Post by Judge Sam on May 24, 2007 20:43:50 GMT -5
(7:59:38 PM) You have just entered room "spies3exile4point5."
(7:59:39 PM) spies3Jack has entered the room.
(7:59:40 PM) spies3Matthew has entered the room.
(7:59:41 PM) spies3Reicheru has entered the room.
(7:59:42 PM) spies3Claire has entered the room.
(7:59:42 PM) spies3Bruce has entered the room.
(7:59:44 PM) spies3Carrie has entered the room.
(7:59:54 PM) spies3Anneliese has entered the room.
(7:59:55 PM) spies3trina has entered the room.
spies3Matthew (7:59:56 PM): ello
(7:59:56 PM) spies3Taylor has entered the room.
spies3Claire (8:00:02 PM): hello!
Sorin the Seeker (8:00:12 PM): hey hey hey
spies3Matthew (8:00:16 PM): ew its Sam
spies3Anneliese (8:00:17 PM): Good luck everyone
spies3Bruce (8:00:18 PM): greetings my fellow citizens (spies don't get greeted)
(8:00:27 PM) spies3Raphael has entered the room.
(8:00:32 PM) spies3Tenchi has entered the room.
(8:00:44 PM) spies3Jessica has entered the room.
Sorin the Seeker (8:00:53 PM): two minutes to vote
spies3Tenchi (8:00:59 PM): ><
spies3Claire (8:01:00 PM): crap!
spies3Claire (8:01:06 PM): brb
spies3Anneliese (8:01:39 PM): lol
Sorin the Seeker (8:02:06 PM): so how has communication been for the past few days?
spies3Jack (8:02:11 PM): Slow
spies3Matthew (8:02:15 PM): murph
spies3Jack (8:02:15 PM): Until tonight
spies3Anneliese (8:02:17 PM): Less hectic
spies3trina (8:02:17 PM): last night absolutely no one was on ugh.
spies3Matthew (8:02:25 PM): so-so
spies3Matthew (8:02:29 PM): i talked to...
spies3Tenchi (8:02:30 PM): I AM SORRY... ><
spies3Claire (8:02:35 PM): back
spies3Matthew (8:02:36 PM): Anneliese
Sorin the Seeker (8:02:36 PM): I think we all needed a break
spies3Matthew (8:02:37 PM): and...
spies3Anneliese (8:02:42 PM):
spies3Matthew (8:02:44 PM): i cant remember if anyone else
Sorin the Seeker (8:02:46 PM): I am wondering if we should take 1 or 2 days off for memorial weekend =)
spies3Matthew (8:02:48 PM): lol
spies3Anneliese (8:02:59 PM): how about 20?
spies3Matthew (8:03:00 PM): in memory of those who have been imprisoned/wrongly exiled
Sorin the Seeker (8:03:24 PM): Welcome everyone to Exile #4.5!
spies3trina (8:03:27 PM): 1 day is fine by me honestly
spies3trina (8:03:33 PM): unless its wrong for anyone else
spies3Claire (8:03:55 PM): matthew, finish your sentence
spies3Matthew (8:03:55 PM): gawd i want a gift =[
Sorin the Seeker (8:04:01 PM): This is going to be a bit quicker since we're all busy but you know I always underestimate how long these things go so don't get your hopes too high haha
spies3Matthew (8:04:02 PM): i didnt?
spies3Claire (8:04:13 PM): spies3Matthew (9:00:09 PM): i cant remember if anyone else
spies3Tenchi (8:04:16 PM): ><
spies3Claire (8:04:17 PM): anyone else what?
spies3Tenchi (8:04:22 PM): THis is horrible.
spies3trina (8:04:29 PM): Sam, are votes finals and no more changing of votes?
spies3trina (8:04:36 PM): or until votes are announced.
Sorin the Seeker (8:04:36 PM): yep
spies3Matthew (8:04:37 PM): i talked to Anneliese... and i cant remember if anyone else
spies3Claire (8:04:48 PM): oh
spies3Claire (8:04:50 PM): now i get it
spies3Matthew (8:04:51 PM): i seperated it into segments =]
spies3Claire (8:04:54 PM): you're so confusing
spies3trina (8:04:55 PM): Ok....I'll post what I have to say before votes are announced then
Sorin the Seeker (8:04:59 PM): voting deadline was 8:00 PM CST
spies3Matthew (8:05:10 PM): if the gift givers here, give me something =], i wanna be special!
spies3Anneliese (8:05:16 PM): Yes, me too
spies3Anneliese (8:05:17 PM): lol
spies3Matthew (8:05:19 PM): or role giver or w.e
Sorin the Seeker (8:05:23 PM): 8 Citizens gone... still so correctly convicted suspects...
