Episode Five: Confessional

[Jack]

I'm pretty pissed. I mean, seriously. How many times can we get unlucky like this? Am I looking in the wrong place? Obviously, to some extent, I am. But am I trusting the wrong people? That is the fear that I am having. I'll save all the ranting for later. Right now, I want to post these vote counts for myself. I don't know who to trust, now, despite my confidence in my group of allies.

~~Episode One : Vote Count~~
Tyler        (5) : Tyler, Tyler, Tyler, Tyler, Tyler
Jakub        (5) : Reicheru, Judith, Jessica, Miles, Leena
Jennipher    (3) : Tenchi, Jack, Carrie
Reicheru     (2) : Reicheru, Reicheru
Carrie       (2) : Jakub, Anneliese
Judith       (1) : Arthur
Tenchi       (1) : Jennipher
Jack         (1) : Shane
Not Voting   (1) : Tyler

~~Episode One : Revote~~
Jakub        (7) : Reicheru, Judith, Jessica, Miles, Leena, Carrie, Jennipher
Tyler        (5) : Arthur, Jack, Jakub, Shane, Tenchi,
Not Voting   (2) : Tyler, Anneliese

~~Episode Two : Vote Count~~
Tyler        (12): PENALTY(X12)
Carrie       (5) : Anneliese, Judith, Jessica, Reicheru, Arthur
Judith       (3) : Carrie, Shane, PENALTY
Jack         (2) : Tenchi, Jennipher
Tenchi       (1) : Jack
Shane        (1) : Miles
Not Voting   (1) : Tyler

~~Episode Three : Vote Count~~
Judith       (15): Carrie, Miles, Raphael, Bebe, Trina, Jessica, Bruce,
Shane, Taylor, Jack, Tenchi, Anneliese, *PENALTY*, *PENALTY, *PENALTY*
Carrie       (7) : Matthew, Judith, Claire, Arthur, Reicheru, Brooks, Jennipher
Sujata       (5) : *PENALTY*, *PENALTY*, *PENALTY*, *PENALTY*, *PENALTY*
Jordan       (3) : *PENALTY*, *PENALTY*, *PENALTY*
Claire       (2) : *PENALTY*, *PENALTY*

~~Episode Four: Vote Count~~
Jennipher    (11): Raphael, Brooks, Claire, Jack, Carrie, Miles,
Shane, Tayle, Anneliese *EXTRA*, *EXTRA*
Brooks       (3) : Bruce, Jennipher, Jessica
Anneliese    (2) : Tenchi, Trina
Raphael      (1) : *PENALTY*
Carrie       (1) : Matthew
Bruce        (1) : Reicheru
Reicheru     (1) : Bebe
Bebe         (1) : Arthur
Arthur       (1) : Jordan

~~Episode 4.5: Vote Count~~
Carrie       (7) : Jack, Reicheru, Anneliese, Shane, Matthew, Jordan, Jessica
Tenchi       (4) : Raphael, *PENALTY*, *PENALTY*, *PENALTY*
Arthur       (2) : Miles, Taylor
Jack         (2) : Brooks, Trina
Brooks       (2) : Bruce, Bebe
Miles        (1) : Arthur
Bebe         (1) : Claire
Jessica      (1) : Carrie
Not Voting   (1) : Tenchi

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[Jack]

Ok, first of all, those who I am fairly certain that I can trust:

Anneliese : The reason I trust her is because of how many times she has put herself on the line. Although, ironically, she has never come anywhere close to exile. However, what really kind of tipped her over on my trust scale was when Shane came to me and said he protected Arthur, myself, Anneliese, and Reicheru. We were pretty sure Anneliese would be the target for that Imprisonment because of her claimed ability. This only gives her favor in my book, because I really doubt you'd let the Spies skip imprisonment, Sam, just like you don't let Citizens skip their voting duty without a penalty.

Other than that, Anneliese has seemed to be proactive in her hunt for spies. She's taken my suggestions to heart, and stuff like that. But what REALLY worries me is that she may be the scum playing me as she guides me in the wrong direction. She did indeed go for Judith, and she was a the culprit behind Jennipher & Carrie's demise as well. However, another point in her favor is the whole Reicheru lying thing, which caused Reicheru to be the REAL culprit behind Judith's exiling. That's quite a story to fabricate, if you ask me, along with Trina's admittance of a gift being used to disprove any role held by Reicheru.

