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Post by Bebe on May 16, 2007 22:45:56 GMT -5
trina told me tonight that she is immune from imprisonment for this round because someone gave her a "gift". she said sam designed a storyline around it and she doesn't know who the gift giver is. that is a pretty bold claim to make to someone she doesn't think is a spy so i think she is serious.
spies3Bebe: hello hello!
spies3trina: I have something to tell you adn promise you wont tell anyone ? lol
spies3Bebe: yep i promise!
spies3Bebe: i am so excited lol tell me
spies3trina: i received a gift?
spies3Bebe: a gift?
spies3trina: and im safe from imprisonment #3
spies3Bebe: oh my gosh that is terrific!!!
spies3trina: i dont know why but sam just posted it in my confessional and bam
spies3trina: im immune lol
spies3Bebe: congrats!!!!
spies3trina: was it you who gave it to me?
spies3Bebe: that is so funny what did it say?
spies3trina: lol
spies3Bebe: nope i am not the Gift Giver or whatever lol
spies3Bebe: trina has a secret admirer <3
spies3trina: it just has a storyline sorta nad just shows me getting the gift
spies3trina: and thats it
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Post by Tenchi on May 16, 2007 23:24:21 GMT -5
OMG... Trina thinks it could be me ><
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Post by Tenchi on May 16, 2007 23:50:24 GMT -5
Before we take action, let us verify that this role exists. The Gift Giver will do this again next round, so we should be watchful.
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Post by Jessica on May 17, 2007 7:13:53 GMT -5
I think it is definately a secret mission player who is the gift giver, if there is one, because
A) We never heard of any gifts being given before you all joined in.
B) Why would one of the original players give a gift to the new players, when they dont seem to be that likely for an imprisonment.
In my opinion, this solidifies the idea that we should imprison one of the secret mission players.
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Post by Bebe on May 17, 2007 11:30:50 GMT -5
jessica that is exactly what i was thinking today.
i am not sure if i picture bruce giving trina specifically a gift. they aren't tight at all - not hostile, but not close. this makes me think maybe audrey or taylor is a gift giver.
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Post by Bebe on May 18, 2007 14:51:03 GMT -5
bruce told me trina was in his top 3 of suspects (his top 3 right now are anneliese, claire, and trina). so there's no way he'd give her a gift.
he also told me last night that he and audrey planned on forming a citizens band, so if audrey was the gift giver i really think she would have given it to bruce first.
so i think the gift giver, if she/he exists, is still in the game.
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Post by Jessica on May 18, 2007 14:59:46 GMT -5
That leaves taylor, matthew, jordon, brooks. Any of them you find mind have given to her?
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Post by Bebe on May 18, 2007 15:07:51 GMT -5
jordan and sujata and matthew are not around for me to ask at all.
brooks revealed anneliese's role but did not say he had one of his own. he could be hiding it, i don't know.
i do think taylor is still a valid choice.
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Post by Bebe on May 19, 2007 21:56:36 GMT -5
anneliese is now claiming that her role has 2 parts and that the 2nd part is identical to the "gift giver".
she called it "the nurse" though.
ok whatever i doubt there are 2 of these guys running around. plus would anneliese really have 2 roles?
so i do not think anneliese is the gift giver.
she also seemed pretty clueless when i asked her if she made trina immune.
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Post by Tenchi on May 19, 2007 22:08:10 GMT -5
Maybe she can use points to give gifts? Of course, she can always play dumb and pretend to know nothing about Trina.
Annie is a wiser girl that we think she is.
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Post by Bebe on May 20, 2007 21:42:21 GMT -5
spies3trina: i know who the gift giver is
spies3trina: since last round
spies3Bebe: omg that is fantastic!!
spies3trina: and ive been setting it up so that we can catch people
spies3Bebe: wait wait wait you said you thought it was tenchi and now you think he is a spy
spies3Bebe: so not tenchi?
spies3trina: i know it isnt tenchi
spies3Bebe: oh ok
spies3Bebe: so what happened!
spies3trina: i just know who iti s, that i wont be able to tell you
spies3trina: but the gift giver can only give 2 gifts per round
spies3Bebe: oh ok i understand
spies3trina: and each round it has to be someone differnet
spies3trina: last round it was me and bruce
spies3Bebe: this round was not me
spies3Bebe: does this mean you can get one next round?
spies3trina: nope
spies3trina: this round it was raphael and taylor
guess taylor isn't our gift giver after all. and neither was audrey and neither is bruce.