Sorin the Seeker (8:05:30 PM): It's kind of getting a little funny if you think about it :-)
Sorin the Seeker (8:05:50 PM): I think that taunt thing was hilarious but maybe it's just me
spies3Claire (8:05:51 PM): ahhh no it's not sam
Sorin the Seeker (8:06:02 PM): I mean there's 18 people right
spies3Claire (8:06:03 PM): sam is a spy, it is confirmed now
spies3Jessica (8:06:11 PM): exile sam
spies3Anneliese (8:06:11 PM): Satan Sam
spies3Jack (8:06:12 PM): Duh
Sorin the Seeker (8:06:17 PM): and 5 of them are sitting behind their keyboards just laughing as they hit the buttons
spies3Jack (8:06:27 PM): Exile Sam and put Jack Sparrow in charge *nod self*
spies3Anneliese (8:06:32 PM): lol
spies3Matthew (8:06:38 PM): yep, but the good things is
spies3Matthew (8:06:48 PM): once we exile em they wont be laughin =]
Sorin the Seeker (8:06:52 PM): What was your reaction to the teaser image in the Burg?
spies3Tenchi (8:06:54 PM): ><
spies3Tenchi (8:07:05 PM): YOU GUYS SUCK BECAUSE WE HAVE HINTS
spies3Claire (8:07:13 PM): they're so cocky
spies3Reicheru (8:07:18 PM): Sam, i doubt it means anything.
spies3Jessica (8:07:27 PM): I was hesitant to even read it
spies3Reicheru (8:07:35 PM): They could put anything in that image they want... it could all be illusion.
spies3Anneliese (8:07:38 PM): It made me laugh
spies3Jessica (8:07:39 PM): anything they put out, they probably wanted that specific part out
spies3Claire (8:07:52 PM): yea i agree
spies3Reicheru (8:08:13 PM): Well, one bit... the bit about Judith's exile... the spies didn't do that, I did.
spies3Reicheru (8:08:16 PM): I am not spy, so...
spies3Reicheru (8:08:19 PM): Obviously a lie.
spies3Matthew (8:08:23 PM): i thought i was given a gift that i was able to see like these clues or something
spies3Matthew (8:08:29 PM): then i read the topic and said "aww"
spies3Jessica (8:08:38 PM): haha
spies3Matthew (8:08:38 PM): and changed my post to NEVERMIND
spies3Anneliese (8:08:42 PM): lol
spies3Claire (8:08:47 PM): haha
spies3Jack (8:08:58 PM): My reaction is it's just something to throw us off course and should therefore be laughed at then ignored
spies3Claire (8:08:58 PM): be back in a few minutes
spies3Jack (8:08:59 PM): :-)
Sorin the Seeker (8:09:00 PM): The fact that they have a thread titled: "STRATEGY - Episode Four" in the Spy Headquarters with at least 42 posts in it... kinda scary if you ask me
spies3Raphael (8:09:01 PM): Matt, gifts will be posted in your confessional
spies3Matthew (8:09:14 PM): yeah i know
spies3Matthew (8:09:23 PM): but i still hoped
spies3Matthew (8:09:24 PM): =
spies3Matthew (8:09:28 PM): =]*
spies3Tenchi (8:09:35 PM): YES ><
spies3Tenchi (8:09:43 PM): It means these guys are damn orgasnized.
Sorin the Seeker (8:09:46 PM): Well I've got good news then some more taunting in store today
Sorin the Seeker (8:09:52 PM): The good news is that
Sorin the Seeker (8:09:56 PM): while 8 Citizens have met their demise
spies3Matthew (8:10:03 PM): ...
spies3Tenchi (8:10:08 PM):
Sorin the Seeker (8:10:12 PM): not a single one has had a Citizen's special ability
spies3trina (8:10:28 PM): woo?
spies3Tenchi (8:10:32 PM): YAYE
Sorin the Seeker (8:10:37 PM): Which means there may still be one or more out there in effect
spies3Jack (8:10:37 PM): Nice
spies3Matthew (8:10:45 PM): wait what?
spies3Reicheru (8:10:48 PM): And how many spies with a SPY'S special ability have we exiled yet?
spies3Anneliese (8:10:52 PM): lol
spies3Reicheru (8:10:53 PM): Not to put a downer on things...
spies3Tenchi (8:10:55 PM): lol
spies3Anneliese (8:10:55 PM): 20
Sorin the Seeker (8:11:00 PM): 0
spies3Matthew (8:11:12 PM): what Citizens's special ability?
Sorin the Seeker (8:11:13 PM): perhaps that could be used to the Citizen's advantage
spies3Anneliese (8:11:19 PM): Actually Sujata was, in herself, 4 of the spies - there's only one more to exile!
spies3Reicheru (8:11:21 PM): I do not believe there are ANY abilities.
Sorin the Seeker (8:11:34 PM): So that's a little looking on the bright side =)
spies3Anneliese (8:11:42 PM): Did I tell anyone of my latest ability? It's called God - I win, you lose
spies3Jack (8:11:42 PM): There's a bright side? heh....
spies3Claire (8:11:44 PM): back
spies3Reicheru (8:11:48 PM): I think everyone is just really good at lying about them.
spies3Matthew (8:12:03 PM): Sam what do you mean, Citizen Special AbilitieS?
spies3Tenchi (8:12:04 PM): hai Rei chan~~~
spies3Matthew (8:12:14 PM): like the Gift Giver or w.e?
Sorin the Seeker (8:12:18 PM): Okay I've got another movie to present!