If I'm to believe that Anneliese and Reicheru are not working together, as I was the force behind SAVING Reicheru. That Anneliese's claim that 6 points had been collected COINCIDED with the stories that Tenchi, Jessica, Tenchi, and myself told is too convenient for my believing. If I am to believe that Anneliese worked with any of them, well, I'd have to say she had guts risking my voting each and every one of them off until I found out who was lying. I was truly the force behind fixing that mistake, because of how I had forced Anneliese to get clarification on her role.

Reicheru: She is ONLY cleared based on my clearing of Anneliese. If it was not for Reicheru's posting of those words in her Confessional, I would have her exiled by now. I find it hard to believe she somehow managed to get someone else to post those words in their Confessional and not speak up about it by now, so she'd fortunately off the hook. Lying about her role was a very dangerous move, as I was about to have her exiled for it. I didn't like her playing fool of uncertainty early in the game, either. Her role in having Judith exiled is also very well noted, however, it's not enough to override the "confirmation" I now have. She seems to be on board with the "group", now, however, that's not saying much because we are basically hit and missing at this point.

Shane: Perhaps the only other person who I can say I have some confidence in, and there is only one reason for this. Someone did indeed protect us from Imprisonment, and Shane came forward and told me about this immediately after it happened, telling me that he protected Anneliese, Tenchi, Arthur, and me. Now, I was immediately suspicious, because I figured he may have been a Spy trying to mess with me. However, I posted that someone anonymous had approached me and told me that they had protected the four of us. Just today I had posted that it was indeed Shane who was responsible for this. What gives him the credibility of a Citizen is that if he was a Spy, and lying, someone would have spoken up by now because that would guarantee that Shane is lying. What kind of a fool of a Citizen would speak up if they were not responsible for our protection? They would know that at this point it would not be in our benefit. Therefore, Shane must be a Citizen, unless there is some kind of game mechanics that I have severely overlooked.

Those are the only three. The fortunate thing is that they are all three from the original Spies3 cast. Since we began with 15 players, and the other group with 11, chances are that there are 3 spies in our group and 2 in theirs. However, I've not ruled out the possibility that the opposite is true. Therefore, if we continue to target people from the original cast, we should eventually hit someone. Right now, 8 remain from our group. I know that I am not a Spy. I can say with some confidence that 3 others are not as well. That leaves 4 others who I am unsure of. With the scenario that 3 are from our group, we'd be shooting with 75% probability of hitting a spy. With the scenario that 2 are in our group, we'd be shooting with a 50% probability. I like those odds either way. There's a pretty SLIM chance that it's a 25% chance of hitting a spy, and God I pray that's not the case.

[Jack]

In response to the post you made: Good point, and point taken.

Luckily, what I'm working on now doesn't involve targeting any group. I need to color code these vote counts, green for the voters who are now confirmed Citizen due to Exiles/Imprisonments, and myself(because I know I am a citizen). This will hopefully help me spot and trends from voters earlier on.

In response to Arthur, I think the guy is lying. Seriously. His claimed role seems absurd, and I have seen absolutely NO indication from previous conversations with either him or anyone else that what he claims to be able to do has been done at all. He's very likely my target for this Exile as a result, especially considering he's coming after the "usual suspects." This is only emphasized more by his attempt to draw out power roles earlier in the game. Yeah, I can see the usefulness for Citizens to know of said roles, but I can also see the damage it'd do if it fell in the hands of Spies. He also fits in perfectly with my theory of the subtle Spies, which is what I've been going after ever since Judith was exiled.

