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Bruce
Jun 10, 2007 8:49:03 GMT -5
Post by Claire on Jun 10, 2007 8:49:03 GMT -5
I'm trying to work on bruce to vote brooks and then we all vote him and we win! i sent him a pm explaining how i think he's a cit and blah blah blah and said that jess and bebe were spies together and they were trying to cover brooks like bebe covered jess. we only need 1 vote so i'm guessing it must be brooks since everyone else is ousted. but even if i'm not still in the group that means RAPHAEL is so he needs to try to help play them.
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Bruce
Jun 10, 2007 9:31:24 GMT -5
Post by Claire on Jun 10, 2007 9:31:24 GMT -5
sent to bruce
As you now know I was part of the group of citizens, and now they are throwing me under the bus. I know I'm a cit and now they do not think I am. I was reacting like you were so I guess that made me a spy. I know I'm not and if we both reacted the same then I do not think you are a spy either. Are you still willing to vote out Brooks or Tenchi or Arthur? There has to be a spy in the group that Reicheru made (Me, Reicheru, Taylor, Brooks, Arthur and Matthew) I know I'm a cit, taylor must be one since she is the gift giver, supposedly brooks was cleared by jessica but I think jess and bebe are spies together and they tried to cover up brooks. Arthur has worked his magic with taylor because now she doesn't suspect him but she suspects me. And Matthew is just kinda there. But why does everyone trust Reicheru?
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Bruce
Jun 10, 2007 9:31:47 GMT -5
Post by Tenchi on Jun 10, 2007 9:31:47 GMT -5
BTW: Be careful on playing both sides. We cannot afford a last minute swing to you.
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Bruce
Jun 10, 2007 10:11:47 GMT -5
Post by Tenchi on Jun 10, 2007 10:11:47 GMT -5
I read this Claire. TO emphasize, I think its dangerous to work with Tyalor AND Bruce. But it could work for us. Anyway, I see nothing wrong. Just be careful.
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Bruce
Jun 10, 2007 11:51:16 GMT -5
Post by Claire on Jun 10, 2007 11:51:16 GMT -5
from bruce:
I am VERY relieved to see someone with common sense!!! Yes, I also believe Jessica is lying about Brooks and that Bebe was in turn lying about her before. Before the Brooks thing came up I was hoping they were both citizens, but there's simply NO WAY that all three of them are. It's sad that Taylor has been totally had by Arthur, very sad... I cast my vote as Tenchi; Reicheru seems convinced and that's good enough for me, because nobody's going to listen to my top two suspects who are Brooks and Arthur. I've given up as far as trying to talk sense to people, it's just not working, but I'm willing to work with those of you who have sense. I still suspect you, but much less so now than I have in the past, and I have more reason to trust you than the others out there; there are five other citizens besides myself so I've got to start assuming some of you are clear. I trust Reicheru only because I trust Jack's judgment, and he trusted her. And I trust Taylor obviously, but she's being used like a shiny new ink pen. If support could be gained for Arthur, I'd obviously be more inclined to do that, I can't stand how someone as dumb and nondescript as him could continue to do tons of suspicious things and not be exiled. But it looks like Tenchi may be the best bet as far as actual votes go other than myself, whom almost everyone seems more than glad to get rid of I still won't be online tonight before the exile, I'm too disappointed in how easily the spies are able to mold half of the citizens' minds to their will, but I will check PM's before the votes are due, and I will show up for the live exiling. Hope to see you there, and I hope it isn't the finale.
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Bruce
Jun 10, 2007 11:54:46 GMT -5
Post by Bebe on Jun 10, 2007 11:54:46 GMT -5
so tell him to vote for arthur!
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Bruce
Jun 10, 2007 11:55:50 GMT -5
Post by Claire on Jun 10, 2007 11:55:50 GMT -5
it aint that simple b/c we'd be the 2 odd votes out and then 5 spies will beat 4 citz...duhhh!
