ReicheruI haven't posted other conversations, but this is one of the better ones.8:59 AM
spies3Reicheru: Konichiwa, bishounen.
spies3Reicheru: You will excuse me if I am not as hopeful as usual...
spies3Tenchi: Rei-chan...
spies3Reicheru: I know.
spies3Tenchi: One of us is a spy.
spies3Tenchi: Annie told five of us.
spies3Tenchi: the word.
spies3Tenchi: And why do we only have six points.
spies3Reicheru: I miss this exile's, but I post the last two.
spies3Reicheru: Annie only told me the new word late, and I am in so many conversations I forget to post before exile.
spies3Reicheru: So that makes thirteen.
spies3Reicheru: However, I do get previous two.
spies3Tenchi: this is confusing
spies3Tenchi: Becuase I posted two
spies3Tenchi: Jack claims he posted one.
spies3Tenchi: Does annie's posts count?
spies3Tenchi: ?
spies3Reicheru: I posted two.
spies3Reicheru: I imagine hers do count.
spies3Tenchi: Then one of us is lying?
spies3Reicheru: Well what if they do not?
spies3Reicheru: If one other person made one post...
spies3Tenchi: then that makes six... Jack posted one.
spies3Tenchi: Plus either Jenn and Jessica
spies3Tenchi: Sorry
spies3Tenchi: If Annie's do not count: (1) Jack + 2 (Tenchi) + 2 (Rei) + 1(Jenn/Jess)
spies3Tenchi: Otherwise, one of us is lying.
spies3Tenchi: Or worst case, Annie's role is BS, but I doubt that.
spies3Reicheru: No, I dismiss that.
spies3Reicheru: It made no sense before the new arrivals - 27 is too much.
spies3Reicheru: I actually thought, "you would need twice as many people".
spies3Reicheru: And now we have them.
spies3Reicheru: If she made ti up, she would go for much lower number.
spies3Tenchi: Bit its still kinda high. We only have six.
spies3Reicheru: I will check mine...
spies3Tenchi: ?
spies3Reicheru: NO WAIT.
spies3Reicheru: I did not post episode one either.
spies3Reicheru: I only post second episode.
spies3Reicheru: So I actually only have ONE.
spies3Tenchi: ?
spies3Reicheru: I forget to post in third episode
spies3Reicheru: And I check my confessional, I do not post there in first episode.
spies3Reicheru: Oh hold on... wait a minute...
spies3Tenchi:
spies3Reicheru: I think I put it in text that time
spies3Reicheru: instead of putting it in a separate confessional.
spies3Tenchi: oh ok.
spies3Reicheru: Yes, I DID post.
spies3Reicheru: I thoguth so...
spies3Reicheru: ANNELIESE - is definitely not a passive spy. If she's an aggressive one, which is possible, she stands a good chance of winning. Her role is believable, flexible and imaginative enough to keep the cits wanting her around. I must admit to some SKEPTICISM regarding this but will try not to be too SKEPTICAL unless it looks like she's lying.
spies3Reicheru: From my confessional.
spies3Reicheru: In episode two, I used separate thread.
spies3Tenchi: lol Thats what I did
spies3Tenchi: And I just posted the word alone.
spies3Tenchi: Title SKEPTICAL and just the word after that.
spies3Reicheru: Question: it's spelt wrong.
spies3Reicheru: Does it have to be spelt with a K instead of a C?
spies3Reicheru: It should be spelt "sceptical" and I was careful to stick to Anneliese's spelling.
spies3Tenchi: ><
spies3Tenchi: Oh my
spies3Tenchi: this is confusing ><
spies3Tenchi: Both are valid.
spies3Tenchi: the one with a C is british.
spies3Reicheru: Ah.
spies3Tenchi: ><
spies3Reicheru: No, they are both valid.
spies3Reicheru: Like "Inquiry" and "Enquiry".
spies3Tenchi: Yeah.
spies3Tenchi: I said that.
spies3Reicheru: So does the spelling matter?
spies3Tenchi: I hope not.