Sorin the Seeker (8:12:19 PM): yes
spies3Matthew (8:12:23 PM): ooo
Sorin the Seeker (8:12:24 PM): but this one isn't as happy as the last one
spies3Claire (8:12:29 PM):
spies3Anneliese (8:12:31 PM): another one that I can't watch
spies3Claire (8:12:33 PM): what happens?
spies3Tenchi (8:12:38 PM): ><
Sorin the Seeker (8:12:41 PM): Let's watch together! www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KgTvzaAt08
spies3Tenchi (8:12:44 PM): Nani?
spies3Claire (8:12:53 PM): nani? english?
spies3Jessica (8:12:56 PM): judy's cooking show
spies3Claire (8:12:59 PM): ohhh
spies3Tenchi (8:13:16 PM): (What?)
spies3Claire (8:13:24 PM): OHHHH
spies3trina (8:13:24 PM): this is evil sam
spies3Jack (8:13:32 PM): Spies = bastards
spies3Jessica (8:13:53 PM): wtf, they are counting their imprisonments as points for them?
spies3Raphael (8:14:04 PM): OMG, I don't even know what to say.
spies3Tenchi (8:14:06 PM): FUCK YOU SPIES
spies3Matthew (8:14:24 PM): yay ,5!
spies3Bruce (8:14:32 PM): well, the spies misspelled "knew", they do have a weakness
spies3Jessica (8:14:43 PM): haha
spies3Tenchi (8:14:53 PM): LMAO!!!
spies3Anneliese (8:14:58 PM): lmao
spies3trina (8:15:04 PM): lol
spies3Matthew (8:15:18 PM): well we have .5!
spies3Tenchi (8:15:26 PM): ><
spies3Claire (8:15:26 PM): yay! go us!
spies3Jack (8:15:30 PM): *is officially pissed off*
spies3Tenchi (8:15:31 PM): Great job Matt.
spies3Jack (8:15:44 PM): No one taunts Jack Sparrow and gets away.
Sorin the Seeker (8:15:49 PM): lmao... I mean... that's horrible!
spies3Matthew (8:15:49 PM): so if we exile a citizen, we just gotta chop em in half and they;ll only get another .5 =]
spies3Jessica (8:16:01 PM): haha
spies3Claire (8:16:03 PM): matthew you're not helping
spies3Matthew (8:16:08 PM): =[
Sorin the Seeker (8:16:16 PM): <3 Spies
spies3Matthew (8:16:23 PM): </3 Sam
spies3Tenchi (8:16:39 PM): Sam is a spy.
spies3Claire (8:16:40 PM): sam = evil
spies3Matthew (8:16:46 PM): Sam's a judge
spies3Reicheru (8:16:48 PM): Less than three spies? Are you sure?
spies3Jessica (8:16:51 PM): *machine gun smiley* sam
spies3Jessica (8:17:09 PM): lol rei
spies3Reicheru (8:17:09 PM): That seems unlikely to me.
spies3Reicheru (8:17:14 PM): ;-)
spies3Claire (8:17:16 PM): can we get onto the votes so maybe we can have 1.5 points?
Sorin the Seeker (8:17:17 PM): lmao, well usually I root for the underdog, but there's only so much disappointment I can take
spies3Tenchi (8:17:18 PM): Its a heart Rei-chan~~~
spies3Claire (8:17:27 PM): sam you are so mean
spies3Tenchi (8:17:29 PM): ><
spies3Reicheru (8:17:36 PM): Tenchi... I would never have realised that without your help.
spies3Matthew (8:17:36 PM): lol
spies3Reicheru (8:17:38 PM): Domo arigato.
Sorin the Seeker (8:17:50 PM): Okay I am going to count and verify the votes now. While I do that I have a special topic of discussion to introduce.
Sorin the Seeker (8:18:03 PM): There's been a lot of talk about "bandwagoning" recently, with most assuming that this is a bad thing.
spies3Jack (8:18:15 PM): Can be.
spies3Reicheru (8:18:24 PM): Three words: Jakub. Judith. Jennipher.
spies3Claire (8:18:27 PM): but in spies1 and 2 the citz had groups which helped them win the game
Sorin the Seeker (8:18:29 PM): However people have also had derision for votes that are spread out amongst a large number of people with little to no effect
spies3Reicheru (8:18:33 PM): Maybe we just vote someone whose name does NOT begin with "J"?
spies3Claire (8:18:43 PM): could work reicheru
spies3trina (8:18:44 PM): or vote jack and jessica
spies3trina (8:18:49 PM): those work
spies3Jessica (8:18:55 PM):
Sorin the Seeker (8:18:58 PM): So if you can't spread your votes, and you can't all vote for the same person, what's supposed to happen?
spies3Matthew (8:18:59 PM): lol
spies3Reicheru (8:18:59 PM): Trina - I'd vote them for sure.
spies3Tenchi (8:19:07 PM): Sam
spies3Jessica (8:19:11 PM): what about jordan
spies3trina (8:19:14 PM): oh yes jordan
spies3Tenchi (8:19:15 PM): The only thing bad about badnwagoning
Sorin the Seeker (8:19:15 PM): Which is better, a bandwagon or spread votes? Which gets more evidence? Which is more effective? Do tell. :-)
spies3Jack (8:19:17 PM): Shane wants in
spies3trina (8:19:17 PM): he wasnt in the room
spies3trina (8:19:18 PM): oops
spies3trina (8:19:52 PM): Spreading out votes is better. It allows people to realize what everyone is thinking
spies3Tenchi (8:19:53 PM): is that people vote for people because of SECOND-HAND information. The do not do their own investigations. Thats why people are so MANIPULATED. and end up EXILING citizens. PLEASE DO YOUR OWN INVESTIGATIONS!!!
spies3Jessica (8:20:01 PM): The best in my opinion is a split vote betweeb two suspects
spies3Jessica (8:20:05 PM): so a mix of both
spies3Jack (8:20:18 PM): Someone mind inviting Shane? Not working for me.
