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Post by Trina on Jun 5, 2007 21:22:34 GMT -5
I applaud you boy!!
You were one of the most active players and contributors to the game of spies this season.
Thank you for trying your best to help. It is citizens like you that help make this game instead of the inactives and sheep who follow blind beliefs.
Although I may not have believed you 100%, and I think that if we did know each other was confirmed, it would have helped a lot, I still thought you were so delightful to be in a game with.
Since you are here, I guess I'm kinda anxious to know what your thoughts are.
1. Who do you feel are the spies?
2. Why the Bruce vote during that Bebe voting round? It just doesn't make sense to me. Doesn't it seem obvious that because everyone is unwilling to vote Bebe, it makes her the spy?
Anyways, just wanted to apologize for times I doubted you though in a game like this, I shouldn't really apologize for doubt unless concrete evidence is presented lol. But overall, good game and you did your best.
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Post by Jack on Jun 5, 2007 21:56:28 GMT -5
Is this Heaven?
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Post by Judith on Jun 5, 2007 21:57:39 GMT -5
Jack, my dear! Welcome!! Oh yes, it is heaven. I've enjoyed my time here much more than the actual game! Welcome, welcome, welcome! I've made a fresh batch of cookies JUST for you. Oh how nice it is to see your face again!
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Post by Jack on Jun 5, 2007 22:02:18 GMT -5
Ok, first off, don't apologize for doubting. This game is built around trust, and it's just that anyway -- a game. So I don't really hold grudges, or try not to.
For questions:
I actually have begun thinking about the possibility that Reicheru is a Spy that somehow managed to abuse Anneliese's bunker somehow, but I doubt it. She's REALLY out of line sometimes with her suspicions, and has really ruined my efforts to keep the group TOGETHER on numerous occasions. She was one of the pushers to vote Bebe off after I decided against it, and then pushed for Miles over Bruce, which was stupid. I felt pretty strongly that Miles was a Citizen.
I'm pretty sure there's something going on with Brooks/Claire. Honestly, they caught me off guard this round. I didn't think they'd all have ganged up on me, so that obviously changes my views. Raphael has been bandwagoning the entire game, so I wouldn't be surprised if he was it. So if I had to choose five, who would they be? That's a tough one, but I'll give it a shot:
1) Brooks
2) Claire
3) Raphael
4) Arthur
5) Tenchi
I'm not sure about Tenchi, though.
As for why the Bruce vote -- it's because I would have rather exiled him that Miles. I had plans to put Miles' bunker ability to use, so I wanted to keep him around. Unfortunately, that didn't work.
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Post by Jakub on Jun 5, 2007 22:07:26 GMT -5
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Post by Jack on Jun 5, 2007 22:08:04 GMT -5
Hey Jakub, long time no see. :-)
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Post by Miles on Jun 5, 2007 22:09:17 GMT -5
Ugh. Jack.  |
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Post by Trina on Jun 5, 2007 22:11:32 GMT -5
Wow, your spy list is totally different from mine haha. Well I guess it makes sense but I am sure someone has a lot of pull and knows a lot and they are a spy. That's why I fear that the inactives or the "sheep" aren't really spies.
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Post by Judith on Jun 5, 2007 22:16:05 GMT -5
 No Bebe on that list!!!
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Post by Jakub on Jun 5, 2007 22:22:25 GMT -5
ive been lurking around here sense the start of the game. at least now i have a lot of people to play with. weeeee!
am pissed they went after you, though. them spies are running one hell of a show. maybe had you gone after bebe instead of miles last round. what happened to that?
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Post by Jack on Jun 5, 2007 22:23:22 GMT -5
Bebe is iffy. I am unsure of her primarily because of Jessica. I dunno. It's probably a bit easier for you all to see from up here. I've had a lot of nonsense to deal with the past week.
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Post by Jack on Jun 5, 2007 22:24:38 GMT -5
ive been lurking around here sense the start of the game. at least now i have a lot of people to play with. weeeee! am pissed they went after you, though. them spies are running one hell of a show. maybe had you gone after bebe instead of miles last round. what happened to that? I didn't go after Miles. I just decided not to go after Bebe and instead someone else, mainly because of the flak I was getting. I figured it was better to take the risk of her being a Spy over the strong possibility that I'd be exiled. |
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Post by Jakub on Jun 5, 2007 22:38:41 GMT -5
clearly didnt work out for you in the long run
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Post by Jack on Jun 5, 2007 22:39:28 GMT -5
Nope. Probably the biggest mistake I made the entire game. Really threw me off, too.
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Post by Shane on Jun 5, 2007 23:26:16 GMT -5
Jack, I need to know... did you accidentally spill my role to the Burg? I told you willingly, as I trusted you, and you posted you had an anonymous source (me) who told you they had the role. But a few days later, almost everyone knew. Now, if you didn't spill it, then Bebe did. She was the only other person who knew, outside you and Anneliese. I placed her in your boat, I trusted you both the same. Maybe it was a mistake. I never once publicly acknowledged my ability til after it was leaked, and then I also told Raphael, and Trina to an extent about it.