spies3Tenchi: Could be
spies3Tenchi: Im not sure.
spies3Reicheru: Well assuming everyone spells it with "k", where does that leave us?
spies3Reicheru: I still have two, you have two, Jack has one...
spies3Reicheru: Anneliese, assuming her own posts do not matter...
spies3Reicheru: Jenn and jessica, one has not posted.
spies3Tenchi: Well why? One of them is a spy
spies3Tenchi: or one of them is sceptical
spies3Reicheru: Or one forgot to post.
spies3Reicheru: Each of us did, do not forget.
spies3Tenchi: Well I forgot the peisode three one, which give me two.
spies3Reicheru: So hold on... I was counting you as two.
spies3Reicheru: Are you saying you post three?
spies3Reicheru: Or just two.
spies3Reicheru: ?
spies3Tenchi: I posted only two.
spies3Tenchi: I forgot the Episode Three one.
spies3Reicheru: Ah.
spies3Tenchi: Sorry for the bad typing.
spies3Reicheru: I see.
spies3Reicheru: Don't go and do something stupid like posting this in the burg...
spies3Reicheru: That will put target on ALL our backs.
spies3Reicheru: It occurred to me before I realise what it means.
spies3Tenchi: I know...
spies3Tenchi: but how do we know which one of us five is lying?
spies3Tenchi: It could be possible that that bunker was destoryed thats why we have the low count.
spies3Reicheru: It may not be lying.
spies3Reicheru: I think Jenn or Jess may simply forget to post.
spies3Reicheru: After all, you, me and Jack all forgot at least one post.
spies3Reicheru: Why does one of them not forget also?
spies3Reicheru: So let us not assume one of us HAS to be a spy before considering the facts.
spies3Tenchi: ><
spies3Reicheru: If they both claim to post, of course, then we will have to reconsider...
spies3Tenchi: I was hoping that.
spies3Reicheru: In that case, one of us HAS to be deliberately lying.
spies3Tenchi: I hope not!
spies3Tenchi: I have shared tons of Info with Jack already! and you...
spies3Reicheru: I am not a spy and I do not believe you are a spy.
spies3Reicheru: But after Judith...
spies3Reicheru: That was, I mean this sincerely, horrible.
spies3Tenchi: I know... ><
spies3Tenchi: Well I had to go for my evidence too! I had to take a chance.
spies3Reicheru: So how do we safeguard Anneliese now?
spies3Tenchi: That I do not know. :-(
spies3Tenchi: I dont have a power that can protect her.
spies3Reicheru: Nor do I.
spies3Tenchi: So we just hope somebody else protects her?
spies3Tenchi: QAfter all, everything is public.
spies3Reicheru: I do not know what can happen to protect her.
spies3Reicheru: Listen, I will be back in a minute, i am going to talk to Bebe for a moment now.
spies3Tenchi: okok
spies3Reicheru: OK well I disappear now, I am sorry to leave you.Oyasumi and I will see you soon.
spies3Tenchi:
spies3Tenchi: :-(
spies3Tenchi: I will see you tomorrow :-(
spies3Reicheru: I may see you again tonight, but if not, tomorrow for sure.
Monday, May 21, 2007
8:13 AM
spies3Reicheru: Konichiwa.
spies3Tenchi: Rei-chan...
spies3Reicheru: So, both of us are safe from imprisonment, thanks to Anneliese.
spies3Reicheru: Somehow I find it hard to feel grateful.
spies3Tenchi: Yeah
spies3Tenchi: for the first time.
spies3Tenchi: ...
spies3Tenchi: I really find it offending this had to happen.
spies3Tenchi: I feel that Annie could be lying...
spies3Tenchi: but I dont want to think about it.
spies3Reicheru: I just do not understand it.
spies3Reicheru: Personally I do not htink Annie is lying.
spies3Reicheru: But I do not understand why she would post in the Burg.
spies3Reicheru: That makes no sense to me...
spies3Reicheru: But then neither does much else at the moment.
spies3Tenchi: ><
spies3Reicheru: Has Jack spoken to you about my actions last exile?
