One Last Message of Hope to the Citizens

[Carrie]

My point isn't that we can count on Taylor/Jordan more than Rei, but that we HAVE to. Like Trina said, people probably won't be willing to follow Reicheru. On the other hand, Taylor is pretty much confirmed and despite our lack of faith in her competency she is the best chance we have. The citizens don't trust Rei or Bruce and Jordan has gone inactive.

[Anneliese]

None of us will be able to agree upon who to tell the citizens to trust, so we have to agree on who we want them to exile.


At this point from what I've heard, we either go for Bebe, Jessica, or Arthur.

So enough telling people who to follow since we can't agree, why don't we decide on who to exile?


My vote is for Bebe, to be honest...

[Judith]

Of course I would love to say Bebe, as well, but I'm thinking maybe Jessica. If they take out another person from the original group, maybe they'll finally set their sites on the newcomers, because it seems like people are working on one group (like Sam said) until they get one. Plus, Bruce and I think a few others here are doubting Bebe's spyhood which makes no sense to me BUT maybe it has logic. I want to say Bebe, but logically, Jessica seems like a good choice. Really, I'm open to either option.

[Trina]

I would like either Bebe or Jessica but logically, after what happened with Jack and Bruce plan to vote Bebe, i have to say Jessica. She has been playing like she is not a spy and is the most logical choice in my eyes. The push for her is best.

[Judith]

Can't we just say Enjoy losing; you did nothing to help us.

[Trina]

well we have to come up with something quick because imprisonment is tomorrow.

So we tell them to target jess and everyone vote together. i say use Shane's thing if possible.

[Judith]

CONFIRMEDJordan/Taylor lead vote.Straying=SPY.VoteTOGETHER.We supportUNCONFIRMEDBruce.VoteJess.

[Trina]

i like that Judith.

I hope people understnad the "straying" idea.

[Anneliese]

I like that message also.

[Jack]

Looks good to me.

[Anneliese]

Although... I'll bring up again that there is a chance the Gift Giver could be a spy... Perhaps we shouldn't include Taylor in the message?

[Jack]

We could exclude Taylor and wait and see if Jordan is imprisoned. That's my biggest worry.

[Carrie]

There's also the risk that Jordan will remain to be inactive. We have no choice but to put our faith in Taylor.

[Jakub]

i say we go with it. if i thought the citz had a reasonable chance of winning id be anal with every little detail. but lets face it: they cant afford one more screw up, theyre running around like chickens with their heads cut off, and most of them just dont seem to give a damn anymore. the time for perfectionism has long since past

[Anneliese]

I would rather not tell the citizens to follow ANYONE, and just tell them "VOTE JESSICA. STRAY = SPY"

The fact is that if TAYLOR isn't Imprisoned this week, then I don't see how she isn't a spy... EVERYONE KNOWS she's the gift giver... So for her to not be imprisoned before she can give out more stuff is a pretty blatant sign that something's sketchy.


I refuse to approve any method that leaves Taylor as the sole source of the citizen's winning. It could be a kamikaze act... Even if Taylor is a citizen she's known for not listening to a damn thing and going insane before exiles.

[Anneliese]

Did anyone notice how Sam sort of gave a hint about spy identities when he made that thread?


It's obviously meant to help us in some way... I think he said there were like 4 girls as spies, or that had attitudes of spies.


If I'm not mistaken, the remaining females are:


Reicheru, Jessica, Taylor, Bebe, and Claire... Well since I know Reicheru isn't a spy, I find it pretty clear that if there are 4 female spies as Sam has hinted, then they are indeed Jessica, Taylor, Bebe, and Claire...

Although if he was talking SIMPLY personality-wise, I would not be surprised to see Tenchi turn out to be a spy. He was always very "Keep your mind in the game" when I dealt with him...


ANYWAY, I still think we shouldn't tell the citizens who to trust, just who to eliminate.

[Shane]

I've learned not to take everything Sam says literally.

[Jakub]

sam is very careful with his words, he wouldnt give us something that huge. he was probably just speaking metaphorically. although it could have been a freudian slip ;p

[Trina]

Let me reitterate that taylor is not a spy. I'm positive of it. To think she is a spy is total bullcrock guys. She is just not a good player that is ismply it and there is probably another spy ability that we don't know about.