spies3Reicheru (8:20:22 PM): I think everyone should vote individually... says the biggest bandwagon-roller of them all.
spies3Bruce (8:20:41 PM): spread votes creates more pressure on more individuals at the same time, increasing the odds that somebody slips up, but in the end, there has to be enough votes to win
spies3Taylor (8:20:42 PM): well without a majority we'll never get a spy out, all they have to do is throw a few votes one way.
spies3Taylor (8:20:56 PM): i agree with jessica
(8:21:13 PM) spies3Shane has entered the room.
spies3Shane (8:21:17 PM): Thanks guys!
spies3Tenchi (8:21:19 PM): But please find your own damn reasons.
spies3Bruce (8:21:24 PM): hi shane
spies3Reicheru (8:21:25 PM): Did you get our twenty invitations Shane?
spies3Jessica (8:21:27 PM): but in a situation with many confirmeds (or near confirmeds) its hard to get a good split
spies3Tenchi (8:21:29 PM): People are copy pasting reasons!
spies3Carrie (8:21:29 PM): Vote individually but be open to other people's suspicions on theories, especially a select group of people that you believe you can trust
spies3Tenchi (8:21:32 PM): Ok
spies3Tenchi (8:21:35 PM): nobody listening to me
spies3Shane (8:21:37 PM): I got two, but only Bruce's worked.
spies3Jack (8:21:46 PM): Cause Bruce is the man
spies3Bruce (8:21:54 PM): wow? something with my aim... worked? this is new
spies3Reicheru (8:21:56 PM): If I ever want "in" anywhere, I go to Bruce.
spies3Shane (8:21:58 PM): What's going on?
spies3Reicheru (8:22:07 PM): Chatrooms, high-class parties...
spies3Reicheru (8:22:09 PM): Anything.
Sorin the Seeker (8:22:28 PM): Do people gather together to jointly decide who to vote for, or do people mostly just vote who they want? Or are there some people who do one of those and some people who do the other?
spies3Reicheru (8:22:43 PM): Well I think Tenchi rolls a dice.
spies3trina (8:22:44 PM): I think everyone votes however they feel like it when its up in the air
spies3Tenchi (8:22:56 PM): PEOPLE BANDWAGON because powerful SPIES tell them to vote that way.
spies3trina (8:22:57 PM): but if there is a bandwagon a lot of people feel inclined to vote with the majority
spies3Tenchi (8:23:04 PM): Of course nobody is lstening to me.
spies3Reicheru (8:23:09 PM): Tenchi, I am.
spies3Jessica (8:23:19 PM): From what I have seen, we talk about suspects, then the people who are on decide between them before exile.
spies3Reicheru (8:23:45 PM): Do not get so worked up, hugglemuffin.
spies3Raphael (8:23:45 PM): I try and gather as much information as possible, and some times it does lead to bandwagoning, yes. We say that with me last time.
spies3Raphael (8:24:13 PM): saw*
Sorin the Seeker (8:24:24 PM): Is a random vote a throw away vote?
spies3Jessica (8:24:35 PM): at this point, yes
spies3Claire (8:24:37 PM): if it's random yes
spies3trina (8:24:38 PM): yes
spies3Taylor (8:24:40 PM): definately
spies3Claire (8:24:43 PM): if there's reasoning behind it, no
spies3Shane (8:24:44 PM): Kinda, because that person wont get enough.
spies3Shane (8:24:52 PM): But at least you vote for your suspects.
spies3Reicheru (8:24:52 PM): Well last time I vote randomly only because I do not want to join a bandwagon myself.
spies3Raphael (8:24:54 PM): not if there is a reason behind it, as claire just said
spies3Claire (8:25:00 PM): but don't you want people to know why you voted for someone else
spies3Tenchi (8:25:04 PM): There is ALWAYS a reason.
spies3Taylor (8:25:06 PM): well why not vote for someone you suspect then reicheru
Sorin the Seeker (8:25:08 PM): And how could a throw away vote possibly help accomplish the goal of Citizens at Exile - to achieve a majority vote against a Spy?
spies3Reicheru (8:25:08 PM): I vote Bruce because I am sure he is in no danger...
spies3Jack (8:25:12 PM): Random voting is only good early on
spies3Reicheru (8:25:19 PM): Taylor - because I try to convince people not to vote Jennipher.
spies3Jack (8:25:20 PM): At this point you need to guide your votes with what you know
spies3trina (8:25:22 PM): to get people's thoughts out i guess
spies3Jack (8:25:27 PM): Otherwise you use raw statistics
spies3Claire (8:25:30 PM): it may not, but at least for next exile the other citz will have a reasoning behind it
spies3Reicheru (8:25:31 PM): Maybe you do not notice, but I am not exactly the most trusted person in the burg right now.
spies3Jack (8:25:32 PM): Instead of cutting it down a bit.
spies3Tenchi (8:25:42 PM): It helps me gather information about everybody's motives without comprimising my stand.
spies3Tenchi (8:25:51 PM): Thast my reason.
spies3Reicheru (8:25:52 PM): Nobody listens, and I do not want to vote someone who I think is likely a citizen...
spies3Reicheru (8:25:55 PM): So I vote Bruce.
spies3Anneliese (8:25:56 PM): I'm going to be blunt
spies3Bruce (8:25:56 PM): aw, watch 14 different people decide to vote bruce because he's in no danger tonight
spies3Reicheru (8:25:58 PM): Sorry Bruce!
spies3Anneliese (8:26:04 PM): voting for someone that isn't in at least your Top 5 suspects is RIDICULOUS
spies3Anneliese (8:26:19 PM): everyone should have the goal of getting rid of spies
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spies3Matthew (7:59:56 PM): ello
(7:59:56 PM) spies3Taylor has entered the room.
spies3Claire (8:00:02 PM): hello!