spies3Tenchi: No.
spies3Tenchi: From my point of view you were silent. We didnt discuss much at that time.
spies3Tenchi: I just went on with Annie's idea and my own personal suspcions.
spies3Reicheru: Not Annie's idea.
spies3Reicheru: Mine.
spies3Tenchi:
spies3Reicheru: I was single-handedly responsible for five votes against Judith, including the three accusations.
spies3Reicheru: Who do you think told Annie, who told Jack, who told you?
spies3Reicheru: Who do you think accused Judith last exile when she got one accusation vote?
spies3Reicheru: Tenchi... it is all me.
spies3Tenchi: Are you telling me youre a spy?
spies3Reicheru: I spend almost two days telling anyone who shows any suspicion of Judith to contact you, Carrie and Jack.
spies3Reicheru: No, I am telling you I deliberately lied about my suspicions of Judith.
spies3Reicheru: I knew she was spy.
spies3Reicheru: I didn't THINK it, I KNEW it.
spies3Reicheru: I do my best to get everyone who is against Judith together.
spies3Reicheru: And when you suggest you might vote Jenn instead,
spies3Reicheru: I send Anneliese to persuade you to keep voting Judith. She did, didn't she?
spies3Tenchi: She did.
spies3Reicheru: In the meantime, Judith is convinced I am on her side.
spies3Reicheru: I vote for Carrie, as I promise her I will...
spies3Reicheru: In the meantime she gives me as much information as she can
spies3Reicheru: I think to keep her trusting me.
spies3Reicheru: And we get a split vote.
spies3Reicheru: The spy - Judith - goes anyway.
spies3Reicheru: We see exactly who votes for her.
spies3Reicheru: And who votes against her.
spies3Reicheru: And I have lots of information direct from a spy's mouth.
spies3Reicheru: That was my genius plan.
spies3Reicheru: Of course, I still have all that information... a lot of use it is now.
spies3Reicheru: Keep what I tell you about the accusation secret... as for the rest, I do not care any more.
spies3Reicheru: I have taken out my most powerful ally because of a stupid mistake.
spies3Tenchi: And now Annie, Me and Jack look like assholes. ><
spies3Reicheru: Not your fault.
spies3Tenchi: Really, I was drowning in self loathing
spies3Reicheru: Hers.
spies3Reicheru: And mine.
spies3Tenchi: and now you tell me its your plan?
spies3Reicheru: Hai.
spies3Reicheru: You cannot feel any worse than I do right now.
spies3Reicheru: Annie practically commits hari-kiri... I have treated you and Jack disgracefully...
spies3Reicheru: and Judith and I, IRL, are or were friends.
spies3Reicheru: This is how I realise who she is.
spies3Reicheru: Whether that still applies or not, I do not know.
spies3Tenchi: *sigh*
spies3Reicheru: She defends me to the end... and I stab her in the back.
spies3Reicheru: And I persuade her friends to do the same... all on a conviction that turns out to be wrong.
spies3Reicheru: Tenchi-kun, I have no idea what to do.
spies3Reicheru: I have no idea who spies are.
spies3Reicheru: My only real suspects are Carrie, Jakub and Judith... and it looks like at least two and probably all three are citizen.
spies3Tenchi: Rei-chan
spies3Tenchi: we have to change our perspective
spies3Tenchi: those were you hunches in episode 1!
spies3Tenchi: Get out of the bunker and lets do something!
spies3Reicheru: Actually Carrie is all Anneliese...
spies3Reicheru: I have done something, I have effectively taken out, or helped to take out, two citizens
spies3Reicheru: And given spies a free ride last exile.
spies3Reicheru: I do not know if I trust myself to do anything else.
spies3Reicheru: This exile, assuming I am not the target, I will follow the crowd and hope someone has it right.
spies3Tenchi: ...
spies3Tenchi: Rei-chan dont give up.
spies3Reicheru: Believe me, I am not.
spies3Tenchi: After all this, somehow, I believe your words are true.
