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Post by Trina on Jun 5, 2007 23:21:52 GMT -5
Vote2gether4JessicaDoNotStrayAwayVotewithTaylorJordanBruce
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Post by Judith on Jun 5, 2007 23:24:50 GMT -5
^ Does that work? (mine)
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Post by Carrie on Jun 5, 2007 23:25:00 GMT -5
I know Jessica is pretty high on most of our lists, but are us losers in agreement that she's the most likely spy? I still don't understand what happened with Bebe and Jack.
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Post by Judith on Jun 5, 2007 23:26:32 GMT -5
noSTRAYvotingORthatsAspyVOTEjessicaTHENtargetNEWcomersONLY+LETbruceJORDANtaylorDECIDEendGAME
I like it!
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Post by Trina on Jun 5, 2007 23:27:35 GMT -5
its really tough to really pinpoint a single person. I feel that she is the most quiet and fake during the exile chats. Even Reicheru pointed it out int he last exile lol. But I still don't understand Bebe as well. Jack was in the game for much longer but also remember that Jack's attempt to get a spy out failed numerous times so his assumption on people is no better than ours. (no offense jack).
So its up to us as a group to decide but personally and i guess i can speak for judith as well, jessica is pretty high up there, considering bruce's actions these past days.
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Post by Carrie on Jun 5, 2007 23:28:39 GMT -5
I hope that's a joke, there's no reason to target anybody soley because of the group they came from.
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Post by Trina on Jun 5, 2007 23:29:32 GMT -5
lol...yeah judith. don't solely target newcomers lol....thats not a good idea lol.
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Post by Judith on Jun 5, 2007 23:30:24 GMT -5
I have based it off of what the Judge said, Carrie, and the fact that the original group was full of bandwagonning; 1 spy in there would mean that bandwagoning would make sense - no spy could be defended by another spy!
EDIT: Sam stated that he meant to say "NEW"
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Post by Judith on Jun 5, 2007 23:32:03 GMT -5
I think that Jessica is the only spy in the original group. I really do, dears!
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Post by Carrie on Jun 5, 2007 23:33:34 GMT -5
I understand what Sam said, but I don't see how that makes you believe that there is 1 spy in our group and 4 in the new group. Suspicions based on ridiculous odds like this, rows, or gender are part of what's brought the spies so close to victory.
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Post by Jack on Jun 5, 2007 23:34:31 GMT -5
I agree with Carrie, here. In fact, I was a culprit of that myself for a long while.
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Post by Jakub on Jun 5, 2007 23:34:36 GMT -5
i think im going to just go ahead and abstain from this, seeing as im going off of second hand information and never even met the majority of the people in the game. ill defer to those who know what the hell theyre talking about
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Post by Trina on Jun 5, 2007 23:36:28 GMT -5
**cough** the rows thing **cough cough* lol
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Post by Shane on Jun 5, 2007 23:50:13 GMT -5
CONFIRMED Jordan, Taylor lead vote. Straying away equals SPY. Vote TOGETHER. Bruce plans endgame.
14 words. 98 character.
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Post by Judith on Jun 5, 2007 23:56:15 GMT -5
Wonderful, Shane! The "Bruce plans endgame" hopefully won't make them think we are saying Bruce is a spy planning their demise!!
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Post by Carrie on Jun 6, 2007 0:01:43 GMT -5
CONFIRMED Jordan, Taylor lead vote. Straying away = SPY. Vote TOGETHER. Let Bruce plan endgame.
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Post by Trina on Jun 6, 2007 0:01:47 GMT -5
I am just reluctant to have Bruce, who isn't in anyway confirmed plan the "endgame." As much as I feel Bruce is not a spy, we are not definitely sure.
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Post by Shane on Jun 6, 2007 0:03:52 GMT -5
Maybe we can do something like "we support Bruce." To let them know we agree, but don't trust fully. I don't know...
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Post by Shane on Jun 6, 2007 0:11:32 GMT -5
CONFIRMED Jordan/Taylor lead vote. Straying = SPY. Vote TOGETHER. We support UNCONFIRMED Bruce.
15 words, 96 characters.
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Post by Carrie on Jun 6, 2007 0:52:58 GMT -5
True, we can't completely trust Bruce but we have no other viable option at this point. He is who we trust the most out of the unconfirmeds and he is much more competent than Jordan/Taylor. The citizen's fate depends upon the Bruce, kinda like Braveheart.