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Post by Tenchi on May 20, 2007 21:47:25 GMT -5
Odd... then who protected Annie's little group?
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Post by Raphael on May 20, 2007 22:03:47 GMT -5
Could it possibly be Brooks?  I mean he is the only other one I could possible see as giving me a gift besides maybe Jenn, but I don't think that she would have that role. |
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Post by Tenchi on May 20, 2007 22:13:58 GMT -5
Raphael, please infiltrate as much as you can. I will be gone for the night.
And please be careful. Post any updates on the Strategy thread.
Thanks.
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Post by Bebe on May 20, 2007 23:58:19 GMT -5
trina made it clear that whoever the gift giver is, they listen to her, and she trusts them fully.
given those 2 criteria and who the gifts were given to, i think the gift giver is one of the following:
jack - very likely
carrie - pretty likely
jennipher - likely
matthew, jordan, brooks - not sure if they are likely but i didn't have a solid reason to eliminate them.
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Post by Tenchi on May 21, 2007 9:52:18 GMT -5
PMed to Jack Eventually, this has to come out. Work together. Jack, give Trina the benefit of the doubt for the moment and talk to her before posting in the Burg and making us kill each other again. I'm sorry but I am not sure how what to ask Trina during this moment, when she wold me of the things she got. spies3Tenchi: you do have that immunity thing right? spies3trina: im just happy ur safe, im just really really happy spies3trina: cant say  spies3Tenchi: Waaaa >< spies3trina: lol im soo sorry tenchi spies3trina: im very shady as a character iknow spies3trina: but i have to be in this game , its so hard spies3Tenchi: Fine. spies3trina: reicheru doesnt feel like theres an investigator spies3trina: yet in this game spies3trina: but i talked to you yesterday and you sort of inferred that you had that role? spies3Tenchi: Huh? spies3Tenchi: I didnt say that spies3trina: ok i guess not lol spies3Tenchi: I just wish there was a way to know who you are for sure. spies3trina: ill get the convo and show u spies3trina: what is your take on my role at the moment? spies3trina: am i citizen or a spy to ya spies3Tenchi: More of a Citizen. spies3Tenchi: But I dont know why you have to tell me of the gift stuff and suddenly deny it. spies3trina: its the fact that i hate revealing things as well spies3trina: and that i dont have total trust in anyone spies3Tenchi: Then why hint me at the first place. spies3Tenchi: Then you telling me that you trust me was all a lie? spies3trina: because i thought u gave me a hint spies3Tenchi: Huh? spies3trina: so thats what i told you mine spies3trina: it was a weird moment we had yesterday spies3trina: it was a weird discussion cuz i thought u spies3trina: were opening up and i felt i had an obligatio to open up and all this stuff spies3Tenchi: Well you didnt have to make something up! spies3trina: make what up? spies3Tenchi: Youre safe. spies3Tenchi: The gift! spies3trina: make what up? spies3trina: oh lol spies3Tenchi: Why deny it now after what you told me? spies3trina: wait i am so confused spies3Tenchi: I asked you if you had the immunity, because I was worried. And you tell me you cant say. spies3trina: urgh fine. I did have immunity
spies3trina: i was given a giftspies3trina: the way you responded yesterday when i told you spies3trina: that i got the gift of immunity form the gift giver spies3trina: made me suspicious of you spies3trina: so i wanted to backtrack my statement spies3trina: and sicne i was given the opportunity upt here when u thought i didnt get the gift spies3trina: i kinda try to back down on that issue because i didnt want anyone to realize i was given a gift spies3trina: its confusing i know spies3trina: but i apologize for lying but i cant let anyone know really that i received a gift tahts all spies3trina: so any questions now? spies3Tenchi: Fine... spies3Tenchi: I will be careful with you then. spies3trina: no problem . as long as im not a spy i dont have much to worry about spies3Tenchi: Right. |
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Post by Claire on May 24, 2007 21:37:10 GMT -5
I think the gift giver is Taylor. Trina trusts her the most! It's her
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Post by Tenchi on May 24, 2007 21:42:03 GMT -5
If I get a gift, she is the gift giver.