spies3Reicheru: I feel i owe it to Judith to find who the spies are.
spies3Reicheru: My intentions are good... it is judgement that I lack.
spies3Reicheru: This is how I feared it would be...
spies3Tenchi: Lets talk
spies3Tenchi: who are the suspects NOW?
spies3Reicheru: Well Judith suspects Bebe and Carrie...
spies3Reicheru: I do not know though... they are possible.
spies3Tenchi: I feel Carrie is a Cit
spies3Tenchi: have you tried giving her a chance?
spies3Reicheru: I have.
spies3Reicheru: And I agree.
spies3Reicheru: I think last time that Carrie is deliberatel framed, and only person who could do this is Judith.
spies3Reicheru: The Carrie vote was all hers, she persuades me and everyone else.
spies3Reicheru: But of course now Judith is gone, and a citizen...
spies3Tenchi: ><
spies3Tenchi: But...
spies3Tenchi: Hmm..
spies3Tenchi: Im thinking that Carrie is REALLY a citizen and that weve been killing ourselves far long enough.
spies3Tenchi: What do you think of the the following people: Trina, Bebe and Claire?
spies3Reicheru: Any could be spy.
spies3Reicheru: Judith trusts Claire, which means nothing...
spies3Tenchi: Yeah right!
spies3Reicheru: She suspects Bebe, which also means nothing.
spies3Tenchi: Judith was selling Claire to me!
spies3Tenchi: Did you knwo that?
spies3Reicheru: I did.
spies3Reicheru: I was in conversation with her the whole time, do not forget.
spies3Reicheru: I wanted as much information from her as possible.
spies3Reicheru: That way, when she is revealed as spy, we have a whole new lot of leads to follow.
spies3Tenchi: Okok.
spies3Tenchi: Then why did she sell Claire to me?
spies3Tenchi: If they were friends?
spies3Reicheru: Wait a minute and I will bring up my convos with Judith.
spies3Tenchi: Okok.
spies3Tenchi: I dont even know why she suspected Bebe, for a win? and for hanging out with Carrie?
spies3Reicheru: spies3Judith: Well I know Claire was an option that both Tenchi and Jack seemed interested in.
spies3Reicheru: spies3Judith: I told Shane that I suspected Bebe, and immediately Bebe found out! Shane also told me that Bebe is not suspicious and that I shouldn't worry about her. He also would not commit to voting for Carrie. ALSO, Brooks told me that Carrie and Bebe are VERY close, which is strange considering Carrie is rather inactive and has only just known of the newer players for a short time... unless she was a spy and knew her all along. Perhaps this is an angle that would work?
spies3Reicheru: spies3Judith: When I go, please, watch Bebe. For me.
spies3Reicheru: spies3Judith: Trina lied, and Jessica/Miles need to be watched.
spies3Reicheru: I do not know what Trina is supposed to have lied about... Judith never says to me.
spies3Reicheru: spies3Judith: She [Jessica] is falling for Bebe's "JUDITH SUSPECTS ME BECAUSE SHE SAID I CHEATED" lies.
spies3Reicheru: OK...
spies3Reicheru: In other news, jess claims Jennipher forgot to post, and she makes sixtn vote.
spies3Reicheru: That means that me, you, Jack and Jessica can probably be trusted along with Anneliese.
spies3Reicheru: Jennipher is still a question mark.
spies3Reicheru: I am wondering if you are right about her and I am wrong all along.
spies3Tenchi: I have never trusted Jenn for her UNCANNY ability to withhold info.
spies3Tenchi: I will not repeat it.
spies3Tenchi: She is doing it again to me
spies3Tenchi: And the thing is
spies3Tenchi: it is the VERY same to brooks
spies3Tenchi: Look
spies3Tenchi: Brooks can look like a big mouth by exposing annie
spies3Tenchi: But he is smarter than you think
spies3Tenchi: Have you talked to him?
spies3Reicheru: Hai, a few times.
spies3Tenchi: And what did you get?
spies3Reicheru: Not much... he seems smart and citizen-like, as do most others.