Sorin the Seeker (8:00:12 PM): hey hey hey
spies3Matthew (8:00:16 PM): ew its Sam
spies3Anneliese (8:00:17 PM): Good luck everyone
spies3Bruce (8:00:18 PM): greetings my fellow citizens (spies don't get greeted)
(8:00:27 PM) spies3Raphael has entered the room.
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Sorin the Seeker (8:00:53 PM): two minutes to vote
spies3Tenchi (8:00:59 PM): ><
spies3Claire (8:01:00 PM): crap!
spies3Claire (8:01:06 PM): brb
spies3Anneliese (8:01:39 PM): lol
Sorin the Seeker (8:02:06 PM): so how has communication been for the past few days?
spies3Jack (8:02:11 PM): Slow
spies3Matthew (8:02:15 PM): murph
spies3Jack (8:02:15 PM): Until tonight
spies3Anneliese (8:02:17 PM): Less hectic
spies3trina (8:02:17 PM): last night absolutely no one was on ugh.
spies3Matthew (8:02:25 PM): so-so
spies3Matthew (8:02:29 PM): i talked to...
spies3Tenchi (8:02:30 PM): I AM SORRY... ><
spies3Claire (8:02:35 PM): back
spies3Matthew (8:02:36 PM): Anneliese
Sorin the Seeker (8:02:36 PM): I think we all needed a break
spies3Matthew (8:02:37 PM): and...
spies3Anneliese (8:02:42 PM):
spies3Matthew (8:02:44 PM): i cant remember if anyone else
Sorin the Seeker (8:02:46 PM): I am wondering if we should take 1 or 2 days off for memorial weekend =)
spies3Matthew (8:02:48 PM): lol
spies3Anneliese (8:02:59 PM): how about 20?
spies3Matthew (8:03:00 PM): in memory of those who have been imprisoned/wrongly exiled
Sorin the Seeker (8:03:24 PM): Welcome everyone to Exile #4.5!
spies3trina (8:03:27 PM): 1 day is fine by me honestly
spies3trina (8:03:33 PM): unless its wrong for anyone else
spies3Claire (8:03:55 PM): matthew, finish your sentence
spies3Matthew (8:03:55 PM): gawd i want a gift =[
Sorin the Seeker (8:04:01 PM): This is going to be a bit quicker since we're all busy but you know I always underestimate how long these things go so don't get your hopes too high haha
spies3Matthew (8:04:02 PM): i didnt?
spies3Claire (8:04:13 PM): spies3Matthew (9:00:09 PM): i cant remember if anyone else
spies3Tenchi (8:04:16 PM): ><
spies3Claire (8:04:17 PM): anyone else what?
spies3Tenchi (8:04:22 PM): THis is horrible.
spies3trina (8:04:29 PM): Sam, are votes finals and no more changing of votes?
spies3trina (8:04:36 PM): or until votes are announced.
Sorin the Seeker (8:04:36 PM): yep
spies3Matthew (8:04:37 PM): i talked to Anneliese... and i cant remember if anyone else
spies3Claire (8:04:48 PM): oh
spies3Claire (8:04:50 PM): now i get it
spies3Matthew (8:04:51 PM): i seperated it into segments =]
spies3Claire (8:04:54 PM): you're so confusing
spies3trina (8:04:55 PM): Ok....I'll post what I have to say before votes are announced then
Sorin the Seeker (8:04:59 PM): voting deadline was 8:00 PM CST
spies3Matthew (8:05:10 PM): if the gift givers here, give me something =], i wanna be special!
spies3Anneliese (8:05:16 PM): Yes, me too
spies3Anneliese (8:05:17 PM): lol
spies3Matthew (8:05:19 PM): or role giver or w.e
Sorin the Seeker (8:05:23 PM): 8 Citizens gone... still so correctly convicted suspects...
Sorin the Seeker (8:05:30 PM): It's kind of getting a little funny if you think about it :-)
Sorin the Seeker (8:05:50 PM): I think that taunt thing was hilarious but maybe it's just me
spies3Claire (8:05:51 PM): ahhh no it's not sam
Sorin the Seeker (8:06:02 PM): I mean there's 18 people right
spies3Claire (8:06:03 PM): sam is a spy, it is confirmed now
spies3Jessica (8:06:11 PM): exile sam
spies3Anneliese (8:06:11 PM): Satan Sam
spies3Jack (8:06:12 PM): Duh
Sorin the Seeker (8:06:17 PM): and 5 of them are sitting behind their keyboards just laughing as they hit the buttons
spies3Jack (8:06:27 PM): Exile Sam and put Jack Sparrow in charge *nod self*
spies3Anneliese (8:06:32 PM): lol
spies3Matthew (8:06:38 PM): yep, but the good things is
spies3Matthew (8:06:48 PM): once we exile em they wont be laughin =]
Sorin the Seeker (8:06:52 PM): What was your reaction to the teaser image in the Burg?
