spies3Bebe (11:07:01 PM): hi brucie
spies3Bebe (11:07:12 PM): how are you doin
spies3Bruce (11:07:16 PM): hey there bebe, how are you on this lovely night??
spies3Bruce (11:07:19 PM): doing great myself!
spies3Bebe (11:07:21 PM): it is not lovely
spies3Bruce (11:07:27 PM): oh no, why is that?
spies3Bebe (11:07:39 PM): because it's imprisonment day and that is mildly depressing
spies3Bruce (11:08:02 PM): oh... wow. i completely forgot about that, i should i should check
spies3Bebe (11:08:27 PM): you are the star of the show
spies3Bebe (11:08:33 PM): i am not kidding
spies3Bruce (11:08:48 PM): star huh? i like the sound of that, always wanted to be a star
spies3Bruce (11:08:59 PM): unless its the tragic star of coruse
spies3Bebe (11:09:08 PM): oh well you are also a rebel tonight so we will see how you end up
spies3Bruce (11:09:42 PM): i'm completely intrigued now, just started reading and already can't wait to see what happens
spies3Bruce (11:12:20 PM): poor audrey! that certainly stinks
spies3Bebe (11:12:33 PM): i know i was really sad about that
spies3Bebe (11:12:39 PM): remember the first task we had?
spies3Bebe (11:13:07 PM): she and i promised to keep each other updated and pmed a bunch and i was like "ok this is a good ally to have in this game" because she was good at trading information
spies3Bebe (11:13:22 PM): so yes i was not a happy bebe
spies3Bebe (11:13:29 PM): what was your realationship with her?
spies3Bruce (11:14:46 PM): yeah, she and i had been talking a lot too, we had actually just agreed to start pooling information and working together and try to get a band of people together, but i guess not now
spies3Bebe (11:15:03 PM): would i have been in this band?
spies3Bruce (11:16:03 PM): yeah you were one of the few people we both agreed on that seemed like good trustworthy people, i think the others were reicheru, taylor, and then potentially tenchi and jack if we got to know them better
spies3Bebe (11:17:41 PM): i have not really gotten to know reicheru in this game but it's clear from the exile chats that she has a voice that is heard so i agree that she is important
spies3Bebe (11:18:04 PM): i go back and forth on taylor
spies3Bebe (11:18:14 PM): as a person i really really like her, she is soooo nice
spies3Bebe (11:18:42 PM): the thing that bothers me is how well-informed she is - if she's a spy she will see everything coming a mile away. but if she is a citizen, she will provide good information
spies3Bebe (11:18:55 PM): i am just a little scared to talk to her because i don't know who else will hear it - like a spy
spies3Bebe (11:19:18 PM): it is so hard not to like her
spies3Bruce (11:19:37 PM): yeah that's the one main concern i have over her too, she'd probably make a good friend that gets information on a need to know basis or something of the sort
spies3Bebe (11:21:01 PM): that sounds like a smart idea
spies3Bebe (11:21:15 PM): oh so i forgot to ask why did you think reicheru would be smart?
spies3Bruce (11:22:28 PM): well, i only had one long conversation with her, but in it she seemed to have a combination of friendliness and insight, she wasn't afraid to give me rundowns on some of the people from her original group, which was nice, it's been hard trying to figure them out
spies3Bebe (11:23:50 PM): yes there are 11 of them and each 11 have opinions on the other 10 and that is a lot of opinions and theories and that's even assuming all 11 are telling the truth which they are not because some are spies!
spies3Bebe (11:24:12 PM): uh oh brbr
spies3Bruce (11:24:20 PM): exactly! and ok
spies3Bebe (11:31:57 PM): ok back
spies3Bruce (11:32:22 PM): wb! yes, so many opinions flying in all directions
spies3Bebe (11:32:53 PM): i like that some people at least say what is on their mind, that is more helpful than anything
spies3Bebe (11:33:30 PM): like arthur is upfront
spies3Bebe (11:33:34 PM): you saw what he posted in the burg
spies3Bebe (11:33:40 PM): he just came out and said it
spies3Bruce (11:33:56 PM): yes, i like that he did that. i'm not willing to do something like that so early, so he's got guts
spies3Bebe (11:34:26 PM): yes i agree and it's there for all to see and in such simple words too
spies3Bebe (11:34:32 PM): he's like that when you talk to him
spies3Bruce (11:35:11 PM): i haven't had a chance to talk to him yet, i really hope i get to tomorrow
spies3Bebe (11:35:18 PM): he is a night owl like me
spies3Bebe (11:35:25 PM): so you may have a good chance
spies3Bruce (11:36:13 PM): oh that's perfect, i'm bound to run into him eventually then. if he's brave enough to start posting opinions he's either a really awesome citizen or a spy, but i don't think a spy would risk that either
spies3Bebe (11:37:05 PM): you know that is what keeps me thinking about this game all the time
spies3Bebe (11:37:14 PM): at lunch, before i go to bed, while i brush my teeth ...
