Episode 4 conversation

[Jessica]

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spies3trina (11:06:04 AM): Hi Jess
spies3Jessica (11:06:16 AM): hello
spies3trina (11:06:26 AM): so waht did you think of the convo i sent ya
spies3Jessica (11:06:42 AM): bebe really got under brooks skin
spies3trina (11:06:58 AM): she was really aggressive as well
spies3trina (11:07:12 AM): and confrontational and straight to the point however
spies3Jessica (11:07:24 AM): even more so than I was with carrie
spies3trina (11:07:37 AM): lol i think you both were about even honestly
spies3Jessica (11:07:53 AM): bebe reminds me of me
spies3trina (11:08:12 AM): something strikes me odd about bebe...iunno. you thinks he is a spy?
spies3trina (11:08:20 AM): i mean have you talked to her much to gain any suspicions
spies3Jessica (11:08:32 AM): I havent talked to her that much
spies3trina (11:08:38 AM): oh ok
spies3Jessica (11:08:44 AM): But she seems to play the game like me from what I have seen
spies3trina (11:09:00 AM): i just see no indication of where judith and brooks says that ccarrie and bebe are best friends and are working together
spies3Jessica (11:09:22 AM): Yeah, I am not exactly sure where that came from
spies3Jessica (11:09:52 AM): I am suspicious of brooks though
spies3trina (11:10:00 AM): bebe was as well
spies3Jessica (11:10:04 AM): how he called out anneliese
spies3Jessica (11:10:12 AM): that seemed odd
spies3trina (11:10:16 AM): on the burg forum or in that conversation?
spies3Jessica (11:10:20 AM): burg
spies3trina (11:10:34 AM): hmmm i didnt notice that but you're right
spies3trina (11:10:39 AM): also, did you honestly post?
spies3trina (11:10:53 AM): its okay if you didnt but some people are lying to anneliese and saying they posted but they really didnt
spies3trina (11:11:04 AM): anneliese posted 3x so thats 3 points
spies3trina (11:11:12 AM): jack posted once, he addmitted so thats 4
spies3Jessica (11:11:12 AM): I did post it
spies3trina (11:11:23 AM): so you posted once thats 5
spies3trina (11:11:29 AM): tenchi, reicheru or jennipher
spies3trina (11:11:32 AM): two of them are lying
spies3Jessica (11:11:45 AM): I am not sure about aneliese though
spies3Jessica (11:11:54 AM): She could very well be lying
spies3Jessica (11:12:01 AM): not implying that she is a spy
spies3trina (11:12:03 AM): about how many posts there?
spies3trina (11:12:07 AM): or points?
spies3trina (11:12:21 AM): i talked to anneliese yesterday and she told me hse didn't reveal everything
spies3Jessica (11:12:25 AM): She didn't tell me anyhting more than is in the burg
spies3trina (11:12:28 AM): she still has some things kept secret lol
spies3trina (11:12:43 AM): i wish i knew what it wasnt but she's hiding it well now tho
spies3Jessica (11:13:06 AM): I have a theory, but I wanna keep it quiet until after imprisonment
spies3trina (11:13:19 AM): no problem.
spies3trina (11:13:25 AM): i was talking to carrie yesterday
spies3trina (11:13:33 AM): and had a feeling about shane this exile
spies3trina (11:13:47 AM): carrie justs gets up on my suspcion list every round lol
spies3trina (11:13:50 AM): it just irks me
spies3Jessica (11:14:05 AM): I was so close to voting for her
spies3Jessica (11:14:11 AM): she is always high on mine
spies3trina (11:14:15 AM): your vote wouldnt ahve made a difference
spies3trina (11:14:21 AM): so at least you went with majority
spies3Jessica (11:14:57 AM): what do you think about the triple accussation votes for judy?