[Jack]

Sorry, Sam, I know my Confessional is usually pretty dull, so I'm trying to juice it up for you. I tend to keep mental notes & files of different things, so I normally don't post here. However, I'm trying to lay low until after Imprisonment, and I think best as I'm typing in response to someone else. So I'm going to be using my Confessional for that purpose this time. I'll try to keep that up in the future as well. :-)

First of all, I want to see if I can get that color coding to work here on the forums. I did it in Microsoft Word, but I don't know that taking a screenshot would be the wisest thing to do. It took me a while, but I finally figured out how to line text up using fixed-width fonts on these forums(I am used to using code tags on PHPBB boards). The pre tags seem to work, but also looks like it has some issues with the BB code. We'll see...

Below are vote counts for MY guidance. Obviously, once I post these publicly, I will not include my name in green. Green represents anyone who I am 100% sure is a Citizen. Shane is 99%, so he isn't green. :-)

~~Episode One : Vote Count~~
Tyler        (5) : Tyler, Tyler, Tyler, Tyler, Tyler
Jakub        (5) : Reicheru, Judith, Leena

[/b], Jessica, Miles
Jennipher (3) : Jack, Carrie, Tenchi
Reicheru (2) : *PENALTY*, *PENALTY*
Carrie (2) : Anneliese, Jakub
Judith (1) : Arthur
Tenchi (1) : Jennipher
Jack (1) : Shane
Not Voting (1) : Tyler

~~Episode One : Revote~~
Jakub (7) : Judith, Leena, Carrie, Jennipher, Reicheru, Jessica, Miles
Tyler (5) : Jack, Jakub, Arthur, Shane, Tenchi,
Not Voting (2) : Tyler, Anneliese

~~Episode Two : Vote Count~~
Tyler (12): PENALTY(X12)
Carrie (5) : Judith, Anneliese, Jessica, Reicheru, Arthur
Judith (3) : Carrie, Shane, *PENALTY*
Jack (2) : Jennipher, Tenchi
Tenchi (1) : Jack
Shane (1) : Miles
Not Voting (1) : Tyler

~~Episode Three : Vote Count~~
Judith (15): Carrie, Jack, Miles, Raphael, Bebe, Trina, Jessica, Bruce,
Shane, Taylor, Tenchi, Anneliese, *PENALTY*, *PENALTY, *PENALTY*

Carrie (7) : Jennipher, Judith, Claire, Matthew, Arthur, Reicheru, Brooks,
Sujata (5) : *PENALTY*, *PENALTY*, *PENALTY*, *PENALTY*, *PENALTY*
Jordan (3) : *PENALTY*, *PENALTY*, *PENALTY*
Claire (2) : *PENALTY*, *PENALTY*

~~Episode Four: Vote Count~~
Jennipher (11): Jack, Carrie, Raphael, Brooks, Claire, Miles,
Shane, Taylor, Anneliese *EXTRA*, *EXTRA*

Brooks (3) : Jennipher, Bruce, Jessica
Anneliese (2) : Tenchi, Trina
Raphael (1) : *PENALTY*
Carrie (1) : Matthew
Bruce (1) : Reicheru
Reicheru (1) : Bebe
Bebe (1) : Arthur
Arthur (1) : Jordan

~~Episode 4.5: Vote Count~~
Carrie (7) : Jack, Reicheru, Anneliese, Shane, Matthew, Jordan, Jessica
Tenchi (4) : Raphael, *PENALTY*, *PENALTY*, *PENALTY*
Arthur (2) : Miles, Taylor
Jack (2) : Brooks, Trina
Brooks (2) : Bruce, Bebe
Miles (1) : Arthur
Bebe (1) : Claire
Jessica (1) : Carrie
Not Voting (1) : Tenchi
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[Jack]

Just for you, Sam:

~most likely to be a spy~
1) Arthur
2) Brooks
3) Miles
4) Bebe
5) Jessica
6) Matthew
7) Claire
8) Tenchi
9) Raphael
10) Jordan
11) Taylor
12) Trina
13) Bruce
14) Reicheru
15) Anneliese
16) Shane
~least likely to be a Spy~


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For the rest of the questions only include the Top Three people that fit the category, with 1 being the person who fits the category the best and 3 being the person who fits the category the third-best out of all of the rest. Do not include yourself.