spies3Tenchi (8:06:54 PM): ><
spies3Tenchi (8:07:05 PM): YOU GUYS SUCK BECAUSE WE HAVE HINTS
spies3Claire (8:07:13 PM): they're so cocky
spies3Reicheru (8:07:18 PM): Sam, i doubt it means anything.
spies3Jessica (8:07:27 PM): I was hesitant to even read it
spies3Reicheru (8:07:35 PM): They could put anything in that image they want... it could all be illusion.
spies3Anneliese (8:07:38 PM): It made me laugh
spies3Jessica (8:07:39 PM): anything they put out, they probably wanted that specific part out
spies3Claire (8:07:52 PM): yea i agree
spies3Reicheru (8:08:13 PM): Well, one bit... the bit about Judith's exile... the spies didn't do that, I did.
spies3Reicheru (8:08:16 PM): I am not spy, so...
spies3Reicheru (8:08:19 PM): Obviously a lie.
spies3Matthew (8:08:23 PM): i thought i was given a gift that i was able to see like these clues or something
spies3Matthew (8:08:29 PM): then i read the topic and said "aww"
spies3Jessica (8:08:38 PM): haha
spies3Matthew (8:08:38 PM): and changed my post to NEVERMIND
spies3Anneliese (8:08:42 PM): lol
spies3Claire (8:08:47 PM): haha
spies3Jack (8:08:58 PM): My reaction is it's just something to throw us off course and should therefore be laughed at then ignored
spies3Claire (8:08:58 PM): be back in a few minutes
spies3Jack (8:08:59 PM): :-)
Sorin the Seeker (8:09:00 PM): The fact that they have a thread titled: "STRATEGY - Episode Four" in the Spy Headquarters with at least 42 posts in it... kinda scary if you ask me
spies3Raphael (8:09:01 PM): Matt, gifts will be posted in your confessional
spies3Matthew (8:09:14 PM): yeah i know
spies3Matthew (8:09:23 PM): but i still hoped
spies3Matthew (8:09:24 PM): =
spies3Matthew (8:09:28 PM): =]*
spies3Tenchi (8:09:35 PM): YES ><
spies3Tenchi (8:09:43 PM): It means these guys are damn orgasnized.
Sorin the Seeker (8:09:46 PM): Well I've got good news then some more taunting in store today
Sorin the Seeker (8:09:52 PM): The good news is that
Sorin the Seeker (8:09:56 PM): while 8 Citizens have met their demise
spies3Matthew (8:10:03 PM): ...
spies3Tenchi (8:10:08 PM):
Sorin the Seeker (8:10:12 PM): not a single one has had a Citizen's special ability
spies3trina (8:10:28 PM): woo?
spies3Tenchi (8:10:32 PM): YAYE
Sorin the Seeker (8:10:37 PM): Which means there may still be one or more out there in effect
spies3Jack (8:10:37 PM): Nice
spies3Matthew (8:10:45 PM): wait what?
spies3Reicheru (8:10:48 PM): And how many spies with a SPY'S special ability have we exiled yet?
spies3Anneliese (8:10:52 PM): lol
spies3Reicheru (8:10:53 PM): Not to put a downer on things...
spies3Tenchi (8:10:55 PM): lol
spies3Anneliese (8:10:55 PM): 20
Sorin the Seeker (8:11:00 PM): 0
spies3Matthew (8:11:12 PM): what Citizens's special ability?
Sorin the Seeker (8:11:13 PM): perhaps that could be used to the Citizen's advantage
spies3Anneliese (8:11:19 PM): Actually Sujata was, in herself, 4 of the spies - there's only one more to exile!
spies3Reicheru (8:11:21 PM): I do not believe there are ANY abilities.
Sorin the Seeker (8:11:34 PM): So that's a little looking on the bright side =)
spies3Anneliese (8:11:42 PM): Did I tell anyone of my latest ability? It's called God - I win, you lose
spies3Jack (8:11:42 PM): There's a bright side? heh....
spies3Claire (8:11:44 PM): back
spies3Reicheru (8:11:48 PM): I think everyone is just really good at lying about them.
spies3Matthew (8:12:03 PM): Sam what do you mean, Citizen Special AbilitieS?
spies3Tenchi (8:12:04 PM): hai Rei chan~~~
spies3Matthew (8:12:14 PM): like the Gift Giver or w.e?
Sorin the Seeker (8:12:18 PM): Okay I've got another movie to present!
Sorin the Seeker (8:12:19 PM): yes
spies3Matthew (8:12:23 PM): ooo
Sorin the Seeker (8:12:24 PM): but this one isn't as happy as the last one
spies3Claire (8:12:29 PM):
spies3Anneliese (8:12:31 PM): another one that I can't watch
spies3Claire (8:12:33 PM): what happens?
spies3Tenchi (8:12:38 PM): ><
Sorin the Seeker (8:12:41 PM): Let's watch together! www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KgTvzaAt08
spies3Tenchi (8:12:44 PM): Nani?
spies3Claire (8:12:53 PM): nani? english?
spies3Jessica (8:12:56 PM): judy's cooking show
spies3Claire (8:12:59 PM): ohhh
spies3Tenchi (8:13:16 PM): (What?)