spies3trina (11:15:11 AM): i totally forgot about the accusaitons votes until it came up
spies3trina (11:15:22 AM): if i remembered about them, i wouldve vote for carrie
spies3trina (11:15:37 AM): but it didnt cross my mind because a spy wouldve held their identity pretty well
spies3trina (11:15:53 AM): and someone from your group knew her identity and used it tot heir advantage
spies3Jessica (11:16:08 AM): I am worried it may have been a spy
spies3Jessica (11:16:12 AM): or three rather
spies3trina (11:16:17 AM): that crossed my mind as well
spies3trina (11:16:33 AM): maybe 3 spies voted for carrie
spies3trina (11:16:37 AM): and then the same 3
spies3trina (11:16:39 AM): accused judith
spies3Jessica (11:16:43 AM): yeah
spies3Jessica (11:17:04 AM): or carrie could be a spy and they put saved carrie with 6x vote
spies3trina (11:17:19 AM): right right
spies3trina (11:17:24 AM): but because the votes were so split
spies3trina (11:17:28 AM): carrie/judith
spies3trina (11:17:34 AM): if carrie is a spy, surely a spy voted for her
spies3trina (11:17:44 AM): so spies are voting against each other or are willing to
spies3trina (11:17:54 AM): so that makes me less inclined to believe carrie is a spy
spies3trina (11:18:10 AM): plus she isnt getting support really. The only reason people voted judith i feel is that judy was more suspicious
spies3trina (11:18:20 AM): and was frantically getting votes
spies3Jessica (11:18:26 AM): Yeah
spies3Jessica (11:18:54 AM): and carrie didn't even have enough support to save her from majority (minus penalties) et exile 2
spies3Jessica (11:19:04 AM): *at exile 2
spies3trina (11:19:07 AM): right
spies3Jessica (11:19:30 AM): But it could be a clever spy ploy
spies3trina (11:19:41 AM): too clever for carrie lol
spies3Jessica (11:20:13 AM): if the spies knew judy would be getting X amounts of votes, they could have stuffed their votes with the accussations to make sure it was just out of the danger zone
spies3trina (11:20:36 AM): i thinkt he votes were pretty much up in the air until the last minute
spies3Jessica (11:20:39 AM): When I told carrie that I wasn't voting for her 5 minutes before exile she seemed shocked
spies3trina (11:20:41 AM): at least mine was and urs
spies3Jessica (11:20:47 AM): yeah
spies3trina (11:21:08 AM): no one was pushing for either judy or carrie either...except bebe who pushed for judy
spies3Jessica (11:21:10 AM): but it looked like it could have been set up to be a 1-2 vote gap, but it seemed bigger since I flopped
spies3trina (11:21:13 AM): carrie and judy pushed for each other
spies3trina (11:21:19 AM): yeah
spies3trina (11:21:28 AM): do you think because you flopped
spies3trina (11:21:31 AM): it makes you suspicious as well
spies3Jessica (11:21:37 AM): Possibly
spies3trina (11:21:44 AM): it struck me as odd honestly because there was a voting block of you reicheru and judith
spies3trina (11:21:47 AM): and you broke it
spies3Jessica (11:22:04 AM): But I was never really that tight with judith
spies3Jessica (11:22:23 AM): I trusted her, but my allegience was more with jenn and rei and miles at that time
spies3trina (11:22:36 AM): i guess the perception that you voted the same way with them all three rounds
spies3trina (11:22:43 AM): made it look like it was
spies3trina (11:22:46 AM): 2 rounds rather
spies3trina (11:22:49 AM): tight
spies3Jessica (11:23:30 AM): Yeah, I could see how players not in the know could think that
spies3Jessica (11:23:43 AM): just seeing voting history can be innacurate
spies3trina (11:23:51 AM): right especially early on
spies3Jessica (11:23:51 AM): without the reasoning behind it
spies3trina (11:23:54 AM): yeah
spies3trina (11:24:07 AM): bebe pointed out to me that if all 5 spies make it to the final 10
spies3trina (11:24:08 AM): they win
spies3Jessica (11:24:20 AM): yeah
spies3trina (11:24:33 AM): and i think we havve about 4/5 rounds to get a sp
spies3trina (11:24:34 AM): spuy
spies3Jessica (11:24:48 AM): where I play werewolf, the hosts usually end the game when wolves have majority
spies3trina (11:25:07 AM): really? oh gosh tahts going to be icky situation lol
spies3trina (11:25:29 AM): but with the inccorporation of roles and abilities in this game, one can never know
spies3Jessica (11:25:36 AM): yeah
spies3trina (11:25:48 AM): so even though i think it may be true that the spies win if they all make f10
spies3Jessica (11:25:52 AM): speaking of roles, what do you think about arthur
spies3trina (11:25:55 AM): there are also other circumstances
spies3Jessica (11:26:00 AM): yeah
spies3trina (11:26:02 AM): arthur is a loudmouth and a bigot lol
spies3trina (11:26:12 AM): i like the dude but he craves attention
spies3Jessica (11:26:17 AM): He pissed everyone off at exile
spies3trina (11:26:25 AM): and is just getting under the skin of people and doing foolish moves
spies3trina (11:26:38 AM): i totally do not think his plan of getting people to reveal abilities is working properly
spies3trina (11:26:50 AM): and if he had all that information, that would just...brutal lol and dangerous
spies3Jessica (11:26:52 AM): If I had a role I wouldn't reveal to him
spies3trina (11:26:58 AM): i wouldn't as well
spies3Jessica (11:27:01 AM): he is in no way confirmed
spies3trina (11:27:13 AM): well..i think his bluntness and willing to put himself out there
spies3trina (11:27:20 AM): makes him more of a citizen than you or I
spies3Jessica (11:27:36 AM): I am actually quite suspicious of him
spies3trina (11:27:37 AM): and its good cause if the spies see this, they may imprison him over us lol
spies3trina (11:27:40 AM): really?
