Post by Carrie on May 24, 2007 15:03:25 GMT -5
spies3Reicheru (8:11:55 PM): Quick Konichiwa.
spies3Reicheru (8:17:07 PM): Wow... you do not answer...
spies3Reicheru (8:17:15 PM): And Claire logs out as soon as she replies!
spies3Carrie (8:17:51 PM): Sorry, I just got out of the shower, brb
spies3Reicheru (8:18:09 PM): Ah ok.
spies3Carrie (8:20:25 PM): and I'm back, what's up?
spies3Reicheru (8:21:00 PM): Not much, I just think about last night's vote.
spies3Carrie (8:21:23 PM): Ugh, it's getting depressing being wrong all the time
spies3Reicheru (8:21:24 PM): It may seem odd but I am almost satisfied with it, at least after Judith (that was horrible...)
spies3Reicheru (8:21:32 PM): At least it is SOME proof that I am not always wrong,
spies3Reicheru (8:21:37 PM): since I really did not think Jenn was a spy.
spies3Carrie (8:22:24 PM): Yeah...I was all set to vote otherwise up until about 730 cst, I was given some pretty credible evidence against Jenn
spies3Reicheru (8:22:34 PM): Hai, I heard that too.
spies3Reicheru (8:22:59 PM): But I never quite believe it... Jenn's voting was too wild, she was too retentive, not social enough.
spies3Reicheru (8:23:04 PM): She just does not "feel" like a spy.
spies3Reicheru (8:23:19 PM): I am by no means convinced, and in any case nobody listens to me now anyway...
spies3Reicheru (8:23:23 PM): Not after Judith and Jakub.
spies3Carrie (8:24:56 PM): So why Bruce?
spies3Reicheru (8:25:13 PM): Because I do NOT want to be part of exiling yet another citizen...
spies3Reicheru (8:25:24 PM): And he seems the one person who is definitely not in any adnger from what I hear.
spies3Reicheru (8:25:35 PM): Although with all the abilities floating about, which nobody tells me of anyway, you cannot be sure.
spies3Reicheru (8:26:26 PM): At least I do not help to take out Jennipher.
spies3Carrie (8:26:43 PM): I understand not wanting to vote Jenn, but why vote the basically least suspicious player?
spies3Reicheru (8:26:52 PM): It is throaway vote.
spies3Reicheru (8:26:56 PM): After all, I have to vote SOMEONE.
spies3Reicheru (8:27:12 PM): I cannot afford penalty votes, especially not now, and given I've had them before... they will add up.
spies3Carrie (8:28:17 PM): It seemed like they were a lot of "throwaway" votes....Anne, you, me, Arthur, Bebe and Bruce
spies3Reicheru (8:28:34 PM): You mean spies might be avoiding voting together?
spies3Reicheru (8:28:36 PM): There is something in that.
spies3Carrie (8:29:26 PM): I doubt all 5 would, but it's a possibility that some of them wanted to distance themselves from the Jenn vote
spies3Reicheru (8:29:38 PM): That is understandable, even if they are citizens.
spies3Reicheru (8:29:46 PM): After all, I did... and I (believe it or not) am not a spy.
spies3Reicheru (8:30:02 PM): By shinto... I feel it is no use me saying that...
spies3Reicheru (8:30:24 PM): You know I try and influence the vote, just a little, yesterday exile time.
spies3Reicheru (8:30:38 PM): I go to two or three Jenn votors and say, "I do not think Jenn is a spy."
spies3Reicheru (8:30:40 PM): Nobody listens.
spies3Reicheru (8:30:47 PM): Either they do not trust me or they just do not believe me.
spies3Reicheru (8:31:02 PM): I really hate that... not that I have not deserved it....
spies3Carrie (8:31:49 PM): It's hard enough to gain people's trust, it's even more difficult when they feel that you've lied to them in the past
spies3Reicheru (8:31:56 PM): Hai, that is it.
spies3Reicheru (8:32:19 PM): But even leaving aside my suspicious "lie" - which was done SOLELY to help the citizens by the way -
spies3Reicheru (8:32:34 PM): Look at the figures. So far I have helped the spies to exile Jakub, Tyler and Judith.
spies3Reicheru (8:32:52 PM): I have practically ensured they do not need to do anything proactive or stick their heads up.
spies3Carrie (8:33:25 PM): ...is this your defense? Cuz it's having the opposite effect
spies3Reicheru (8:33:45 PM): Defence? I doubt I need a defence.