spies3Claire (8:13:24 PM): OHHHH
spies3trina (8:13:24 PM): this is evil sam
spies3Jack (8:13:32 PM): Spies = bastards
spies3Jessica (8:13:53 PM): wtf, they are counting their imprisonments as points for them?
spies3Raphael (8:14:04 PM): OMG, I don't even know what to say.
spies3Tenchi (8:14:06 PM): FUCK YOU SPIES
spies3Matthew (8:14:24 PM): yay ,5!
spies3Bruce (8:14:32 PM): well, the spies misspelled "knew", they do have a weakness
spies3Jessica (8:14:43 PM): haha
spies3Tenchi (8:14:53 PM): LMAO!!!
spies3Anneliese (8:14:58 PM): lmao
spies3trina (8:15:04 PM): lol
spies3Matthew (8:15:18 PM): well we have .5!
spies3Tenchi (8:15:26 PM): ><
spies3Claire (8:15:26 PM): yay! go us!
spies3Jack (8:15:30 PM): *is officially pissed off*
spies3Tenchi (8:15:31 PM): Great job Matt.
spies3Jack (8:15:44 PM): No one taunts Jack Sparrow and gets away.
Sorin the Seeker (8:15:49 PM): lmao... I mean... that's horrible!
spies3Matthew (8:15:49 PM): so if we exile a citizen, we just gotta chop em in half and they;ll only get another .5 =]
spies3Jessica (8:16:01 PM): haha
spies3Claire (8:16:03 PM): matthew you're not helping
spies3Matthew (8:16:08 PM): =[
Sorin the Seeker (8:16:16 PM): <3 Spies
spies3Matthew (8:16:23 PM): </3 Sam
spies3Tenchi (8:16:39 PM): Sam is a spy.
spies3Claire (8:16:40 PM): sam = evil
spies3Matthew (8:16:46 PM): Sam's a judge
spies3Reicheru (8:16:48 PM): Less than three spies? Are you sure?
spies3Jessica (8:16:51 PM): *machine gun smiley* sam
spies3Jessica (8:17:09 PM): lol rei
spies3Reicheru (8:17:09 PM): That seems unlikely to me.
spies3Reicheru (8:17:14 PM): ;-)
spies3Claire (8:17:16 PM): can we get onto the votes so maybe we can have 1.5 points?
Sorin the Seeker (8:17:17 PM): lmao, well usually I root for the underdog, but there's only so much disappointment I can take
spies3Tenchi (8:17:18 PM): Its a heart Rei-chan~~~
spies3Claire (8:17:27 PM): sam you are so mean
spies3Tenchi (8:17:29 PM): ><
spies3Reicheru (8:17:36 PM): Tenchi... I would never have realised that without your help.
spies3Matthew (8:17:36 PM): lol
spies3Reicheru (8:17:38 PM): Domo arigato.
Sorin the Seeker (8:17:50 PM): Okay I am going to count and verify the votes now. While I do that I have a special topic of discussion to introduce.
Sorin the Seeker (8:18:03 PM): There's been a lot of talk about "bandwagoning" recently, with most assuming that this is a bad thing.
spies3Jack (8:18:15 PM): Can be.
spies3Reicheru (8:18:24 PM): Three words: Jakub. Judith. Jennipher.
spies3Claire (8:18:27 PM): but in spies1 and 2 the citz had groups which helped them win the game
Sorin the Seeker (8:18:29 PM): However people have also had derision for votes that are spread out amongst a large number of people with little to no effect
spies3Reicheru (8:18:33 PM): Maybe we just vote someone whose name does NOT begin with "J"?
spies3Claire (8:18:43 PM): could work reicheru
spies3trina (8:18:44 PM): or vote jack and jessica
spies3trina (8:18:49 PM): those work
spies3Jessica (8:18:55 PM):
Sorin the Seeker (8:18:58 PM): So if you can't spread your votes, and you can't all vote for the same person, what's supposed to happen?
spies3Matthew (8:18:59 PM): lol
spies3Reicheru (8:18:59 PM): Trina - I'd vote them for sure.
spies3Tenchi (8:19:07 PM): Sam
spies3Jessica (8:19:11 PM): what about jordan
spies3trina (8:19:14 PM): oh yes jordan
spies3Tenchi (8:19:15 PM): The only thing bad about badnwagoning
Sorin the Seeker (8:19:15 PM): Which is better, a bandwagon or spread votes? Which gets more evidence? Which is more effective? Do tell. :-)
spies3Jack (8:19:17 PM): Shane wants in
spies3trina (8:19:17 PM): he wasnt in the room
spies3trina (8:19:18 PM): oops
spies3trina (8:19:52 PM): Spreading out votes is better. It allows people to realize what everyone is thinking
spies3Tenchi (8:19:53 PM): is that people vote for people because of SECOND-HAND information. The do not do their own investigations. Thats why people are so MANIPULATED. and end up EXILING citizens. PLEASE DO YOUR OWN INVESTIGATIONS!!!
spies3Jessica (8:20:01 PM): The best in my opinion is a split vote betweeb two suspects
spies3Jessica (8:20:05 PM): so a mix of both
spies3Jack (8:20:18 PM): Someone mind inviting Shane? Not working for me.
spies3Reicheru (8:20:22 PM): I think everyone should vote individually... says the biggest bandwagon-roller of them all.
spies3Bruce (8:20:41 PM): spread votes creates more pressure on more individuals at the same time, increasing the odds that somebody slips up, but in the end, there has to be enough votes to win
spies3Taylor (8:20:42 PM): well without a majority we'll never get a spy out, all they have to do is throw a few votes one way.
