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Post by Judge Sam on Jun 6, 2007 15:00:24 GMT -5
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Post by Jessica on Jun 6, 2007 15:10:18 GMT -5
Taylor, no contest.
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Post by Claire on Jun 6, 2007 15:15:21 GMT -5
sam i love the face
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Post by Bebe on Jun 6, 2007 16:02:53 GMT -5
hmmmm this is a toughie i mean it could go either way i could sit here and deliberate for days maybe i should consult my horoscope cuz maybe saturn is in the fifth house and i should go with someone but if saturn is in the sixth house then well that changes things entirely i mean there are seven citizens seven different outcomes and any of them could result in us winning or losing maybe if a butterfly flaps its wings in china it will influence how i vote or maybe the person at the computer terminal next to me who is sniffling will give a big sneeze and make me change my mind i just don't want to rush into a big idea like this that quickly so i will sit here some more and deliberate about it and then i might get up and walk around and deliberate it and then maybe i will go for a run and run around deliberating it but if that does not work out then i will return to this computer right here in this building that i am in a building that has chairs and tables and computers of course because i would not be able to deliberate this problem and post my answer if there was not a computer in front of me so right now i am here and i have a question in front of me who do i imprison and i still am deliberating well there are pros and cons to imprisoning everyone in this group on the one hand if we choose the right one we win but if we choose the wrong one we lose and that is some very serious consequences not as serious as some of the big choices and consequences we face in life but you never know if the outcome of this game will sway things one way or another and therefore i must seriously contemplate which way i will sway on this question that question being who should we imprison this round and so i have reached my answer and it is taylor.
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Post by Raphael on Jun 6, 2007 16:51:22 GMT -5
Agreed, TAYLOR. She is the only confirmed citizen that can actually help the citizens. Jordan won't do much and Jessica, well.... you know.
I vote Taylor
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Post by Tenchi on Jun 6, 2007 17:31:23 GMT -5
I want to Imprison Bebe, but I'm outvoted...
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Post by Jessica on Jun 7, 2007 6:58:25 GMT -5
Sorry Bebe, tl;dr
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Post by Claire on Jun 7, 2007 12:49:33 GMT -5
I want to imprison Reicheru, sorry guys. It's because Taylor may actually agree to vote for matthew or arthur whereas reicheru is really suspicious of bebe, jessica and tenchi
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Post by Jessica on Jun 7, 2007 13:43:59 GMT -5
hmmm. It may make people suspicious of Bebe, Tenchi, and I if rei ends up gone instead of Taylor.
It is a possibility that we could imprison Rei, I'll have to give it more thought.
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Post by Jessica on Jun 7, 2007 14:05:53 GMT -5
Pulling out Tenchi's log from the other thread. Gift Giver Log: CITIZENS Brooks - Exile 5 Immunity Taylor - Mismatch Bruce - Asker Reicheru - ? Matthew - ? Arthur - ? Jordan - ? SPIES Raphael - Extra Exile 4 Votes Tenchi - ? Jessica - ? Bebe - ? Claire - ? Have any other gifts been given since then, or is the list out of date in any way? If we chose to imprison Reicheru, here is how things could turn out. Scenario A) Reicheru was given the gift. (most likely) Taylor can still give the gift to Jordan before she has to hand it over to an unconfirmed. That means we will have to keep her around through another imprisonment to get gifts (again, assuming the game doesn't end). Scenario B) Jordan was given the gift. Rei is gone, and Jordan is checked off on the list, so Taylor will have to give an unconfirmed a gift, so we have a greater than 50% chance of getting a gift. Scenario C) An unconfirmed is given a gift. (not likely, unless it is like anthrax) We have a greater than 50% chance of getting the gift. So if we really want gifts, our best bet is to take out Jordan. If we want to fix our chances of surviving the exile, our best bet is to take out Reicheru. If we want to play it safe by taking out a role, we take out Taylor. I think what we need to look at is how threatening the gifts can be. Or how advantageous it could be to get them. So if: Gifts would help us: We take out Jordan Gifts would hurt us: We take out Taylor Gifts could do either, lets just go head first for the win: We take out Reicheru. After reconsidering it, I would rather see Reicheru go. She is the only confirmed who can take a leader position. Jordan is inactive, and Taylor isn't serious enough. This will leave Bruce or one of us to take leader role. This could mean either Bruce points to a cit, or Bruce points to one of us and that person contests why Bruce has taken leader role.
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Post by Claire on Jun 7, 2007 14:26:55 GMT -5
and as far as the rei thing making people suspicious of bebe and tenchi we could always say "IT'S A SET UP!"
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Post by Bebe on Jun 7, 2007 15:07:43 GMT -5
here is why reicheru needs to stay in:
she disagrees with EVERYTHING.
all 6 citizens need to agree on someone, and she will throw that all into chaos. in fact i think people would rather NOT listen to her.
think of who's left - NONE of them are tight with her except freaking tenchi and he's a freaking spy. she doesn't have any influence over anyone.
this gift thing could really screw us over in the last round if it's a gift that can id someone.
if we somehow don't make it past this round, THEN we get rid of reicheru. but not now. we need to make sure there aren't any surprises this round or in the future.
and that is why taylor has to go.
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Post by Claire on Jun 7, 2007 15:30:38 GMT -5
I vote to imprison Taylor
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Post by Raphael on Jun 7, 2007 16:04:36 GMT -5
My vote is staying the same, TAYLOR
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Post by Tenchi on Jun 7, 2007 17:52:20 GMT -5
FOR YOUR REFERENCE
Updated Log
CITIZENS
Brooks - Exile 5 Immunity Taylor - Mismatch Bruce - Asker Reicheru - Asker (Episode 6) Matthew - ? Arthur - ? Jordan - ?