Otherwise, it is Miles or some other person.
Toss BRUCE into the mix.
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Post by Jessica on May 26, 2007 20:40:11 GMT -5
spies3Jessica (8:15:45 PM): Me, Arthur, Bruce, Taylor, Trina, Jack, and you were told the word
spies3Jessica (8:15:50 PM): according to anneliese
spies3Reicheru (8:16:19 PM): So Arthur or Bruce...
The way Rei was quick to dismiss taylor as suspect makes me think that Taylor told trina told anneliese told rei that Taylor was the gift giver.
Just a bit more of a slant as to why Taylor is a likely gift giver.
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Post by Tenchi on May 26, 2007 21:17:44 GMT -5
Disregard my previous post. I have cut my ties with Taylor.
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Post by Bebe on May 27, 2007 14:42:56 GMT -5
here is why i think trina is the gift giver:
- she says the gift giver is waiting to give themselves the best gift of all. in round 3 one of the gifts was immunity from imprisonment and she received this gift herself. i don't think trina would have been able to turn down an offer like that.
- trina says she has complete control over this gift giver. she's not tight with anyone except taylor. last round taylor refused to vote how trina told her to and also showed she has a mind of her own when she made an angry post in the burg. i doubt taylor would allow trina to decide who gets gifts and who doesn't.
- there's the fact that trina said she had a role at all
- all 4 gifts have gone to Secret Mission peeps. i first thought that the gift giver either had to be a Secret Mission peep themselves, or a citizen from the Leaderboard peeps who felt angry at their group (like carrie). i think a lot of people are still feeling ties to their original group, which makes option #1, that the gift giver is a Secret Mission peep, more likely.
- trina seems to be the ONLY ONE who knows the gift giver's identity. i find it odd that the gift giver would reveal himself or herself to trina and trina only. no one in this game seems to be very good at keeping secrets.
- the role description judge sam posted in the burg specifically mentions santa claus. trina then went around asking people specifically about santa (ask tenchi). this makes me think that she had the role description of the gift giver in her confessional before sam revealed it to everyone in the burg in Round 4.
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Post by Jessica on May 27, 2007 14:47:03 GMT -5
I wasn't sure between trina and taylor, but Trina's reaction to how sam used the comparison to santa claus makes me agree with her 100%.
I have seen many games where people allude to the flavor that the hosts gives their role, and trina's reaction to when sam said santa justifies it that much more.
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Post by Tenchi on May 27, 2007 18:28:46 GMT -5
HOLY SHIT... yeah the Santa Claus makes sense!
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Post by Claire on May 27, 2007 19:24:29 GMT -5
tenchi, it took you a really long time to figure that one out!
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Post by Tenchi on May 27, 2007 19:29:46 GMT -5
Claire, I'm going to dig your grave AFTER you get hit by a bus.  <3 Claire |
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Post by Claire on May 27, 2007 20:06:57 GMT -5
 Well I'll get someone to hit you with a shovel so you can fall into my grave and we can live internally together! Claire bugging Tenchi forever and EVER AND EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!... I think I get the last laugh! 
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Post by Trina on Jun 26, 2007 22:05:17 GMT -5
I'm just glad that I kept this secret the most. Not one single person really figured it out on who the Gift Giver was until Taylor revealed it. everyone was confused so at least it shows that citizens can keep secrets for a long time if need be.
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Post by Claire on Jun 27, 2007 22:00:53 GMT -5
i was pretty sure it was taylor but nooo i'm stupid/crazy and wrong!
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