spies3Reicheru (8:34:05 PM): I think more see me as incompetent than corrupt... not that it matters.
spies3Carrie (8:34:31 PM): Oh ok, you were just explaining why people are less likely to trust you, gotcha
spies3Reicheru (8:34:52 PM): Who do you think should go tomorrow?
spies3Carrie (8:34:55 PM): You're still pretty solid in my book as far as not being a spy
spies3Reicheru (8:35:14 PM): Well despite having voted for you pretty much every opportunity, I do not think you are a spy.
spies3Reicheru (8:35:19 PM): I may have been wrong about Judith
spies3Reicheru (8:35:27 PM): but my "frame-up" theory is not dead.
spies3Reicheru (8:35:44 PM): I just do not see NOBODY defending you if you have at least one partner...
spies3Reicheru (8:36:08 PM): In any case, you do not answer my question.
spies3Reicheru (8:36:18 PM): Do you have any vote in mind for tomorrow? I could use the advice.
spies3Carrie (8:37:19 PM): I might go back to my original vote for Tenchi or one of the throwaway voters like Jordan, Bebe or even Arthur
spies3Reicheru (8:37:45 PM): I do not know... Arthur and Bebe are possibilities certainly.
spies3Reicheru (8:37:51 PM): Jordan... he's just inactive to me.
spies3Carrie (8:38:16 PM): inactive or purposely under the radar?
spies3Carrie (8:38:23 PM): Who are you most likely to vote for?
spies3Reicheru (8:38:25 PM): Well he at least VOTES.
spies3Carrie (8:38:33 PM): Well he does now
spies3Reicheru (8:38:33 PM): Honestly, I have no clue.
spies3Reicheru (8:38:40 PM): I look at my past suspects.
spies3Reicheru (8:38:44 PM): Jakub - citizen.
spies3Reicheru (8:38:54 PM): You - probably citizen, although with Tenchi under less suspicion I can't clear you definitely.
spies3Reicheru (8:39:02 PM): If Tenchi is a spy, you are a citizen, put it that way.
spies3Reicheru (8:39:16 PM): Tenchi - I'd be amazed if he is spy.
spies3Reicheru (8:39:32 PM): Judith - citizen, friend, victim of mine... and the spies...
spies3Reicheru (8:39:44 PM): Who is even left at this point?
spies3Carrie (8:39:54 PM): too many damn spies
spies3Reicheru (8:40:22 PM): Bebe, Arthur, even Jessica I could perhaps vote for...
spies3Carrie (8:40:29 PM): Do you make anything out of Trina votin Anne after Taylor claimed they both are either citizens or spies?
spies3Reicheru (8:40:45 PM): Not really... but Trina says one interesting thing to me just now.
spies3Reicheru (8:40:50 PM): She mentions Brooks.
spies3Reicheru (8:41:01 PM): Now I have no plan to vote Brooks, and frankly I think nobody else does.
spies3Reicheru (8:41:26 PM): The suspicion on him for "stirring" seems to me, and most people I think, a bit silly... spies wouldn't stir like that, they don't need to.
spies3Reicheru (8:41:47 PM): But if Trina is being TOLD Brooks, I'd like to know who's doing the talking.
spies3Carrie (8:42:04 PM): I would tend to agree, although he did get the 2nd most votes so I'm not sure he's so safe
spies3Carrie (8:42:12 PM): I thought he'd actually get more votes last night
spies3Reicheru (8:42:24 PM): Hmmmm... if you go by vote numbers, Jakub, you, Judith and Jenn are all spies.
spies3Reicheru (8:42:46 PM): Well... not the case!
spies3Carrie (8:43:20 PM): I'm not saying that cuz people voted for him that he's a spy, but you said you don't think anyone plans to vote for him, I'm not as sure
spies3Reicheru (8:43:30 PM): Actually I am fairly sure.
spies3Reicheru (8:43:45 PM): Of course many things could change, but for now I do not think he is a target.
spies3Reicheru (8:44:10 PM): Which leads to the question: if Trina is telling me what soemone has been feeding her (and she only just comes online, it is not you or Claire for certain) then who?
spies3Reicheru (8:44:18 PM): If it is her own idea - can she be genuine?
spies3Reicheru (8:44:30 PM): If you see her, ask her, it might be revealing.
spies3Carrie (8:44:45 PM): I'll definitely do that, but I have to go now
spies3Reicheru (8:44:48 PM): Hai.