I just want to put the pieces together...
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Post by Jack on Jun 5, 2007 23:32:47 GMT -5
Well, it was an accident because I misunderstood what you told me...
I thought you told me you were given a gift that allowed you to do that. After your penalty votes expired, someone said something like they were going to go after you next exile... I don't recall exactly. So I didn't really think there was a harm in telling people since it was just a gift that was used. But after I told Trina that you had been given a gift, she began saying she was going to have you exiled because she knew that that wasn't a valid gift. I don't know if she told anyone else about it, but I went back and realized I screwed up because you told me you had a role named the Decider, not a gift. So yeah, that was a pretty big screwup on my part.
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Post by Trina on Jun 5, 2007 23:35:01 GMT -5
That round made me soooo suspicious of you and Shane altogether. 20 mintues after we ended the conversation, it seemed like you conjured up a whole conversation and revealed your mistake lol. I was soooo suspicious. It screwed me up so much because I was in direct contact with Taylor the whole game and trying to figure everything out and tehn bam, a SECOND gift giver? it didn't make sense to me.
I told several people about my suspicions about you and shane right after you revealed the he was the decision maker to me. I talked to Claire and Bruce really and they really picked up on that suspciion of you two.
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Post by Shane on Jun 5, 2007 23:38:25 GMT -5
I see. Well, damn.
I wonder what would have occurred if that mistake never happened... would I have been Imprisoned?
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Post by Trina on Jun 5, 2007 23:45:24 GMT -5
I just realized Shane you weren't in the chat when the discussion was brought up. I've posted the conversation for you. in fact, jessica wanted me to show this to her and i refused saying I didn't have what she was talking about lol. i'll highlight things for ya. 9:45:24 PM spies3trina: Can i ask what the role of SHANE was n that as well
9:45:28 PM spies3trina: he's at the top of my suspicion behind jen9:45:28 PM spies3anneliese: Immediately she was acting weird. - "Wait, so you have a citizen's ability? oh - ok - oh - ok" 9:45:29 PM spies3trina: not jack 9:45:32 PM spies3anneliese: so I gave her the wrong word 9:45:41 PM spies3anneliese: then throughout the lie variants I gave of my power 9:45:46 PM spies3jack: Shane was the one who protected us9:45:53 PM spies3anneliese: Jenn came to believe that as long as my bunker was not destroyed, I was immune from Imprisonment 9:45:54 PM spies3jack: He had 6 penalty votes that showed up only if he was exiled.
9:46:02 PM spies3jack: Now that the exile is over, it's safe to say it now.9:46:10 PM spies3anneliese: this week the night of Imprisonment she asked me "What's your word so I can post it before imprisonment?" 9:46:18 PM spies3jack: It was a gift, not a role9:46:21 PM spies3tenchi: Too bad Jenn cannot confirm anything. I didn even get to ask her to confirm that. I really hope you did Jack. 9:46:32 PM spies3trina: a gift he got form whom???9:46:38 PM spies3reicheru: DON'T ANSWER THAT. 9:46:40 PM spies3reicheru: Seriously. 9:46:42 PM spies3anneliese: Now WHY would someone ask for my word before Imprisonment unless they thought destroying my bunker lost me immunity? 9:47:01 PM spies3trina: jack if you wont say it in the burg, say it to me in private then9:47:06 PM spies3jack: Well on top of that, she started trying to exile you, Anneliese 9:47:18 PM spies3jack: That's what confirmed my vote on her. 9:47:35 PM spies3jack: Seems kind of convenient to try to exile someone you think can't be imprisoned, but I don't know 9:47:42 PM spies3jack: Trina - why do you want to know?
9:47:49 PM spies3jack: That seems like a perfect opportunity for spies to eliminate someone
9:47:53 PM spies3jack: Someone of great value
9:48:03 PM spies3trina: because the gift is important
9:48:08 PM spies3trina: I Know about ALL 4 gifts
9:48:11 PM spies3trina: if shane is lying about a gift
9:48:13 PM spies3trina: I WOULD know
9:48:22 PM spies3trina: but then again, im not the gift giver so it doesnt matter
9:48:22 PM spies3jack: How is the name going to help you?
9:48:31 PM spies3trina: you said shane earlier jack didnt u
9:48:35 PM spies3trina: shane protect you guys
9:48:38 PM spies3jack: Yes
9:48:40 PM spies3trina: and he said he received a Gift
9:48:44 PM spies3jack: Yes
9:48:46 PM spies3trina: well if there is only one gift giver
9:48:52 PM spies3trina: and can only give two gifts per round
9:48:56 PM spies3trina: and i know what the gifts are
9:49:01 PM spies3tenchi: Two gifts?
9:49:03 PM spies3trina: then where the hell did the third gift come from!9:49:10 PM spies3claire: how do you know of the gifts?