spies3Jessica (11:27:43 AM): yeah
spies3trina (11:27:51 AM): i dunno. he doesnt scream spy to me
spies3Jessica (11:28:00 AM): He has stuck with the minority the whole game and critisized us for being wrong
spies3trina (11:28:13 AM): hmm good point
spies3Jessica (11:28:33 AM): then sticks out his neck acting like a savior asking for knowledge that could doom us all if the spies get ahold of it
spies3trina (11:28:53 AM): he may be a spy because of that reasoning but overall i think he's just a poor citizen
spies3trina (11:29:02 AM): not one of my targets, at least for now
spies3trina (11:29:12 AM): im hoping the spies get him thats all lol
spies3Jessica (11:29:19 AM): yeah
spies3trina (11:29:25 AM): any thoughts on who wil be imprisoned?
spies3trina (11:29:37 AM): these surprised imprisonments are coming from outta nowhere
spies3Jessica (11:29:38 AM): I am worried it might be anneliese
spies3trina (11:29:57 AM): i think her ability, alternative ability, or the appearance of, is making her unlikely to be the one imprisoned
spies3Jessica (11:30:21 AM): But she has bluffed so much this game
spies3trina (11:30:43 AM): which is good because it leaves the spies wondering
spies3Jessica (11:30:46 AM): I'll tell you a secret that no one but anneliese knows
spies3trina (11:30:51 AM): is it safe to?
spies3Jessica (11:30:52 AM): try to keep it quiet
spies3Jessica (11:30:55 AM): its not that big
spies3trina (11:30:58 AM): ok lol
spies3trina (11:31:04 AM): i wont say anything
spies3Jessica (11:31:04 AM): but annieliese might not be happy with me
spies3trina (11:31:14 AM): anneliese doesn't like talking to me i dont hink lol
spies3trina (11:31:23 AM): i havent communicated or had a good and pelasnt convo with her lol
spies3trina (11:31:31 AM): she holds back than she did at the beginning
spies3Jessica (11:32:05 AM): Before the second imprisonment, she was scrambling to try to avoid imprisonment, so she went to jack and said "If you imprison me others will come after you"
spies3Jessica (11:32:24 AM): I know it is not that big, but no one else knows
spies3Jessica (11:32:37 AM): she told me not to tell anyone, but things seemed to have changed since then
spies3trina (11:32:51 AM): so she avoided imprisonment by telling jack who seems to be one of the most citizenlike people in the game lol?
spies3Jessica (11:33:15 AM): Actually in episode 2 we were working under the theory that it was carrie or jack as a spy
spies3trina (11:33:20 AM): and i dont think there is enough votes ot go after jack, unless jennipher keeps pressuring me to vote that way lol
spies3trina (11:33:23 AM): oh really?
spies3Jessica (11:33:25 AM): yeah
spies3trina (11:33:39 AM): i can't see how jack is a spy tho. Jack's side is pressuring me to vote jenn while jenn's side vice versa
spies3Jessica (11:33:42 AM): we thought there were 3 spies in the first 15
spies3trina (11:33:46 AM): ohhh
spies3Jessica (11:33:59 AM): so we assumed they split their votes as 1 jakub, one jenn, one throwaway
spies3Jessica (11:34:21 AM): but since you guys joined, there is little evidence that there were actually 3 at the time
spies3trina (11:34:32 AM): right.
spies3trina (11:34:39 AM): can you make anything of the imprisonment of audrey?
spies3trina (11:34:45 AM): i was so sure someone from your group was getting imprisoned
spies3trina (11:34:48 AM): but BAM audrey
spies3trina (11:34:52 AM): and im like..huh?
spies3trina (11:34:59 AM): if there are more spies in my group
spies3trina (11:35:09 AM): it actually makes sense that a spy would imprison one of my group members
spies3Jessica (11:35:12 AM): we were so scared that it would have been rei
spies3trina (11:35:13 AM): cause we knew each other a week longer
spies3Jessica (11:35:20 AM): yeah
spies3trina (11:35:25 AM): i actually thought ti was going to be rei as well
spies3Jessica (11:35:37 AM): I was thining that maybe taking out audrey would be reverse psychology though
spies3trina (11:35:45 AM): as in how?