spies3Reicheru (8:44:54 PM): Well nice talking to you. Good luck.
spies3Carrie (8:44:58 PM): Good talking to you, as always
spies3Carrie (8:44:59 PM): Bye
spies3Anneliese (1:37:55 PM): Hey there
spies3Carrie (1:40:01 PM): Hi Anne
spies3Anneliese (1:40:28 PM): how's it going?
spies3Carrie (1:41:45 PM): Pretty good, you?
spies3Anneliese (1:42:23 PM): About the same I guess
spies3Anneliese (1:42:31 PM): have you heard anything about tonight?
spies3Anneliese (1:42:45 PM): I have yet to talk to pretty much anyone, so I"m a little nervous lol
spies3Carrie (1:43:19 PM): the only person I've talked to at all really is Rei
spies3Carrie (1:43:27 PM): you don't have anything to worry about personally
spies3Anneliese (1:44:27 PM): really?
spies3Anneliese (1:44:34 PM): I got votes at last exile though so I'm a bit nervous
spies3Carrie (1:46:18 PM): Yeah, but Trina claims hers was just a throwaway vote so I wouldn;t be too worried
spies3Carrie (1:46:44 PM): what do you make of everything trina posted?
spies3Anneliese (1:47:36 PM): I still haven't read it
spies3Anneliese (1:47:37 PM): I guess I should now
spies3Carrie (1:49:11 PM): She's got some interesting theories on Jack/Shane/Rei but I think the most important parts of her post are about her ability and Claire/Brooks
spies3Anneliese (1:50:00 PM): Carrie, do you see a montage of spy thoughts at the top of the burg? lol
spies3Carrie (1:51:40 PM): ...yes, why?
spies3Anneliese (1:51:53 PM): do you think it could point us in the right way toward anybody?
spies3Anneliese (1:51:58 PM): I just find it very odd that it's there
spies3Carrie (1:53:47 PM): Odd? I think Sam might just be feeling sorry for us, although I'm not sure how we can use it
spies3Carrie (1:54:31 PM): We know they had a part in getting Judith exiled...but that's about it
spies3Carrie (1:54:47 PM): I don't make much of "every thing" or "tbqh"
spies3Anneliese (1:54:59 PM): I'm not talking typing strategies
spies3Anneliese (1:55:17 PM): we clearly know that one of the spies is someone who constantly tries to say we need to get a citizen tonight or something along those lines
spies3Anneliese (1:55:25 PM): and it's surprising but not that many people do that
spies3Carrie (1:56:21 PM): How do you clearly know that?
spies3Anneliese (1:57:19 PM): Because it's fact - not that many people run around saying "We HAVE to get a spy tonight guys come on let's win!"
spies3Carrie (1:57:51 PM): Yes, but how do you know it's a spy saying these things?
spies3Carrie (1:58:04 PM): the only person that comes to mind is Rei, kind of, but I trust her
spies3Anneliese (1:58:06 PM): Because it was in the spies thread excerpt...
spies3Carrie (1:58:53 PM): Ok, I see what you're looking at
spies3Carrie (1:59:42 PM): So you said not many people do it, who comes to mind?
spies3Carrie (1:59:54 PM): Off the top of my head, I can only think of Rei, but I trust her
spies3Anneliese (2:00:25 PM): Well I know some of those that I have seen do it are...
spies3Anneliese (2:00:31 PM): Jack, Tenchi, Claire...
spies3Anneliese (2:00:32 PM): Bebe
spies3Anneliese (2:00:39 PM): Matthew
spies3Carrie (2:01:25 PM): I'd agree with Tenchi, Claire and Bebe....neither Matt or Jack talk to me much
spies3Carrie (2:04:24 PM): So are you going to look at one of those 5 tonight? It might not even matter if Trina is going to use her supposed ability anyway
spies3Anneliese (2:06:25 PM): I'm really not sure
spies3Anneliese (2:06:29 PM): I don't buy Trina's ability right now
spies3Anneliese (2:06:37 PM): and I don't get why she would waste it on Shane or Jack
spies3Anneliese (2:06:40 PM): she should use it on Bebe
spies3Anneliese (2:06:43 PM): everyone suspects Bebe
spies3Anneliese (2:06:51 PM): she'll just go home if she uses it on Shane or Jack I think lol
spies3Carrie (2:08:11 PM): Yeah, I'm not so sure about using it on Shane or Jack, but I do buy it...it doesn't really help her much to make something like that up
spies3Reicheru (8:17:07 PM): Wow... you do not answer...