spies3Tenchi: I know.
spies3Tenchi: But look how he posts at the board.
spies3Tenchi: I thought he was a nine year old girl who didnt understand the word "secret" and "do not post here"
spies3Tenchi: But he is more to that.
spies3Tenchi: spies3Tenchi: Why is Carrie more Spy-like for you?
spies3Brooks: I didn't see Judith as a spy at all
spies3Brooks: between the two I saw Carrie having a higher chance of being a spy
spies3Tenchi: Why?
spies3Tenchi: spies3Tenchi: Answer why.
spies3Brooks: I saw no spy qualities in Judith
spies3Tenchi: What spy qualities did you see in Carrie?
spies3Tenchi: (Damn, if you keep this hard for all of us, then I guess youre a damn spy just leeching information.)
spies3Tenchi: STOP DODGING THE DAMN QUESTION.
spies3Tenchi: spies3Brooks: I was replying to another im
spies3Brooks: your not the only person I am speaking to
spies3Brooks: I thought she was working with Bebe
spies3Brooks: who possibly could be a spy
spies3Tenchi: on what grounds?
spies3Tenchi: spies3Tenchi: Where did the thought come from?
spies3Brooks: I got a strange vibe speaking to her
spies3Brooks: Well when I was speaking to Carrie thursday night, right before she signed off she told me to message Bebe and continue speaking to her
spies3Brooks: Which seemed strange
spies3Tenchi: Right...
spies3Tenchi: its all about the vibe.
spies3Tenchi: Sorry, I really got pissed off with Brooks.
spies3Reicheru: No, that is ok.
spies3Reicheru: I speak to Anneliese now.
spies3Reicheru: I believe she seriously thinks i could be spy.
spies3Reicheru: I do not blame her, as I say to her...
spies3Tenchi: I say the same.
spies3Reicheru: About me?
spies3Tenchi: About Us.
spies3Tenchi: And I cannot blame her
spies3Reicheru: Ah, yes.
spies3Reicheru: Tenchi, in which episodes did you post Anneliese's bunker word?
spies3Reicheru: For example, i post first and second episode...
spies3Tenchi: I psted first ansd second
spies3Tenchi: I forgot to post in the thrid one.
9:55 AM
spies3Tenchi: However, I can confirm that this is the ONLY time in the entire game where the Spies’ Imprisonment will be thwarted… i
spies3Reicheru: W-o-w.
spies3Tenchi: Rei...
spies3Tenchi: I still love you.
spies3Reicheru: I hope you are not leading me on, TEnchi-kun...
spies3Tenchi: Sorry... ><
spies3Tenchi: :-)
spies3Tenchi: I knew you were real
spies3Reicheru: After all, if Anneliese is right, some of us have to be spies.
spies3Tenchi: Sam said it
spies3Tenchi: Im doubting Annie now.
spies3Tenchi: ><
spies3Tenchi: Rei chan...?
spies3Reicheru: I hear you.
spies3Reicheru: I have asked Anneliese to confirm that because we both posted the same word twice,
spies3Reicheru: that BOTH posts count.
spies3Reicheru: Because if not... that would mean we are both safe.
spies3Reicheru: Not others, yes, but we are.
spies3Tenchi: I know. But at least we get to stay for this exile. And the more damage we can do for Spies.
spies3Tenchi: They can only impriuson one of us
spies3Reicheru: Anneliese is short three posts.
spies3Reicheru: You me and her all post the same word twice.
spies3Reicheru: So if that second post doesn't count...
spies3Reicheru: That means that she actualy has EXACTLY SIX VOTES.
spies3Reicheru: In which case ALL OF US ARE SAFE apart from JEnnipher.
spies3Tenchi: I know.
spies3Tenchi: Wait
spies3Tenchi: OMG...?
spies3Tenchi: I thought Annies posts count?
spies3Reicheru: They do.
spies3Reicheru: She confirmed it.
spies3Reicheru: But if she, you and me have one INVALID post...
spies3Reicheru: Because we all posted "Skeptical" twice...