9:49:23 PM spies3anneliese: When did Shane say he got a gift?
9:49:23 PM spies3jack: The matching one, the role checking one, and the protection?
9:49:32 PM spies3jack: Trina, didn't you also say you were given immunity this round?
9:49:32 PM spies3trina: jack said shane got a gift
9:49:37 PM spies3trina: no i was given last round
9:49:39 PM spies3bruce: i have a question; did jenn actually come to anyone bringing up anneliese's name for the exile vote? 9:49:39 PM spies3trina: episode 3
9:49:47 PM spies3jack: Yes
9:49:54 PM spies3trina: episode 3 - two gifts
9:49:56 PM spies3jack: She brought it up to me and Shane
9:49:57 PM spies3trina: episode 4 - two gifts
9:50:04 PM spies3bruce: shane told me that he was suspicious of her because of that, but when i tried to draw her out she didbn't bite
9:50:24 PM spies3jack: Umm
9:50:25 PM spies3jack: Wow
9:50:27 PM spies3jack: Jennipher is IMing me
9:50:37 PM spies3trina: how can i be the gift giver
9:50:40 PM spies3trina: if i was given a gift
9:50:42 PM spies3trina: by them lol
9:50:52 PM spies3trina: just to let everyone know
9:51:01 PM spies3trina: and i asked people if they were SANTA clause for goodness sake9:51:05 PM spies3claire: what is jenn saying? and shouldn't she be offline? 9:51:12 PM spies3taylor: she should be offline 9:51:27 PM spies3jack: That's what I thought 9:51:31 PM spies3jack: She said Sam said she could stay online 9:51:34 PM spies3anneliese: Yes. 9:51:44 PM spies3anneliese: She keeps harrassing me lol 9:51:49 PM spies3anneliese: "Are you happy? Rah rah" 9:51:55 PM spies3jack: Yeah...
9:51:55 PM spies3jack: Heh
9:51:57 PM spies3jack: Anyways
9:51:59 PM spies3jack: Gifts9:52:01 PM spies3anneliese: Yes Jenn, I'm TOTALLY a Spy and I laughed to see your ass leave! MUAHAHAH! 9:52:07 PM spies3anneliese: *eyeroll smiley* 9:52:17 PM spies3jack: Do we know that only 2 gifts can be given?
9:52:23 PM spies3jack: I might've missed that being said somewhere9:52:37 PM spies3trina: ok i lied about everything ! 9:52:39 PM spies3trina: sorry yall 9:52:49 PM spies3anneliese: ... 9:52:51 PM spies3jack: Define "everything" 9:52:52 PM spies3anneliese: *confused* 9:52:53 PM spies3anneliese: lol 9:52:58 PM spies3anneliese: HER ENTIRE LIFE! 9:52:58 PM spies3trina: i lied a lot in this game. Im a spy Rawr! 9:52:59 PM spies3anneliese: BURN THE WITCH 9:53:05 PM spies3matthew: ok im about to post my mind on the board = P lol 9:53:25 PM spies3miles: 9:53:26 PM spies3anneliese: Jenn and I are having a catfight 9:53:31 PM spies3anneliese: and she still doesn't get what I'm saying 9:53:51 PM spies3matthew: spies3.proboards81.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=burg399&thread=1179885174 feel free to read it... or not.. your choice 9:54:46 PM spies3jack: Ok, so
9:54:48 PM spies3jack: Again
9:54:53 PM spies3jack: Do we know that only 2 gifts can be given?
9:55:15 PM spies3bruce: can we really know anything for sure? 9:55:15 PM spies3anneliese: spies3Jennipher (9:54:30 PM): Good luck with your witch hunt, spy 9:55:18 PM spies3anneliese: OH SNAP! 9:55:18 PM spies3anneliese: lol 9:55:29 PM spies3trina: jack the only person who can answer that is the gift giver...and i hope the gift giver wll not to talk to you abou tit
9:55:35 PM spies3trina: cuz all you want is information
9:55:39 PM spies3trina: and you're running this game!
9:55:45 PM spies3anneliese: Jesus Christ.
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Post by Trina on Jun 5, 2007 23:47:01 GMT -5
Keep in mind that taylor was in the chat this whole time and I spoke for her all the time. We makes me so mad that she thought I was a spy still grrr lol.
anyways, thats why i thought shane was a spy because i knew all about the gifts and wanted the information so badly from jack because things did not click at all especially if shane received one. But it was a bit too late for Jack to redeem what he said because after he told me shane got gifts, he quickly thought shane was a spy then 20 mintues later, told me he was wrong rather abruptly and the conversation ended lol. Just hope this clears things up.
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Post by Shane on Jun 5, 2007 23:54:05 GMT -5
Haha, simple mistake. Hopefully we can save whatever we may have lost though...
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Post by Jack on Jun 6, 2007 8:17:29 GMT -5
Not sure how things would have worked out if that slip hadn't come out... Probably would have wound up with Anneliese being imprisoned that round or something.
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