spies3Reicheru (8:17:15 PM): And Claire logs out as soon as she replies!
spies3Carrie (8:17:51 PM): Sorry, I just got out of the shower, brb
spies3Reicheru (8:18:09 PM): Ah ok.
spies3Carrie (8:20:25 PM): and I'm back, what's up?
spies3Reicheru (8:21:00 PM): Not much, I just think about last night's vote.
spies3Carrie (8:21:23 PM): Ugh, it's getting depressing being wrong all the time
spies3Reicheru (8:21:24 PM): It may seem odd but I am almost satisfied with it, at least after Judith (that was horrible...)
spies3Reicheru (8:21:32 PM): At least it is SOME proof that I am not always wrong,
spies3Reicheru (8:21:37 PM): since I really did not think Jenn was a spy.
spies3Carrie (8:22:24 PM): Yeah...I was all set to vote otherwise up until about 730 cst, I was given some pretty credible evidence against Jenn
spies3Reicheru (8:22:34 PM): Hai, I heard that too.
spies3Reicheru (8:22:59 PM): But I never quite believe it... Jenn's voting was too wild, she was too retentive, not social enough.
spies3Reicheru (8:23:04 PM): She just does not "feel" like a spy.
spies3Reicheru (8:23:19 PM): I am by no means convinced, and in any case nobody listens to me now anyway...
spies3Reicheru (8:23:23 PM): Not after Judith and Jakub.
spies3Carrie (8:24:56 PM): So why Bruce?
spies3Reicheru (8:25:13 PM): Because I do NOT want to be part of exiling yet another citizen...
spies3Reicheru (8:25:24 PM): And he seems the one person who is definitely not in any adnger from what I hear.
spies3Reicheru (8:25:35 PM): Although with all the abilities floating about, which nobody tells me of anyway, you cannot be sure.
spies3Reicheru (8:26:26 PM): At least I do not help to take out Jennipher.
spies3Carrie (8:26:43 PM): I understand not wanting to vote Jenn, but why vote the basically least suspicious player?
spies3Reicheru (8:26:52 PM): It is throaway vote.
spies3Reicheru (8:26:56 PM): After all, I have to vote SOMEONE.
spies3Reicheru (8:27:12 PM): I cannot afford penalty votes, especially not now, and given I've had them before... they will add up.
spies3Carrie (8:28:17 PM): It seemed like they were a lot of "throwaway" votes....Anne, you, me, Arthur, Bebe and Bruce
spies3Reicheru (8:28:34 PM): You mean spies might be avoiding voting together?
spies3Reicheru (8:28:36 PM): There is something in that.
spies3Carrie (8:29:26 PM): I doubt all 5 would, but it's a possibility that some of them wanted to distance themselves from the Jenn vote
spies3Reicheru (8:29:38 PM): That is understandable, even if they are citizens.
spies3Reicheru (8:29:46 PM): After all, I did... and I (believe it or not) am not a spy.
spies3Reicheru (8:30:02 PM): By shinto... I feel it is no use me saying that...
spies3Reicheru (8:30:24 PM): You know I try and influence the vote, just a little, yesterday exile time.
spies3Reicheru (8:30:38 PM): I go to two or three Jenn votors and say, "I do not think Jenn is a spy."
spies3Reicheru (8:30:40 PM): Nobody listens.
spies3Reicheru (8:30:47 PM): Either they do not trust me or they just do not believe me.
spies3Reicheru (8:31:02 PM): I really hate that... not that I have not deserved it....
spies3Carrie (8:31:49 PM): It's hard enough to gain people's trust, it's even more difficult when they feel that you've lied to them in the past
spies3Reicheru (8:31:56 PM): Hai, that is it.
spies3Reicheru (8:32:19 PM): But even leaving aside my suspicious "lie" - which was done SOLELY to help the citizens by the way -
spies3Reicheru (8:32:34 PM): Look at the figures. So far I have helped the spies to exile Jakub, Tyler and Judith.
spies3Reicheru (8:32:52 PM): I have practically ensured they do not need to do anything proactive or stick their heads up.
spies3Carrie (8:33:25 PM): ...is this your defense? Cuz it's having the opposite effect
spies3Reicheru (8:33:45 PM): Defence? I doubt I need a defence.
