty convinced she was a spy spies3Carrie (4:48:13 PM): I hadn't heard any of your suspicions of Jakub yet either spies3Jessica (4:48:22 PM): then why did you vote for jakub in the revote? spies3Carrie (4:49:23 PM): Well I heard plenty about Jakub during the first vote and before the revote spies3Carrie (4:49:34 PM): he didn't really say anything to help his cause either spies3Jessica (4:49:25 PM): But jakub wasn't your main suspect because you voted for jenn spies3Carrie (4:50:31 PM): Well the revote was either Jakub or Tyler, I don't see how Jenn plays into it spies3Jessica (4:51:17 PM): but if jakub was less suspicious then jenn, who you didn't find that suspicious to begin with, why would you vote an incredibly minor suspicion over a complete inactive? spies3Jessica (4:52:04 PM): wait, jenn was your main suspicion for episode 1, right? spies3Carrie (4:52:41 PM): I wasn't suspicious of Jakub because I hadn't heard anything about him at all until the Exile. But then Judith, Leena, you and others pointed out what seemed like reasonable suspicious about Jakub spies3Jessica (4:53:46 PM): but jenn was your main suspect pre revote spies3Carrie (4:54:23 PM): ....and? spies3Carrie (4:54:26 PM): what's your point? spies3Jessica (4:54:49 PM): I just dont see how you went from having a person who wasn't your main suspect end up warranting a vote over a complete inactive spies3Carrie (4:56:05 PM): "But then Judith, Leena, you and others pointed out what seemed like reasonable suspicious about Jakub" spies3Carrie (4:56:12 PM): I don't know how many times I can say it spies3Jessica (4:56:23 PM): So you based your vote entirely on what others suspect ? spies3Carrie (4:57:21 PM): Well I hadn't talked to either Jakub or Tyler, so yes, I had to rely on others for that vote spies3Jessica (4:58:07 PM): So you relied on others for your suspicions on jakub, but not on the fact that tyler was clearly more inactive than jakub? spies3Carrie (5:01:44 PM): If your point is that I was led into voting for Jakub when in reality I probably should have voted for Tyler, then you are correct spies3Carrie (5:01:46 PM): I regret the vote spies3Jessica (5:01:49 PM): obviously we all do seeing as how he was a citizen spies3Carrie (5:03:07 PM): Even at the time, I thought it was foolish to let an inactive stick around but you guys seemed convinced Jakub was a spy spies3Carrie (5:03:32 PM): Considering how are you and others pushed for Jakub, I think it's safe to say that at least 1 of you is a spy spies3Jessica (5:03:47 PM): anyway, we cant look at just the pas, who are your current suspicions? spies3Jessica (5:03:52 PM): *past spies3Carrie (5:04:37 PM): Everyone who voted for Jakub and also Tenchi spies3Jessica (5:05:14 PM): so you arent suspicious of those who opted to stay out of the fray, like shane for example spies3Carrie (5:06:08 PM): those who voted for an inactive? no spies3Jessica (5:07:09 PM): so you trust shane despite him throwing a vote away on a person who would likely not receive a vote? spies3Carrie (5:07:57 PM): It wouldn't have been a throwaway vote if Tyler had been exiled spies3Carrie (5:08:14 PM): It does the citizens no good to have inactives spies3Jessica (5:08:07 PM): I mean pre-revote spies3Carrie (5:09:02 PM): you mean his vote for Jack? spies3Jessica (5:08:49 PM): yeah spies3Carrie (5:09:50 PM): I asked Shane about it, he said Jack gave him a bad vibe. And shane hasn't been on much to talk to others so that's all he had to go on. spies3Jessica (5:10:18 PM): so you say shane hasn't been on much (inactive) yet you endorse removing inactives, but still trust shane? spies3Carrie (5:11:39 PM): Shane is hardly a true inactive, he cast his vote and was present for the Exile chat spies3Jessica (5:11:41 PM): you just said he hasn't been online to talk to others spies3Carrie (5:12:36 PM): He was on earlier today spies3Carrie (5:13:28 PM): Anyway, you've been hitting me pretty hard with these questions, but who do you suspect? spies3Jessica (5:13:20 PM): to be quite honest, you spies3Jessica (5:13:46 PM): you seem to hop onto any bandwagon you can spies3Jessica (5:14:10 PM): tenchi/jack push for jenn, you side with them. The majority voted for jakub, you side with them. spies3Jessica (5:14:36 PM): also, people I talk to say that you agree with any of their suspicions spies3Carrie (5:15:40 PM): I agree with you up until that last part spies3Carrie (5:16:12 PM): And of course, I don't agree with your suspicion of me spies3Jessica (5:16:46 PM): Are you saying my sources are lying? spies3Jessica (5:16:59 PM): about you agreeing with whatever suspicions they say spies3Carrie (5:17:53 PM): I agreed with Tenchi about Jenn and everyone about Jakub, that's been it spies3Carrie (5:19:09 PM): If you really want to vote out another Citizen, go right ahead spies3Jessica (5:19:51 PM): well, that cant be proved unless you are voted out and at that time it will be too late to say I wanted to vote you out based on your role spies3Jessica (5:20:15 PM): its statements like that that seem like they are justtrying to malign other players who suspect them spies3Carrie (5:21:47 PM): I wouldn't say I maligned you in any way shape or form, I'm just not happy with you suspecting me spies3Jessica (5:21:58 PM): the way it sounded, it was like you accused me of trying to get out citizens spies3Carrie (5:22:39 PM): Of course not, you have Imprisonment to do that spies3Jessica (5:22:43 PM): ok, now THAT is a maligning statement spies3Jessica (5:22:50 PM): as well as an accusation spies3Carrie (5:23:13 PM): as well as a joke spies3Jessica (5:23:08 PM): Lives are in the balance, lets not joke spies3Carrie (5:24:08 PM): Fine, no more jokes spies3Carrie (5:24:29 PM): And honestly, I don't believe you're a spy. I do believe that you're an overzealous Citizen spies3Jessica (5:25:00 PM): Unfortunately, I cannot return the compliment spies3Carrie (5:26:02 PM): Well on that unpleasant note, I have to go. spies3Jessica (5:25:52 PM): see you later spies3Carrie (5:26:15 PM): Bye --------------------------------------------------
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Post by Tenchi on May 12, 2007 19:13:00 GMT -5
OMG Got Disconnected a LOT But have lots of JUICY information!!! 1. Jenn and I are doing much better. And Jenn and Jack is doing much WORSE. 2. Carrie seems to be the new fad. 3. Jenn just sent me a chat where I got DCed. It had Reicheru, Anneliese, Jenn and Me. I will post more about this. 4. Anneliese thinks me and Reicheru are CITIZENS because of her builder ability. She notifies me that Sam said that the bunker has not been destroyed. Although s/he was not clear on how may more points we need to build the bunker. 5. Anneliese thinks she is going to go. 6. I did Rei-chan's plan against Anneliese, and its ODD Reicheru cleared Anneliese so easily. 7. A lot of people are aware of the Rei-chan and Tenchi love team. Anneliese tried to put us in our own "(chat)room". Currently, we have a strong group: Rei, me, Anneliese and Jenn(?). I will review the chat log later. More updates on that.
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Post by Tenchi on May 14, 2007 17:21:45 GMT -5
Everybody is screaming Carrie!
Im just concerned how Tyler would kill himself though...
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Post by Shane on Jun 14, 2007 21:53:39 GMT -5
Heh, I love the "Shane is inactive" stuff.
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