spies3Reicheru: Then that means that there are three posts that DON'T COUNT.
spies3Reicheru: SIX instead of NINE.
spies3Tenchi: ><
spies3Reicheru: And Anneliese has SIX POSTS, confirmed by Sam she says.
spies3Tenchi: Once every other episode?
spies3Reicheru: Perhaps... I ask Annelisee to check with Sam.
spies3Tenchi: Ok.
spies3Tenchi: But I think she could be lying about the whole thing
spies3Reicheru: No, I do not agree.
spies3Tenchi: Sam said this is the only time an Imprisonment would be thwarted.
spies3Reicheru: Here is why...
spies3Tenchi: ?
spies3Reicheru: She tells me in Episode One that she needs TWENTY SEVEN posts.
spies3Reicheru: That's a huge number supposing only fifteen players, right?
spies3Reicheru: But if there are almost thirty players... it makes more sense.
spies3Reicheru: Thing is, spy or citizen, she could not know about extra players.
spies3Reicheru: Sam makes this very clear that NOBODY knew.
spies3Reicheru: Therefore her ability makes no sense unless you factor in something she couldn't possibly know about when she is suposed to have "faked" it.
spies3Reicheru: That means her ability is GENUINE.
spies3Tenchi: Look at this
spies3Tenchi: Sam said that NOBODY ELSE COULD BE SAVED
spies3Tenchi: And form the looks of it
spies3Reicheru: Hai. I realise that.
spies3Tenchi: Somebody was save dby a Psychic
spies3Tenchi: WHich existed in TWO of Sams games
spies3Reicheru: Hai, that hapens in Spies 2 as well.
spies3Reicheru: And Anneliese knew...
spies3Tenchi: Then if there is no other way to save other people
spies3Tenchi: How could Annies role be even true?
spies3Reicheru: Not that it matters, now, since whoever psychic is, their power is obviously gone.
spies3Tenchi: Still, it clears us
spies3Tenchi: and its weird because
spies3Tenchi: Annie tried to pit you against me
spies3Tenchi: WHICH SUCKS
spies3Tenchi: but she failed
spies3Tenchi: because I knew I can rust you.
spies3Tenchi: *trust
spies3Reicheru: I see what you mean.
You mean, Anneliese claims her role will block imprisonments?
And now Sam has said it cannot?
spies3Reicheru: But she never says this outright.
spies3Tenchi: Then what did she say? That somebody "will be saved"?
spies3Reicheru: I am getting conversation transcript now...
spies3Reicheru: This is difficult, I do not post early conversations...
spies3Reicheru: So this will take some time.
spies3Tenchi: I will check the Burg
spies3Tenchi: My Special Role is the Builder. I can construct a bunker to save one person per episode, similar to the Nurse ability in a normal game of Mafia.
spies3Reicheru: OK she does not block ANY imrpisonment...
spies3Reicheru: She stops the spies from choosing one person.
spies3Reicheru: I still think Anneliese tells the truth.
spies3Reicheru: spies3Anneliese: and what happens if I acquire enough points, I can build a bunker to keep us safe
spies3Reicheru: That is how she puts it originally.
spies3Reicheru: Nothing about stopping imprisonments, but she does say "us" not "one person".
spies3Reicheru: Personally I think it is just wording, nothing meaningful.
spies3Tenchi: Slick words...
spies3Reicheru: So if one of us gets made immune to imprisonment.
spies3Reicheru: Anybody else can still be imprisoned, right?
spies3Reicheru: So it wouldn't technically be stopping an imprisonment at all...
spies3Tenchi: Yeah.
spies3Tenchi: I see.
spies3Reicheru: Listen... this is enough.
spies3Reicheru: When Anneliese gets her answer from Sam, I will think this through some more.
spies3Tenchi: Ok.
spies3Reicheru: I expect he will say that the same word posted twice does NOT count
spies3Reicheru: Which means that all of us bar Jennipher - you, me, Jack, Jess and Annie herself - are safe.
spies3Tenchi: O see.