spies3Reicheru (8:34:05 PM): I think more see me as incompetent than corrupt... not that it matters.
spies3Carrie (8:34:31 PM): Oh ok, you were just explaining why people are less likely to trust you, gotcha
spies3Reicheru (8:34:52 PM): Who do you think should go tomorrow?
spies3Carrie (8:34:55 PM): You're still pretty solid in my book as far as not being a spy
spies3Reicheru (8:35:14 PM): Well despite having voted for you pretty much every opportunity, I do not think you are a spy.
spies3Reicheru (8:35:19 PM): I may have been wrong about Judith
spies3Reicheru (8:35:27 PM): but my "frame-up" theory is not dead.
spies3Reicheru (8:35:44 PM): I just do not see NOBODY defending you if you have at least one partner...
spies3Reicheru (8:36:08 PM): In any case, you do not answer my question.
spies3Reicheru (8:36:18 PM): Do you have any vote in mind for tomorrow? I could use the advice.
spies3Carrie (8:37:19 PM): I might go back to my original vote for Tenchi or one of the throwaway voters like Jordan, Bebe or even Arthur
spies3Reicheru (8:37:45 PM): I do not know... Arthur and Bebe are possibilities certainly.
spies3Reicheru (8:37:51 PM): Jordan... he's just inactive to me.
spies3Carrie (8:38:16 PM): inactive or purposely under the radar?
spies3Carrie (8:38:23 PM): Who are you most likely to vote for?
spies3Reicheru (8:38:25 PM): Well he at least VOTES.
spies3Carrie (8:38:33 PM): Well he does now
spies3Reicheru (8:38:33 PM): Honestly, I have no clue.
spies3Reicheru (8:38:40 PM): I look at my past suspects.
spies3Reicheru (8:38:44 PM): Jakub - citizen.
spies3Reicheru (8:38:54 PM): You - probably citizen, although with Tenchi under less suspicion I can't clear you definitely.
spies3Reicheru (8:39:02 PM): If Tenchi is a spy, you are a citizen, put it that way.
spies3Reicheru (8:39:16 PM): Tenchi - I'd be amazed if he is spy.
spies3Reicheru (8:39:32 PM): Judith - citizen, friend, victim of mine... and the spies...
spies3Reicheru (8:39:44 PM): Who is even left at this point?
spies3Carrie (8:39:54 PM): too many damn spies
spies3Reicheru (8:40:22 PM): Bebe, Arthur, even Jessica I could perhaps vote for...
spies3Carrie (8:40:29 PM): Do you make anything out of Trina votin Anne after Taylor claimed they both are either citizens or spies?
spies3Reicheru (8:40:45 PM): Not really... but Trina says one interesting thing to me just now.
spies3Reicheru (8:40:50 PM): She mentions Brooks.
spies3Reicheru (8:41:01 PM): Now I have no plan to vote Brooks, and frankly I think nobody else does.
spies3Reicheru (8:41:26 PM): The suspicion on him for "stirring" seems to me, and most people I think, a bit silly... spies wouldn't stir like that, they don't need to.
spies3Reicheru (8:41:47 PM): But if Trina is being TOLD Brooks, I'd like to know who's doing the talking.
spies3Carrie (8:42:04 PM): I would tend to agree, although he did get the 2nd most votes so I'm not sure he's so safe
spies3Carrie (8:42:12 PM): I thought he'd actually get more votes last night
spies3Reicheru (8:42:24 PM): Hmmmm... if you go by vote numbers, Jakub, you, Judith and Jenn are all spies.
spies3Reicheru (8:42:46 PM): Well... not the case!
spies3Carrie (8:43:20 PM): I'm not saying that cuz people voted for him that he's a spy, but you said you don't think anyone plans to vote for him, I'm not as sure
spies3Reicheru (8:43:30 PM): Actually I am fairly sure.
spies3Reicheru (8:43:45 PM): Of course many things could change, but for now I do not think he is a target.
spies3Reicheru (8:44:10 PM): Which leads to the question: if Trina is telling me what soemone has been feeding her (and she only just comes online, it is not you or Claire for certain) then who?
spies3Reicheru (8:44:18 PM): If it is her own idea - can she be genuine?
spies3Reicheru (8:44:30 PM): If you see her, ask her, it might be revealing.
spies3Carrie (8:44:45 PM): I'll definitely do that, but I have to go now
spies3Reicheru (8:44:48 PM): Hai.