The 17 remaining people in the game are: Taylor, Jack, Trina, Miles, Claire, Raphael, Anneliese, Bruce, Jessica, Matthew, Reicheru, Jordan, Arthur, Tenchi, Brooks, Bebe, Shane


Biggest Vote-Wasters: List the top three people you think waste their vote most often. This could include bandwagoning the most, that is, they do not think for themselves and only blindly follow others. It could also include throwing away their votes on random people who they know will not be Exiled.
1) Tenchi
2) Arthur
3) Trina


People You Wish Were Imprisoned: List the top three people you would prefer to be Imprisoned in the next Imprisonment.
1) Reicheru
2) Tenchi
3) Anneliese


The Person People Should Listen More To: List the top three people you think other people should be listening more to instead of the people they are currently listening to. (do not include yourself)
1) Anneliese
2) Bruce
3) Shane


Would Want to See Again: List the top three people who you would want to talk with after the game of Spies is over on their real AIM name and remain friends with.
1) Anneliese
2) Bruce
3) Jordan


Least Helpful Citizen: List the top three people who you think are the least helpful citizens who are useless in your attempts to capture a Spy.
1) Matthew
2) Brooks
3) Claire


Person Most Likely to Crack: List the top three people who are most likely to have (or already had) a mental breakdown as a result of the game.
1) Reicheru
2) Tenchi
3) Arthur


Person Most Likely to Last Awhile: List the top three people you think will not be Imprisoned or Exiled any time soon due to the opinions of others.
1) Bruce
2) Raphael
3) Jessica


Least Active: List the top three people you believe are the least active in communicating with others and acheiving goals within the game.
1) Raphael
2) Miles
3) Trina

Thanks for this. I think this will not only help people as a whole, but it has helped me organize my thoughts. Not sure why I didn't think to ask myself these questions in the first place.

[Jack]

A little todo list I've been working on for when I decide to reappear:

1) Ask Miles about this quote of his: "I'm sort of sure that someone is a spy but I have no concrete evidence and I know that word travels fast around here. I would like to investigate a little more before I dive into actually accusing someone."

2) Ask Miles about why he voted for Shane in Episode Two, and Arthur in Episode Four.

3) Call Arthur out on his role. I am pretty sure the guy is lying.

[Jack]

Anneliese said:

Okay... I'm finally coming clean about it. For the past (5? 4?) weeks, I've been lying to everyone. No, there is no builder, and if there is, I'm sure as hell not it.

I must say I'm shocked. That was one hell of a lie, to be sure. I applaud her for making it so believable. However, in the process, she has placed both herself and Reicheru at the top of my suspect list. Both have now lied over an extended period of time about a role of theirs. I do not believe they are working together, however, it is quite possible. I'm going to need to rethink everything now.

This does NOT affect me feelings on Shane's alignment whatsoever.

[Jack]

And, Sam, please ignore my last posting. I'm not sure you want me modifying my posts, but even if it's allowed, I'd rather you see my past and present feelings to see just how that confession of Anneliese's changes things.

Here is the updated version:

~most likely to be a spy~
1) Reicheru
2) Anneliese
3) Arthur
4) Miles
5) Bebe
6) Jessica
7) Brooks
8) Matthew
9) Claire
10) Tenchi
11) Raphael
12) Jordan
13) Taylor
14) Trina
15) Bruce
16) Shane
~Least likely to be a Spy~


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For the rest of the questions only include the Top Three people that fit the category, with 1 being the person who fits the category the best and 3 being the person who fits the category the third-best out of all of the rest. Do not include yourself.


The 17 remaining people in the game are: Taylor, Jack, Trina, Miles, Claire, Raphael, Anneliese, Bruce, Jessica, Matthew, Reicheru, Jordan, Arthur, Tenchi, Brooks, Bebe, Shane


Biggest Vote-Wasters: List the top three people you think waste their vote most often. This could include bandwagoning the most, that is, they do not think for themselves and only blindly follow others. It could also include throwing away their votes on random people who they know will not be Exiled.
1) Tenchi
2) Arthur
3) Trina


People You Wish Were Imprisoned: List the top three people you would prefer to be Imprisoned in the next Imprisonment.
1) Reicheru
2) Tenchi
3) Trina

Note: I removed Anneliese because now that we know she's lying, it doesn't MATTER if she's a Citizen or a Spy - Reicheru is no longer cleared, and that is the benefit I would have gained from knowing her true alignment. Tenchi I want gone because he is a complete waste of votes, and Reicheru just because she has some of the worst theories ever.