spies3Bebe (11:37:18 PM): there are 5 spies
spies3Bebe (11:37:26 PM): each of them is going to be different
spies3Bebe (11:37:38 PM): at face value yep with arthur it seems like what you see is what you get
spies3Bebe (11:38:43 PM): but you never ever ever know - gosh i love this game
spies3Bruce (11:38:52 PM): yeah, it's so difficult to get over that... citizens are trying to seem citizeny and are trying not to seem spy-y, meanwhile spies are doing the same thing
spies3Bebe (11:40:18 PM): exactly
spies3Bebe (11:40:43 PM): ok you also said tenchi and jack
spies3Bebe (11:41:00 PM): what do you think of them?
spies3Bruce (11:41:59 PM): well, i'm about 95% i know who jack is outside of this game, and if that's true, i've played with him enough to know when he's full of it and when he's truthful, and he seemed to be truthful all the times i was talking with him, and he's smart, so having him would be a nice addition
spies3Bebe (11:42:32 PM): oooh don't tell me who he is i don't think that would be fair
spies3Bebe (11:42:53 PM): if he was a spy do you think he'd act truthful?
spies3Bebe (11:42:57 PM): like that would be his act?
spies3Bruce (11:43:01 PM): oh no of course not, i think that's against the rules anyway
spies3Bruce (11:43:37 PM): oh he'd try, but if it's him, he also tried to double cross me in 2 different games and i had his number the whole time in both, so i feel pretty confident about reading him
spies3Bebe (11:43:47 PM): well someone knows who judith is
spies3Bebe (11:43:51 PM): and got votes against her last round
spies3Bebe (11:44:06 PM): so sharing identities could be a strategy i guess but i do not want that kind of knowledge
spies3Bruce (11:44:31 PM): yeah, it's almost a cheap way to get votes, i'm not even going to accuse jack, it's not really important right now
spies3Bebe (11:44:58 PM): lol i do not think getting accusation votes against a person is a good invitation to an alliance
spies3Bebe (11:45:07 PM): well not alliance this isn't surivor
spies3Bruce (11:45:49 PM): yeah alliances in this game are crazy, you have to worry about having friends to keep you from going down, but you also have to worry about whether they're the right friends to have
spies3Bebe (11:47:31 PM): exactly it's not like survivor where lying is like "oh you have no honor" here lying is part of the game because the spies can't just stand up and say "ok vote me out i am a spy guys, i won't hurt my honor by lying"
spies3Bruce (11:48:22 PM): well, they could... i'd like it if they did! but yes, this game is all about lying unfortunately
spies3Bebe (11:48:37 PM): lol it's what makes it fun when it is not driving you crazy
spies3Bebe (11:48:43 PM): ok brucie brb again sorry!!!!
spies3Bruce (11:48:57 PM): lol that's ok
spies3Bebe (11:50:56 PM): ok back!
spies3Bebe (11:51:16 PM): brucie also if you don't feel like lying any more i welcome you to tell me you're a spy
spies3Bebe (11:51:50 PM): ... omg don't tell me you're actually considering it
spies3Bruce (11:52:16 PM): ok, i admit it, i'm the master spy! i have the special ability to... spy on people
spies3Bebe (11:52:38 PM): lol brucie you are in deep trouble now i will vote for you
spies3Bruce (11:53:34 PM): i know, just... just don't tell my fellow spies, audrey, tyler, imagine, and leena, they'll be so upset with me
spies3Bebe (11:54:07 PM): ok that was actually very clever
spies3Bruce (11:54:23 PM): yeah i started that and then i almost forgot who was gone lol
spies3Bebe (11:54:34 PM): r.i.p. audrey
spies3Bebe (11:54:40 PM): did you disagree on anyone to include?
spies3Bruce (11:55:54 PM): yes, so sad to see audrey go include in that list? i'm not sure, i cant really remember how many imprisonments there have been
spies3Bebe (11:56:27 PM): what?