spies3Taylor (8:20:56 PM): i agree with jessica
(8:21:13 PM) spies3Shane has entered the room.
spies3Shane (8:21:17 PM): Thanks guys!
spies3Tenchi (8:21:19 PM): But please find your own damn reasons.
spies3Bruce (8:21:24 PM): hi shane
spies3Reicheru (8:21:25 PM): Did you get our twenty invitations Shane?
spies3Jessica (8:21:27 PM): but in a situation with many confirmeds (or near confirmeds) its hard to get a good split
spies3Tenchi (8:21:29 PM): People are copy pasting reasons!
spies3Carrie (8:21:29 PM): Vote individually but be open to other people's suspicions on theories, especially a select group of people that you believe you can trust
spies3Tenchi (8:21:32 PM): Ok
spies3Tenchi (8:21:35 PM): nobody listening to me
spies3Shane (8:21:37 PM): I got two, but only Bruce's worked.
spies3Jack (8:21:46 PM): Cause Bruce is the man
spies3Bruce (8:21:54 PM): wow? something with my aim... worked? this is new
spies3Reicheru (8:21:56 PM): If I ever want "in" anywhere, I go to Bruce.
spies3Shane (8:21:58 PM): What's going on?
spies3Reicheru (8:22:07 PM): Chatrooms, high-class parties...
spies3Reicheru (8:22:09 PM): Anything.
Sorin the Seeker (8:22:28 PM): Do people gather together to jointly decide who to vote for, or do people mostly just vote who they want? Or are there some people who do one of those and some people who do the other?
spies3Reicheru (8:22:43 PM): Well I think Tenchi rolls a dice.
spies3trina (8:22:44 PM): I think everyone votes however they feel like it when its up in the air
spies3Tenchi (8:22:56 PM): PEOPLE BANDWAGON because powerful SPIES tell them to vote that way.
spies3trina (8:22:57 PM): but if there is a bandwagon a lot of people feel inclined to vote with the majority
spies3Tenchi (8:23:04 PM): Of course nobody is lstening to me.
spies3Reicheru (8:23:09 PM): Tenchi, I am.
spies3Jessica (8:23:19 PM): From what I have seen, we talk about suspects, then the people who are on decide between them before exile.
spies3Reicheru (8:23:45 PM): Do not get so worked up, hugglemuffin.
spies3Raphael (8:23:45 PM): I try and gather as much information as possible, and some times it does lead to bandwagoning, yes. We say that with me last time.
spies3Raphael (8:24:13 PM): saw*
Sorin the Seeker (8:24:24 PM): Is a random vote a throw away vote?
spies3Jessica (8:24:35 PM): at this point, yes
spies3Claire (8:24:37 PM): if it's random yes
spies3trina (8:24:38 PM): yes
spies3Taylor (8:24:40 PM): definately
spies3Claire (8:24:43 PM): if there's reasoning behind it, no
spies3Shane (8:24:44 PM): Kinda, because that person wont get enough.
spies3Shane (8:24:52 PM): But at least you vote for your suspects.
spies3Reicheru (8:24:52 PM): Well last time I vote randomly only because I do not want to join a bandwagon myself.
spies3Raphael (8:24:54 PM): not if there is a reason behind it, as claire just said
spies3Claire (8:25:00 PM): but don't you want people to know why you voted for someone else
spies3Tenchi (8:25:04 PM): There is ALWAYS a reason.
spies3Taylor (8:25:06 PM): well why not vote for someone you suspect then reicheru
Sorin the Seeker (8:25:08 PM): And how could a throw away vote possibly help accomplish the goal of Citizens at Exile - to achieve a majority vote against a Spy?
spies3Reicheru (8:25:08 PM): I vote Bruce because I am sure he is in no danger...
spies3Jack (8:25:12 PM): Random voting is only good early on
spies3Reicheru (8:25:19 PM): Taylor - because I try to convince people not to vote Jennipher.
spies3Jack (8:25:20 PM): At this point you need to guide your votes with what you know
spies3trina (8:25:22 PM): to get people's thoughts out i guess
spies3Jack (8:25:27 PM): Otherwise you use raw statistics
spies3Claire (8:25:30 PM): it may not, but at least for next exile the other citz will have a reasoning behind it
spies3Reicheru (8:25:31 PM): Maybe you do not notice, but I am not exactly the most trusted person in the burg right now.
spies3Jack (8:25:32 PM): Instead of cutting it down a bit.
spies3Tenchi (8:25:42 PM): It helps me gather information about everybody's motives without comprimising my stand.
spies3Tenchi (8:25:51 PM): Thast my reason.
spies3Reicheru (8:25:52 PM): Nobody listens, and I do not want to vote someone who I think is likely a citizen...
spies3Reicheru (8:25:55 PM): So I vote Bruce.
spies3Anneliese (8:25:56 PM): I'm going to be blunt
spies3Bruce (8:25:56 PM): aw, watch 14 different people decide to vote bruce because he's in no danger tonight
spies3Reicheru (8:25:58 PM): Sorry Bruce!
spies3Anneliese (8:26:04 PM): voting for someone that isn't in at least your Top 5 suspects is RIDICULOUS
spies3Anneliese (8:26:19 PM): everyone should have the goal of getting rid of spies