The Person People Should Listen More To: List the top three people you think other people should be listening more to instead of the people they are currently listening to. (do not include yourself)
1) Shane
2) Bruce
3) Jordan


Would Want to See Again: List the top three people who you would want to talk with after the game of Spies is over on their real AIM name and remain friends with.
1) Anneliese
2) Bruce
3) Jordan

Note : I don't care that Anneliese lied to me. It was well done. I try my best to not take things personally. :-)

Least Helpful Citizen: List the top three people who you think are the least helpful citizens who are useless in your attempts to capture a Spy.
1) Matthew
2) Brooks
3) Claire


Person Most Likely to Crack: List the top three people who are most likely to have (or already had) a mental breakdown as a result of the game.
1) Reicheru
2) Tenchi
3) Arthur


Person Most Likely to Last Awhile: List the top three people you think will not be Imprisoned or Exiled any time soon due to the opinions of others.
1) Bruce
2) Raphael
3) Jessica


Least Active: List the top three people you believe are the least active in communicating with others and achieving goals within the game.
1) Raphael
2) Miles
3) Taylor

Note : I think I meant to put Taylor rather than Trina. Not sure what I was thinking.

Thanks for this. I think this will not only help people as a whole, but it has helped me organize my thoughts. Not sure why I didn't think to ask myself these questions in the first place.

[Jack]

You know, I wonder if she really DID lie. Seriously. It seems so like her to fake a lie like this. She's scared as hell about being imprisoned. She knows she was targeted last time, and her lie seems too well done. How convenient to come up with a confession like this the day before imprisonment? She knows there are other people who the Spies would gladly target simply by knowing that there is a CHANCE that Anneliese lied about her ability. For example: Trina claims to know who the Gift Giver is. Why not get rid of her? Arthur(if he is not a spy) claims to have a role as well. Why not go for him?

I'll keep this in mind, but she is still a suspect just given the possibility that she has lied.

[Reicheru]

jack said:

In response to Arthur, I think the guy is lying. Seriously. His claimed role seems absurd, and I have seen absolutely NO indication from previous conversations with either him or anyone else that what he claims to be able to do has been done at all.

And you see, that's twice in two spy games I have to work with someone with no detectable sense of humour! I seriously thought Jack was DC early on. Later on I thought possibly Paul (Karl - the other one who appeared to have no personality at all until after the game). By the time Jack was exiled, I was sorry to lose an ally, but I was about ready to hit him repeatedly in the face with a frying pan. I daresay he felt the same about me...

[Bebe]

Oh yeah, Jack felt the same way about Reicheru. Wait until you read the chats from next round. I think my favorite part was when 7 people, including Jack, Reicheru, and I were in a chat room together, and Jack created an entirely new chat room for the 6 of us called "Chat minus Reicheru" so everyone else could talk without you there.

[Reicheru]

LOL. I can well believe it. I think we were close to killing each other by the end. And BTW, sorry about calling YOU "humourless", DC, I didn't mean it like that! Just think of us like Karl and Nicole... sorry, non Spies 2 peeps...

[Jack]

reicheru said:

jack said:

In response to Arthur, I think the guy is lying. Seriously. His claimed role seems absurd, and I have seen absolutely NO indication from previous conversations with either him or anyone else that what he claims to be able to do has been done at all.

And you see, that's twice in two spy games I have to work with someone with no detectable sense of humour! I seriously thought Jack was DC early on. Later on I thought possibly Paul (Karl - the other one who appeared to have no personality at all until after the game). By the time Jack was exiled, I was sorry to lose an ally, but I was about ready to hit him repeatedly in the face with a frying pan. I daresay he felt the same about me...

I had considered the fact that he was joking, but was on AIM hiatus for fear of imprisonment, hehe.

[Anneliese]

Poor Jack attack, I sent his head totally spinning when I lied about lying about lying about lying...

But it's okay, I always knew he had good intentions