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Bruce
Jun 10, 2007 13:08:34 GMT -5
Post by Claire on Jun 10, 2007 13:08:34 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure of Arthur. Jessica's little deal makes me doubt Brooks a bit more, because if Brooks is a spy, then Jessica is a spy, if Jessica is a spy, Bebe is a spy. It almost seems too good to be true, but I think it's pretty likely... Should we let Reicheru lead another vote? Probably not, but I don't know that we'd be able to convince people to vote Arthur. The spies jumped all over the Bruce train when it was presented, and they've all hopped onto the Tenchi train now. Obviously it won't kill them to sacrifice one spy if they can win the game anyway, but I'm worried that we'd at least see more opposition to Tenchi if he were a spy, or if anything, a steady push for me while they had the upper hand, because why would they want to drag this on another round and lose their shutout when a small push could prevent that? The fact that Arthur and company all would just as well vote Tenchi as me seems to me as indifference, meaning that Tenchi could be clear.. But from what happened last night, it's very possible that he's a spy. I mean, if Arthur, Jessica, Brooks, Bebe are all spies, there HAS to be a fifth. It's either Tenchi, you, me, Raphael, or Matthew (Or Reicheru, technically). So on the grand scheme of things, yes, I think it'd be way better to go Arthur than Tenchi because there's almost literally no chance that he's a citizen, whereas with Tenchi he's got the slight advantage in a group of five other unconfirmed. But if that's all we've got, then it's all we've got. I tried to help get us all talking and working together. I tried to help expose Arthur and the others for what they are, but I failed. Or rather, most of the citizens failed to understand it. Maybe they'd listen to you, although it seems that Arthur has conveniently discredited you, too. It's funny how Miles is suddenly discredited by Bebe after telling Jack her investigation results and then exiled. It's funny how Jack was discredited by an elaborate setup by Jessica and then exiled. It's funny how I was quickly set up for exiling by Jessica before Tenchi was then set up as well. I'm glad you see what's going on, but it's clear that the others are missing a big part of the picture of the Burg. Am I sure that Arthur is a spy? As sure as I could possibly be without literally knowing it for a fact. Is there a good chance that Tenchi is a spy? Yes, I think so. Is it good enough to risk the game on? No, I don't think so. But the citizens can't have a split vote, or we lose automatically... If it's got to be that way, then I guess it's got to be that way. The wrong people snatched control of this exile; people who are in turn controlled by the spies. I guess a tiny chance is better than no chance at all. It just is annoying knowing that we've got a GOOD chance that we're all passing up on.
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Bruce
Jun 10, 2007 15:45:08 GMT -5
Post by Claire on Jun 10, 2007 15:45:08 GMT -5
to bruce
I was thinking and this might be far fetched but I'll suggest it anyhow.
If you and I both vote Arthur that's 2 votes, we need 4 more. Tenchi needs to vote against someone other then himself so that's 3 and we need 3 more. If the spies are Arthur, Jessica, Bebe, Raphael and Tenchi and of those 5 the most influential spy would be TENCHI. So if you were a spy wouldn't you want to try to keep the most influential spy around? So I think we can also get Jessica, Bebe and Raphael IF AND ONLY IF we (or I) approach them in a way to try to manipulate them like they have done so many times to us. They know that they are losing a spy this round, but we may as well make it who we want and I think Arthur is the best choice for this exile and get Tenchi next, because lets face it if Tenchi goes this exile the "confirmed" citizen group is definitely coming after either me or you next round. And if Reicheru is not imprisoned next round then she is definetly either being manipulated by a spy or is a spy herself. If I can get those 3 to vote Arthur, will you vote him? Please let me know ASAP so I can talk to them! But I will happily vote out Tenchi, I'm just concerned about next Exile being one of us but if you think we'll be okay, I'm good with anything.
Claire
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Bruce
Jun 10, 2007 16:51:10 GMT -5
Post by Claire on Jun 10, 2007 16:51:10 GMT -5
from bruce
You've got my vote. I hope that you can convince the others to vote with you, I'd love to see the spies manipulated around a bit, for a change, I like the way you think I'm going to head out for a little while but I'll make sure I'm back (and I might even sign on AIM! but I'd only do that to get word from you, I'll ignore everyone else) about 15-20 minutes before the votes are due in case it doesn't work out.
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Bruce
Jun 10, 2007 16:57:14 GMT -5
Post by Raphael on Jun 10, 2007 16:57:14 GMT -5
This round is make or break for us. If this doesn't work out than we are screwed. But won't we be any ways? So I don't think we have anything to loose by voting Arthur. Yes it will point us out as spies, but it won't matter because the game will be over.
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