spies3Bruce (11:57:26 PM): oops, think i misread your last im, i shouldn't be writing confessionals until after i'm off aim
spies3Bebe (11:58:01 PM): you can save time and both write your confessionals and talk to me here
spies3Bruce (11:58:41 PM): oh, good idea! ...dear spy diary, today we imprisoned audrey, i think we're pushing to exile bebe tomorrow... er, oh wait!
spies3Bruce (11:58:53 PM): ok i'm freaking myself out with my own spy jokes now
spies3Bebe (11:59:25 PM): lol well brucie that will not happen because i am immune so you will have to make a different spy plan!
spies3Bruce (11:59:52 PM): foiled again! we spies just have such a tough life
spies3Bebe (12:00:02 AM): lol do not expect me to feel sorry for you mister
spies3Bebe (12:00:21 AM): i almost wish i was a spy so i did not have to sweat through the next imprisonment
spies3Bruce (12:00:25 AM): i know we're really just misunderstood, everybody is out to get us
spies3Bruce (12:00:49 AM): yeah wouldn't that be nice, we're 2 of the top 3 finishers in the challenge, i imagine we'd both make nice targets
spies3Bebe (12:00:50 AM): i sweat them out anyway, it's ridiculous, considering we weren't in the game the first two rounds and this one i was immune
spies3Bebe (12:00:56 AM): oh boy bruce do not even get me started
spies3Bebe (12:01:07 AM): because i have some very strong opinions on that subject
spies3Bruce (12:01:48 AM): you too, huh? i think it's what did audrey in, and i think by giving some dumb suspicions off to everyone i suspected, i might have got the focus off of me, i was really worried about that
spies3Bebe (12:02:10 AM): well yes because i think you and i already knew audrey was a smart cookie
spies3Bebe (12:02:16 AM): the race put it up for all to see
spies3Bebe (12:02:29 AM): i remember how she taught herself to do a sudoku for our challenge
spies3Bruce (12:02:32 AM): yeah, and spies dont like smart cookies
spies3Bebe (12:02:58 AM): she was pretty darn smart and you know what?
spies3Bebe (12:03:08 AM): there is one spy who does not like me i think
spies3Bebe (12:03:20 AM): someone actually thinks i cheated on the race to win
spies3Bebe (12:03:35 AM): she thinks i am not smart enough to do it on my own so she thinks i am a spy and that i had spy buddies help me win
spies3Bruce (12:03:59 AM): wow... really? her name wouldn't happen to start with a c, a t, or an a, would it?
spies3Bebe (12:04:21 AM): no
spies3Bebe (12:04:28 AM): it starts with a j and ends in an udith
spies3Bebe (12:04:40 AM): you and I are 2/3 of the top 3 ... and she is the other 1/3
spies3Bruce (12:04:40 AM): oh, one of the ones i haven't met to get suspicious of yet
spies3Bruce (12:04:55 AM): yeah, so if she were a spy... that'd be bad for us
spies3Bebe (12:05:02 AM): yep
spies3Bebe (12:05:06 AM): but really brucie i did not cheat
spies3Bebe (12:05:34 AM): i ran the race on friday so before everyone on saturday and sunday you can ask trina
spies3Bebe (12:05:51 AM): it hurt my feelings
spies3Bruce (12:06:27 AM): yeah i completely believe that, i felt like i was taking forever and i was what, 18 minutes behind you? but i wrote my serial number down wrong and that cost me 7 minutes, so someone smart like you could definitely finish that in 30 minutes
spies3Bebe (12:06:29 AM): and that is interfering with my exile feelings right now
spies3Bebe (12:06:41 AM): yes she did it in 40
spies3Bebe (12:06:54 AM): which is not much of a difference!
spies3Bruce (12:07:32 AM): yes, i don't think you can be blamed there. it's natural tendency to want to eliminate threats to oneself, if she's going to try to go after you, she might need to be eliminated! and yes, that's only 10 minutes, not such a huge difference at all
spies3Bebe (12:08:13 AM): it makes me happy to hear you say that because after i heard she said it - she didn't even say it to my face - i wondered who else thought i was cheating
spies3Bebe (12:08:34 AM): and cheating in a game like this is huge
spies3Bebe (12:08:48 AM): like if i were to show you a screencap of my confessional where sam said i'm a citizen, what would even be the point in playing
spies3Bruce (12:09:19 AM): well that's the first i've heard of it so hopefully not many. and yeah, if anybody cheats it really ruins the entire game, so it can be a dangerous thing to accuse people of
spies3Bebe (12:09:50 AM): bruce ok i know why i ran the race fast, why did you?
