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Post by Jessica on May 7, 2007 7:24:10 GMT -5
As I lied in bed last night, I thought of an evil plan. Sam, if you are reading this, I want to get a confirmation that it isn't rule breaking. I probably wont be able to be on AIM that much today so could you respond in this thread or PM me.
Here it is.
So far I have a flirty relationship with Miles. I want to go to him and say something similar to this.
"I am a spy. The only reason I'm telling you this is because I am not just a spy. I have been given an additional role of lover. I can choose one person of the opposite gender and have them become my lover.
Whoever I chose as my lover is forms a new team with just me and him. If one of us dies, both of us die. I will stay a spy and still get to chat with the other spies about the imprisonment, but if we make it to the end of the game and have majority. (ie. the final 3 players are me you and anyone else)
I have to make my choice of lover by the time the second imprisonment takes effect.
If we are lovers I can keep the spies away from taking you out and we can use the spies to form a larger voting block to keep us alive. So, what do you think?"
From this I will be able to frame Miles or get him to come over with me for a voting block.
If he reveals all publically, I will reveal that it was a ploy to test him, and by him revealing, it shows he is a spy. If he was a citizen, he would have no reason not to believe me and wouldn't shoot himself in the foot so would reveal it publically to earn brownie points with the group.
If he plays it quietly, I can say it was just a ploy and I can fully trust him. Trust usually leads to trust, so he will probably trust me in return. Either way, if the group sees me as a player who takes initiative to set spy traps, they will want to keep me longer.
Of course I will wait for confirmation from you and the other spies (if they ever reveal themselves to me) to see if I can and should do this.
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Post by Judge Sam on May 7, 2007 12:23:13 GMT -5
hmmm... I love your constant out-of-the-box thinking. And the idea of the lovers role. Let me just tell you my thoughts on it.
Wait... so the plan would be to "confess" that you were a Spy with a Lover role. Then if he revealed it to everybody, you would say that confession was just a lie to test him. But if he didn't reveal it, you would still say that confession was a lie just to test him?
I'm not sure how either result (even if they happened as intended, which I'm not sure how that works out either) is worth the risk...
Also, from a host perspective, I would never change someone's win condition and not inform them of this. If someone came to me and asked me if they had to do something else to win, I would tell them "if I were to change someone's win condition I would tell them of it." So if he asked me if he had to get to the final three with you to win, I would say that.
I do really like how you're thinking about this and are ready to take action and that gives me an idea which I'll post soon. But it hasn't even been 24 hours since roles were announced... I'm not sure how dramatic you want to make things at the moment, I mean you haven't really gotten to know anybody plus there's a long road ahead in the next month. I do love the idea of you doing something dramatic, amazing, and successful to convince everybody you are a Citizen, but I'm not sure if this is it or the time is now. I would recommend talking with other Citizens and seeing how they play it; if they start to come up with all these wierd plots maybe you should too, however if you are the only one to come up with things like this it could stick out. That doesn't mean don't do it... maybe just not today, maybe in the next few days though. It's up to you though.
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Post by Jessica on May 7, 2007 14:55:19 GMT -5
The thing is. Since I need to make a plan that makes sense where he cant ask you [i.e, victory condition changes on night]. I have to do it quick or it wont be believable if I can choose my lover late game. I am not set on doing this yet, I still have to talk to tenchi and possible other spy [I'm guessing there are 3]
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Post by Jessica on May 8, 2007 10:23:22 GMT -5
There has been an alteration to the nefarious plan. Instead of "testing" Miles, we will "test" judy.
Since we see it is very possible that Judy is a spy in a group apart from us, I will claim spy lover to Miles, then tell judy that I am a lover who needs to pick someone to love and our fates out intertwined (one dies, both die) and I picked Miles. If Miles is imprisoned, we have all the proof we need for Judy to be ousted. Either making me a hero and seen as a citizen, or having me ousted and when I am revealed as spy, suspicion thrown on my allies (Jenn and hopefully someone else I can pull close).
As I am sure you will be pleased to know, the plan is to take affect on day 3 or 4, so I will be playing it safe and simply doing set-up until then.