spies3Reicheru (8:44:54 PM): Well nice talking to you. Good luck.
spies3Carrie (8:44:58 PM): Good talking to you, as always
spies3Carrie (8:44:59 PM): Bye
spies3Anneliese (1:37:55 PM): Hey there
spies3Carrie (1:40:01 PM): Hi Anne
spies3Anneliese (1:40:28 PM): how's it going?
spies3Carrie (1:41:45 PM): Pretty good, you?
spies3Anneliese (1:42:23 PM): About the same I guess
spies3Anneliese (1:42:31 PM): have you heard anything about tonight?
spies3Anneliese (1:42:45 PM): I have yet to talk to pretty much anyone, so I"m a little nervous lol
spies3Carrie (1:43:19 PM): the only person I've talked to at all really is Rei
spies3Carrie (1:43:27 PM): you don't have anything to worry about personally
spies3Anneliese (1:44:27 PM): really?
spies3Anneliese (1:44:34 PM): I got votes at last exile though so I'm a bit nervous
spies3Carrie (1:46:18 PM): Yeah, but Trina claims hers was just a throwaway vote so I wouldn;t be too worried
spies3Carrie (1:46:44 PM): what do you make of everything trina posted?
spies3Anneliese (1:47:36 PM): I still haven't read it
spies3Anneliese (1:47:37 PM): I guess I should now
spies3Carrie (1:49:11 PM): She's got some interesting theories on Jack/Shane/Rei but I think the most important parts of her post are about her ability and Claire/Brooks
spies3Anneliese (1:50:00 PM): Carrie, do you see a montage of spy thoughts at the top of the burg? lol
spies3Carrie (1:51:40 PM): ...yes, why?
spies3Anneliese (1:51:53 PM): do you think it could point us in the right way toward anybody?
spies3Anneliese (1:51:58 PM): I just find it very odd that it's there
spies3Carrie (1:53:47 PM): Odd? I think Sam might just be feeling sorry for us, although I'm not sure how we can use it
spies3Carrie (1:54:31 PM): We know they had a part in getting Judith exiled...but that's about it
spies3Carrie (1:54:47 PM): I don't make much of "every thing" or "tbqh"
spies3Anneliese (1:54:59 PM): I'm not talking typing strategies
spies3Anneliese (1:55:17 PM): we clearly know that one of the spies is someone who constantly tries to say we need to get a citizen tonight or something along those lines
spies3Anneliese (1:55:25 PM): and it's surprising but not that many people do that
spies3Carrie (1:56:21 PM): How do you clearly know that?
spies3Anneliese (1:57:19 PM): Because it's fact - not that many people run around saying "We HAVE to get a spy tonight guys come on let's win!"
spies3Carrie (1:57:51 PM): Yes, but how do you know it's a spy saying these things?
spies3Carrie (1:58:04 PM): the only person that comes to mind is Rei, kind of, but I trust her
spies3Anneliese (1:58:06 PM): Because it was in the spies thread excerpt...
spies3Carrie (1:58:53 PM): Ok, I see what you're looking at
spies3Carrie (1:59:42 PM): So you said not many people do it, who comes to mind?
spies3Carrie (1:59:54 PM): Off the top of my head, I can only think of Rei, but I trust her
spies3Anneliese (2:00:25 PM): Well I know some of those that I have seen do it are...
spies3Anneliese (2:00:31 PM): Jack, Tenchi, Claire...
spies3Anneliese (2:00:32 PM): Bebe
spies3Anneliese (2:00:39 PM): Matthew
spies3Carrie (2:01:25 PM): I'd agree with Tenchi, Claire and Bebe....neither Matt or Jack talk to me much
spies3Carrie (2:04:24 PM): So are you going to look at one of those 5 tonight? It might not even matter if Trina is going to use her supposed ability anyway
spies3Anneliese (2:06:25 PM): I'm really not sure
spies3Anneliese (2:06:29 PM): I don't buy Trina's ability right now
spies3Anneliese (2:06:37 PM): and I don't get why she would waste it on Shane or Jack
spies3Anneliese (2:06:40 PM): she should use it on Bebe
spies3Anneliese (2:06:43 PM): everyone suspects Bebe
spies3Anneliese (2:06:51 PM): she'll just go home if she uses it on Shane or Jack I think lol
spies3Carrie (2:08:11 PM): Yeah, I'm not so sure about using it on Shane or Jack, but I do buy it...it doesn't really help her much to make something like that up