spies3Bruce (12:10:54 AM): i honestly wasn't thinking because i actually like sucking it up on the first challenge of a game, but i wanted to sort of establish my credability i guess, so that people would be more willing to hear me out if i ever had a big suspicion
spies3Bebe (12:11:11 AM): ohh that is very interesting, i get it
spies3Bebe (12:11:22 AM): very smart actually
spies3Bebe (12:11:35 AM): credability
spies3Bruce (12:11:59 AM): oh why thank you it's usually only temporary, but getting an early advantage is nice
spies3Bebe (12:12:40 AM): well that also worries me because if i did not have immunity could it just have easily been me or you as audrey?
spies3Bruce (12:13:07 AM): yeah, i think it easily could have been
spies3Bruce (12:13:32 AM): that's probably the easiest imprisonment the spies will have, they get a list of who is good at challenges for free
spies3Bebe (12:13:55 AM): i wish i had thought about that, of trading short term safety for long term
spies3Bebe (12:14:34 AM): i was just so afraid that i would go, and that i would go without ever being a part of the game, that i just raced my heart out
spies3Bebe (12:14:51 AM): unlike you it wasn't very strategic
spies3Bruce (12:15:00 AM): yeah, i think that was probably a good move though, it kept you safe!
spies3Bebe (12:16:34 AM): well so far i think only one person really wants me exiled this round but even still i am glad i have immunity
spies3Bruce (12:17:12 AM): yes, and that person seems to actually be a target, too, so that potential problem might go away
spies3Bebe (12:18:09 AM): that is a good point
spies3Bebe (12:18:18 AM): do you feel like you know enough to make a good choice?
spies3Bruce (12:18:53 AM): right now? not really, honestly. i'm putting all my hope into something coming up tomorrow that at least gives me a good enough reason to vote for sombody
spies3Bebe (12:19:34 AM): so no one has tried to be a used car salesman with you and tried to sell you on an idea?
spies3Bruce (12:20:38 AM): not in so many words, yet. jessica openly talked about carrie to me, but not in the actual suspicious way of pushing for a vote for her, and anneliese seems to be interested in going for judith
spies3Bebe (12:21:00 AM): i haven't talked to jessica very much, just hi how are you stuff
spies3Bebe (12:21:10 AM): but carrie seems to be a little afraid of jessica pushing that idea
spies3Bruce (12:21:59 AM): yes, i don't blame her for that, jessica brought it up within 10 minutes of meeting me i think, she could be a subtle-type spy, but i don't know that a spy would even bring it up so soon
spies3Bebe (12:22:36 AM): lol i don't think you ever know, like oh my gosh tonight with jennipher ...
spies3Bebe (12:22:38 AM): it was crazy
spies3Bebe (12:22:44 AM): it was literally like
spies3Bebe (12:22:45 AM): hi bebe
spies3Bebe (12:22:46 AM): how are you
spies3Bebe (12:22:51 AM): do you suspect anyone?
spies3Bebe (12:22:52 AM): oh tell me who
spies3Bebe (12:23:03 AM): i was like oh hi jennipher uh it's very nice to meet you for the very first time
spies3Bruce (12:23:59 AM): haha! wow, talk about getting to the point
spies3Bebe (12:24:11 AM): i know, i was just shocked
spies3Bruce (12:24:24 AM): i haven't talked to her yet on im's, now i'm looking forward to it
spies3Bebe (12:24:48 AM): lol you are in for a treat mr. psychologist
spies3Bruce (12:25:22 AM): if she does that to me, i wonder how she'd react if my response was "hmm, actually... you!"
spies3Bebe (12:26:08 AM): i really think she would freak out
spies3Bruce (12:26:37 AM): yes, it'd be fun, unless she's a spy and freaked out by imprisoning me
spies3Bebe (12:27:27 AM): that too!
spies3Bebe (12:28:31 AM): are you going to be around for the exile tomorrow?
spies3Bruce (12:29:15 AM): i think so, i was hoping to go out tomorrow night but it doesn't look like it's going to work out on friday, so i should be around a lot
spies3Bebe (12:30:45 AM): i like how this game interferes with my social life!!!!!
spies3Bebe (12:30:56 AM): ok ok ok i will be here too
spies3Bruce (12:31:36 AM): yes, away with social lives! citizens have to make sacrifices in a time of spy invasion
spies3Bebe (12:33:01 AM): lol good attitude
spies3Bruce (12:34:04 AM): yeah, plus it's a nice excuse if you're like me and slack on social life i only go out about one weekend a month as it is
spies3Bebe (12:35:48 AM): nothin wrong with that
spies3Bruce (12:36:30 AM): nope, after seeing so many partied out patients, i backed away from that scene
spies3Bebe (12:37:20 AM): lol smart!