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Post by Judge Sam on Jun 14, 2007 18:49:32 GMT -5
I really thought this was going to happen. This was only Day Two so I had no idea how successful the Spies were going to be and I had no idea like how Elias plays the game so I didn't know what he was going to do. I still don't understand this plan lol but I really did like the out-of-the-box thinking. For the first two days this was on the forefront of my mind and I thought it would backfire and we'd be down to one spy.
At this point the game had 14 people in it so it seemed like it was going to end in a few weeks, but I knew that 11 more people were going to enter in a week. Which meant we had a longer game ahead of us than it appeared at the time.
And with that I thought it was gonna happen then lol.
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Post by Jessica on Jun 14, 2007 18:56:21 GMT -5
It was a really whacky plan to either frame Miles, or to get Miles as a strong ally.
And also to prve myself to Jenn that I was trying to get spies. It was basically to fortify my relation with Miles and Jenn, or to oust Miles.
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Post by Arthur on Jun 14, 2007 19:03:52 GMT -5
Nefarious? Give me a break.
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Post by Tenchi on Jun 14, 2007 19:40:51 GMT -5
I was beginning to wonder where this plan went. Still it was very risky yet, very creative. Well done.
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Post by Jessica on Jun 14, 2007 21:39:38 GMT -5
Nefarious? Give me a break. Your just jealous I didn't pick you, hun. Uggh, the flirty thing really doesn't work when people know you are a guy.
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Post by Tenchi on Jun 14, 2007 22:14:49 GMT -5
Yeah, this whole thing kinda freaks me out now that I saw your picture...
My imagination is KILLING me. ><
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Post by Jessica on Jun 15, 2007 6:58:55 GMT -5
Is it really that creepy knowing that the person who hot tubbed it up with Miles, and offered BJs for puzzle pieces in challenge #2 is actually:
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Post by Miles on Jun 15, 2007 11:37:29 GMT -5
Just a little bit
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Post by Bebe on Jun 15, 2007 16:42:44 GMT -5
The weird part for me is, I see the picture, but when I read the post I still hear a female voice.
I had a lot of trouble grasping the fact that Tiffany from Spies 2 was played by a guy until I started hearing Tiffany's voice as a guy faking a ridiculously high falsetto. Then it was easy.
I haven't had a hard time dealing with Judith being played by a guy. If you read the posts and make the Judith-voice a guy pretending to be an old grannie, then it's hilarious.
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Post by Jessica on Jun 15, 2007 17:25:26 GMT -5
I should upload myself talking, or better yet, me singing.
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Post by Tenchi on Jun 15, 2007 20:37:11 GMT -5
OMG... and we didn't forget the naked pictures of Eli in case we won Episode Seven... ><
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Post by Bruce on Jun 15, 2007 21:59:47 GMT -5
The weird part for me is, I see the picture, but when I read the post I still hear a female voice. I had a lot of trouble grasping the fact that Tiffany from Spies 2 was played by a guy until I started hearing Tiffany's voice as a guy faking a ridiculously high falsetto. Then it was easy. I haven't had a hard time dealing with Judith being played by a guy. If you read the posts and make the Judith-voice a guy pretending to be an old grannie, then it's hilarious. Well at least when you heard Tiffany's voice like that you could turn it off... I'm stuck with it! Hmm, you could do a dramatic reading of the hottub scene!?!? I'm sure that'd make it more memorable for Miles ;D
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Post by Jessica on Jun 17, 2007 8:15:29 GMT -5
Great idea. I can't do it while others are in the house, so when I am alone, I will get to it.
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Post by Claire on Jun 17, 2007 19:16:43 GMT -5
you have a wooden kitty in your bedroom?
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Post by Jessica on Jun 18, 2007 13:20:32 GMT -5
Lol, thats not my bedroom.
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Post by Claire on Jun 18, 2007 13:22:23 GMT -5
that's probably a good thing, lol
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Post by Reicheru on Jun 18, 2007 18:06:20 GMT -5
I once played a "flirt" in a game. I even offered a bloke a BJ in exchange for help during a challenge. It was beyond excrutiating... *shudders*
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Post by Jessica on Jun 18, 2007 19:03:46 GMT -5
I thought it was fun to do.... But that's just me.
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Post by Tenchi on Jun 18, 2007 20:06:02 GMT -5
Gyahhhhhhhhh!!! My eyes!!! Rei-chan...
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