Taylor has told me the truth every step of the way as to who received a gift and who did this and that. Out of everyone here in the burg, I knew Taylor the best. If you guys trust me, then I assure you Taylor is not a spy.

Annelliese for you to say

refuse to approve any method that leaves Taylor as the sole source of the citizen's winning. It could be a kamikaze act... Even if Taylor is a citizen she's known for not listening to a damn thing and going insane before exiles.

is pretty selfish and is probably why the game is difficult because people aren't willing to listen. Leave things as they are and whatever hapepns hapepns. But I assure you guys, Taylor is not a spy and I am the only one capalbe really of saying htat.

-Trina

PS.

She's just a dumb player like i said <_<

[Trina]

I'm going to take the official head and say Sam...

With Jack, Jakub, Myself, Judith, Carrie approving this message, and Anneliese "against" i suppose cause it includes Taylor

we are probably going to submit

CONFIRMEDJordan/Taylor lead vote.Straying=SPY.VoteTOGETHER.We supportUNCONFIRMEDBruce.VoteJess.

[Trina]

We sitll have a couple of hours to deliberate but we only have like 2 hours but if no one says anything, then just take the above message.

[Jakub]

trina said:

To think she is a spy is total bullcrock guys. She is just not a good player that is ismply it

there have been spies who werent good players. do i think shes a spy? the odds are against it. but its a distinct possibility

[Judge Sam]

CONFIRMEDJordan/Taylor lead vote.Straying=SPY.VoteTOGETHER.We supportUNCONFIRMEDBruce.VoteJess.


We're doing that?

[Jack]

Sure

[Anneliese]

I would really appreciate if we left the first 5 words out of there... but if everyone else thinks so, then go ahead. Jordan's gone now anyway.

[Trina]

the original is fine. we can even get rid of "jordan" but pretty much the message is the same. God i hope this works.

[Anneliese]

And Trina, I really don't think me not trusting Trina is selfish, I think it's accurate... She voted for me to be exiled even though you two were the closest in the game and apparently she trusted you 100%... That doesn't add up to me. Then we added her into the coalition and she helps exile Jack next? It still doesn't add up and is one of the sketchiest moments of the game.

The fact that 3 of the 5 members of the coalition have left in a row, to me, just seems very odd... And unless Reicheru was able to get Imagine and Tyler to post the words I gave her, all hands point to Taylor being some type of rat or admitting unnecessary information, which she is definitely guilty of.

I trust your judgment, but for me to trust her to lead us to victory would just be foolish in my book...

[Anneliese]

*Edit* The 2nd Trina was meant to say Taylor... sorry

[Jakub]

go for it sammy

[Trina]

Let me correct you on that Anneliese. She only voted you to disprove me. She felt like you were a citizen but was suspicious of me becuase I did some shady things (lying about ability and telling people not to vote you) which made her suspicious of me. Everyone felt (because of the spy rankings) that I was the most citizenlike so its tough for Taylor to get votes for me. Since she matched us both, she wanted to know for sure if I could be trusted, thus the campaigning for you.

I feel that was stupid on her part and I agree with you that she isn't the most reliable in a situation like this. But because she is the Gift Giver and gave me a gift first off, as well as Bruce, Raphael, herself, Brooks, and told me what each one was, and didn't lie about it, it just makes her unspylike. Most spies would just lie but she didn't to me.

And I feel the vote on Jack was probably based on hate. Jack was not confirmed at all to me when I was in the game and I fear that some, including Taylor were still skeptic about the point thing that went on. With Jack adding to the revealation that Taylor is the gift giver, and the fact that he argued with Taylor earlier on in the day, I feel that vote was based on emotions rather than strategy..hence again another stupid movie. BUT she is the only confirmed one for sure, besides Reicheru according to you so we have to let her decide .

I apologize also for calling you selfish because I fear that was too harsh of a thing to say but it was these kind of accusations that really affected the citizens a lot in the game along with things such as outright calling Miles a spy because he "faked" an ability.