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Post by Shane on Jun 6, 2007 0:54:36 GMT -5
FREEDOM!!!! Err... sorry.
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Post by Jakub on Jun 6, 2007 0:58:48 GMT -5
i dont know if this was ever mentioned anywhere, but something just struck me. were all fairly certain that taylor is the gift giver, but could the spy be the gift giver? spies can have roles, and i havent seen any sign of a spy role yet. the only thing that makes me want to say no is the bunker. if taylor gave it to anne, why not just give it to a spy to neutralize it? but again its one of those oddball out of left field kind of plays that would be genius if they worked.
just my mind wandering
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Post by Trina on Jun 6, 2007 6:53:12 GMT -5
I doubt that Taylor is a spy. It would be such a huge advantage to the spies if they were and judging from sam's comments about taylor in this forum, it is most likely she's just a citizen. I was very close to her at the beginning of the game and I know she is not a spy because she told me the truth about gifts and stuff.
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Post by Trina on Jun 6, 2007 6:55:51 GMT -5
CONFIRMED Jordan/Taylor lead vote. Straying = SPY. Vote TOGETHER. We support UNCONFIRMED Bruce.
I like this one that Shane puts. If we can somehow indicate who they should target this round then it be better. Remember it is important to give them a direction on the first go and then let them take it from there. From this message, it seems like they will be basing it off of nothing and just having Jordan, taylor, bruce vote together. We have to make sure people vote together but for a target we feel is reasonable.
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Post by Jack on Jun 6, 2007 8:23:22 GMT -5
Anneliese didn't get the bunker from Taylor, it was a role called The Builder. I don't think Taylor is a Spy simply because of the matching gift she used on Trina/Anneliese... But I guess there are some flaws with that line of thinking as well.
Oh, I like Shane's latest one. I think it might be good enough.
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Post by Anneliese on Jun 6, 2007 12:13:54 GMT -5
Actually Jakub brings up an excellent point. We KNOW there is at least one spy ability out there... But the only ability left in the game that we know about is Taylor's... What if she really is a spy? It's a great cover... Sam said himself he was thinking about using the Do or Die ability for a spy, why not give the Gift Giver to a spy? And if Taylor and Bebe are working together, then they let Trina find them and totally play her the whole game. It would be a terrible cruel trick.
I DON'T want Taylor trusted to make this final decision, especially after turning on her coalition. I think (And don't kill me for saying this) we should tell everyone to follow REICHERU.
She's been wrong before, but I have a feeling if she just tries she'll nail it on the head.
In my head it's either we follow Reicheru or we follow Bruce and I WON'T support anything other than that. Jordan doesn't know what he's doing.
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Post by Carrie on Jun 6, 2007 14:52:39 GMT -5
Spy or not, I don't think any of us trust Taylor or Jordan to make the right decision. The problem is that it's so late in the game that we don't have much of a choice. We have to hope that Bruce can get them to act sensibly.
As far as Reicheru......no, just no. Didn't someone say that she's just about given up. She was also one of the primary reasons that myself, Judith and Jennipher were exiled so I don't know how willing the citizens will be to follow her lead.
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Post by Anneliese on Jun 6, 2007 15:43:24 GMT -5
Well... I was responsible for Jennipher's exile... Rei was responsible for Judith's... And a lot for yours, but mostly that was Jessica...
I'd say ultimately Judith was repsonsible for Jakub's exile...
Yes, Rei played a part in all of those (except Jennipher's I guess)... But really, I would rather the citizens follow someone we 1. KNOW is a citizen, and 2. Actually THINKS before they act, and will be able to lead a rise against the spies.
Reicheru is the ONLY one that fits the bill... And if not her, it needs to be Bruce.
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Post by Judith on Jun 6, 2007 17:41:25 GMT -5
Reicheru was DEFINITELY the reason Jakub went, dear! She convinced me, and we both went out and asked about. I kind of enforced ideas Reicheru presented to me in the tie breaker. It was definitely Reicheru.
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Post by Trina on Jun 6, 2007 17:42:43 GMT -5
I unfortunately have to agree with Anneliese on this. As much as Reicheru really messed up a lot of votes, I can really count on her more than taylor and jordan. Those two are just worthless really lol. Bruce, I would put ahead of Reicheru but he is not confirmed. Reicheru is confirmed via Anneleise's ability so thats where I out my trust in.
But I fear that people will not vote with Reicheru since she has been wrong so many times. But personally I like Shane but we need to tell the burg to target one person and let the leaders handle the next few rounds.
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