spies3Bebe (12:37:40 AM): sorry i am making the same mistake of also trying to do stuff in my confessionals
spies3Bebe (12:37:44 AM): lots of convos to post
spies3Bebe (12:37:54 AM): it's crazy
spies3Bruce (12:38:12 AM): oh, no problem, i feel your pain, it's so hard to remember to post everything, and wait 15 seconds between posts
spies3Bebe (12:38:47 AM): plus when your convo is too big and it makes you take out chunks
spies3Bruce (12:39:18 AM): yes! i detest posting chat room logs because of that... usually takes 3-5 posts
spies3Bebe (12:41:18 AM): hey you didn't answer my question earlier now that i remember
spies3Bruce (12:41:52 AM): oops which one?
spies3Bebe (12:42:55 AM): ok so at the very very beginning you said that i was one of the few people you both agreed on as trustworthy
spies3Bebe (12:42:57 AM): who didn't you agree on?
spies3Bebe (12:43:07 AM): you and audrey i mean
spies3Bruce (12:43:38 AM): oh right, lets see, i might have to dig that convo up and check. i know a few people we didn't think were trustworthy though, let me check though
spies3Bruce (12:44:51 AM): ok, first person we talked about was claire, mostly because of the way she reacted when you joked with her being a spy in the chat room, which isn't very much
spies3Bebe (12:45:17 AM): she is an odd one and her name is being thrown around right now
spies3Bebe (12:45:24 AM): i'm not quite sure yet how i feel about that
spies3Bruce (12:46:11 AM): yeah, me neither actually, but she's on bruce's hot three list right now because she ties in with the others we thought could be suspicious, trina and anneliese
spies3Bebe (12:46:34 AM): oh boy trina really?
spies3Bebe (12:46:52 AM): she is one of the ones i feel really really good about
spies3Bebe (12:46:56 AM): as a citizen
spies3Bebe (12:47:07 AM): she has said she thinks she comes off the wrong way sometimes though
spies3Bruce (12:47:18 AM): well i did too for the first few days, there's just a weird triangle i've seen sometimes between her, anneliese, and claire
spies3Bebe (12:47:23 AM): she even said she thinks she'll be exiled because of it
spies3Bruce (12:47:51 AM): really? i haven't heard her name coming up so far, but people seem too focused on judith and carrie i guess
spies3Bebe (12:49:14 AM): ok what is this trina anneliese claire thing?
spies3Bruce (12:52:14 AM): well it's not much, but it's all i've been able to cook up, basicly... claire draws mild suspension over the chat room thing, then in the merger night, anneliese makes a joke exit by saying she's a spy and acting like she meant to im it to trina, which i guess is just sort of weird considering they'd have met 20 minutes before the fact. then when claire made that apology post, trina was quick to im me and say how honest claire was for doing that, and how trustworthy that made her, etc. so it's just odd that they do seem to be tied in a bit, and then i've heard from a few people from the original group that anneliese was already a minor suspect
spies3Bebe (12:53:12 AM): claire imed me to say omg did you see what anneliese said
spies3Bebe (12:53:29 AM): and at the time anneliese was all like omg i was joking
spies3Bebe (12:53:33 AM): which is what you have to say, basically
spies3Bruce (12:54:16 AM): yeah, i can appreciate a few "i'm a spy" jokes (obviously!) i just thought it was sort of weird after the fact, i didn't know claire had that reaction though
spies3Bebe (12:54:30 AM): layers upon layers brucie
spies3Bruce (12:54:52 AM): i'm probably making something out of nothing, there's just so little to go on! it drives me crazy not to have some sort of theory in progress
spies3Bebe (12:56:57 AM): i know what you mean
spies3Bebe (12:57:02 AM): the hardest problem right now is not just who is a spy
spies3Bebe (12:57:10 AM): but which 5 people are working together as spies
spies3Bruce (12:57:35 AM): exactyl, 5 is a pretty big number, you'd think we'd be seeing more clues
spies3Bebe (12:59:06 AM): exactly, or hear people repeating each other's phrases or something
spies3Bebe (12:59:15 AM): like a hint as to what the spies are all gunning for
spies3Bruce (12:59:59 AM): oh yes, i love the parrot approach, whenever people discuss something and then talk with others about it, they almost always manage to repeat a few of the same key phrases
spies3Bebe (1:02:49 AM): that is exactly what i have been looking for
spies3Bruce (1:03:20 AM): me too, and it's just not happening yet