SPIES
Raphael - Extra Exile 4 Votes Tenchi - ? Jessica - ? Bebe - ? Claire - ?
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Post by Tenchi on Jun 7, 2007 18:08:41 GMT -5
Reiccheru used the Asker role on Miles, and thought he was a spy with an ability. FUNNIEST THING EVER. Interesting it never got out...
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Post by Judge Sam on Jun 7, 2007 18:27:34 GMT -5
Per the rules: Jordan has not voted twice. He has disappeared, and has not talked to anybody in the last 4-6 days. He has not met his responsibilities. It was always going to be that the second inactive would be taken out via Imprisonment. In fact Jordan was very close to being removed for inactivity several times. No one likes having inactives in the game. He will be removed via Imprisonment tonight. I can just sense that those fingers are itching to type up something about how "Sam hates the Spies!" despite the fact that you have gone 7 complete Exiles while receiving only 7 votes from Citizens and have dominated this game since day one. But before you do, realize that this is all in accordance with how the rules have always gone, and then read these latest words of wisdom from Bruce in the Burg: Come on now. ;D As always, I leave it up to you to make the decision on whether you want me to announce if this was a forced Imprisonment or not. I can announce it or I can not, it's up to you. If I was a Spy I would elect not to have it announced as it is to your advantage, but nobody ever listens to me so do whatever you want. I don't care how little the game has left, I'm not going to have inactives playing in it, which is why this is necessary.
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Post by Tenchi on Jun 7, 2007 18:36:51 GMT -5
I am neutral on this one. (If it pushes, I think it would be better to announce it was forced.)
BUT
It will make us look like dumb hopefuls asking for a gift.
spies3Tenchi (8:29:14 AM): Well, Im REALLY worried that you will go. spies3Tenchi (8:29:21 AM): Taylor looks like a dumb cit spies3Tenchi (8:29:25 AM): Jordan is an inactive spies3Tenchi (8:29:32 AM): Youre the last active confirmed left spies3Reicheru (8:29:53 AM): Hai, I do not disagree, but if by any chance we DO get a spy this time, spies3Reicheru (8:30:01 AM): the spies will want Taylor's power taken out of the game. spies3Reicheru (8:30:06 AM): Remember one thing Tenchi-kun: spies3Tenchi (8:30:02 AM): >< spies3Reicheru (8:30:21 AM): If I go, it is probably because the spies are not worried about Taylor giving them a lower. spies3Reicheru (8:30:24 AM): *power. spies3Reicheru (8:30:35 AM): That means that Raphael and Bruce become LESS suspicious. spies3Reicheru (8:30:43 AM): Since they already have powers, they are not eligible for me. spies3Reicheru (8:30:44 AM): more.
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Post by Tenchi on Jun 7, 2007 18:40:21 GMT -5
Why do I want it announced? Because it will look like we want to Imprison Taylor but we can't.
Sam, you may want to add how "pissed off" we are.
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Post by Tenchi on Jun 7, 2007 18:57:54 GMT -5
BUT REALLY I AM PISSED OFF
I just wish we were consulted on this matter and given more time to decide as a group. We have TWO IDLE DAYS and this came up two hours before the Imprisonment.
And besides, the Decision Maker can make choices you need help with Sam, you have to give us the privilege!
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Post by Jessica on Jun 7, 2007 19:24:59 GMT -5
I agree that it should be announced as forced. If the citz can't use logic to determine what we wanted from the imprisonment, it will limit their knowledge.
So announce it as forced, please. <3 Sam.
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Post by Tenchi on Jun 7, 2007 19:35:55 GMT -5
Great I wasn't announced as forced.
Clearly, Sam wants us to lose. And if one of use gets caught, it sets off a chain reaction...
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Post by Judge Sam on Jun 7, 2007 19:41:50 GMT -5
I can always post it later if that's what everyone wants.
Clearly, Tenchi needs a nap.
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Post by Bebe on Jun 7, 2007 20:05:19 GMT -5
sam, that's it. you ruined it for us. that's it, it's game over.
they'll ask "why didn't we imprison taylor"
and then they'll realize - falsely - "they wanted a gift and they wanted taylor to vote out arthur or matthew"
you really screwed the pooch on this one sam. thanks a whole lot.
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Post by Claire on Jun 7, 2007 20:05:44 GMT -5
you know we have really not taken out many citz through imprisonments?
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Post by Bebe on Jun 7, 2007 20:06:52 GMT -5
POST THAT YOU MADE US DO IT RIGHT NOW
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Post by Claire on Jun 7, 2007 20:09:54 GMT -5
WE CAN STILL FRAME ARTHUR AND MATTHEW B/C THEY HAVEN'T GOTTEN GIFTS EITHER...THOUGH IT DOES KINDA SCREW US
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Post by Tenchi on Jun 7, 2007 20:14:19 GMT -5
Duh! If the motive was GETTTING A GIFT, it would screw us since Tenchi, Bebe, Claire and Jessica have YET to have a gift. 2/3 Chance that the spies will get a gift! Huge chance that it will hit us. PLUS the Losers note IS NOT HELPING. Jessica is screwed.
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Post by Bebe on Jun 7, 2007 20:29:55 GMT -5
sam posted. thanks sam.
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