spies3Jessica (11:35:54 AM): like there are more in your group, but they wanted everyone to think the other way
spies3trina (11:36:02 AM): hmmm right
spies3Jessica (11:36:08 AM): jusr a theory though
spies3trina (11:36:17 AM): it could potentially work. its a good theory
spies3trina (11:36:41 AM): i wish i talk to people more whom i have yet to talk to much lol
spies3trina (11:36:45 AM): jordan, rapahael, matthew
spies3Jessica (11:37:10 AM): Also, judy and I were talking about how many spies we thought were in each group
spies3Jessica (11:37:24 AM): we came to a theory that 4 or all 5 were in the new group
spies3trina (11:37:25 AM): 4 in mine 1 in urs?, thats my guess
spies3Jessica (11:37:29 AM): yeah
spies3trina (11:37:30 AM): yep
spies3trina (11:37:35 AM): thats how i feel as well
spies3Jessica (11:37:50 AM): since there was little struggle in voting people off made us think there was no spy sway
spies3trina (11:38:11 AM): so for this exile, i think targetting someone from my group makes the most sense
spies3Jessica (11:38:21 AM): yeah
spies3Jessica (11:38:25 AM): I am thinking brooks
spies3trina (11:38:34 AM): bebe thought brooks was suspicious as well
spies3trina (11:38:45 AM): im sorry i keep referring to bebe lol. i talk to her too much
spies3Jessica (11:38:51 AM): how he tossed anneliese's name out like that
spies3trina (11:38:56 AM): and she's still getting higher on my suspicion list ugh.
spies3trina (11:39:14 AM): right, i dont udnerstand why he did that and it hought he had comfort in anneliese for some reason
spies3trina (11:39:24 AM): but why was anneliese mad that claire responded to her in the burg
spies3trina (11:39:35 AM): i dont get the anger with claire lol
spies3Jessica (11:39:56 AM): One thing I was thinking is that possible brooks planned on taking out anneliese at imprisonment, but he wanted to make sure everyone had a reason to
spies3Jessica (11:40:16 AM): so revealing her role would definately be a good reason
spies3trina (11:40:25 AM): hmm true but her role seems useless right now
spies3trina (11:40:29 AM): if a spy imprison her now
spies3trina (11:40:36 AM): it seems like...for no reason really
spies3trina (11:40:41 AM): unless she's lying about her points
spies3trina (11:40:47 AM): like her power is very weak
spies3Jessica (11:40:48 AM): thats what I was thiking
spies3trina (11:40:51 AM): she has to get 27 points
spies3trina (11:40:54 AM): and she only has "6"
spies3trina (11:41:10 AM): if speis knew that, and imprison her, they wasted an impriosnment really and all it really does is "save someone
spies3trina (11:41:17 AM): whoopie doo
spies3Jessica (11:41:26 AM): I guess I will tell you my theory
spies3trina (11:41:29 AM): but if htey target another person unknowningly
spies3trina (11:41:36 AM): and leave anneliese till later
spies3Jessica (11:41:37 AM): I think that she may really have 14 points
spies3trina (11:41:40 AM): they get her before she gets the 27 points
spies3Jessica (11:41:53 AM): and that her points needed atrent even that high
spies3Jessica (11:42:03 AM): 27 seems like an obscenely high amount
spies3Jessica (11:42:11 AM): makes the role seem pretty useless
spies3trina (11:42:13 AM): could possibily be higher you believe? brooks wanted me to cnfirm it with anneliese so much yesterday lol
spies3trina (11:42:16 AM): yah i agree
spies3trina (11:42:30 AM): i was talking with brooks so much and he was sort pressuring me to ask anneliese lol to the extent it was awkward
spies3trina (11:42:52 AM): im gong to send you the convo i ahd with brooks about points
spies3Jessica (11:43:04 AM): ok
spies3trina (11:44:18 AM): it really doesnt explain much
spies3trina (11:44:23 AM): except the point structure
spies3trina (11:44:28 AM): *sent*
spies3Jessica (11:44:34 AM): thanks
spies3trina (11:44:36 AM): brooks felt that anneliese points dont count
spies3trina (11:44:39 AM): and that if she does have six
spies3trina (11:44:48 AM): he asked reicheru, tenchi, jack and they all said they posted
spies3trina (11:44:57 AM): 2-1-2
spies3trina (11:45:03 AM): or around that order
spies3trina (11:45:06 AM): 5 poonts
spies3trina (11:45:27 AM): and either you and jen didn't post.
spies3trina (11:45:38 AM): that was his reaosning but anneliese posted 3x and had her points count so
spies3trina (11:45:45 AM): it threw brooks ina loop
spies3Jessica (11:45:57 AM): I was thinking maybe it only counts once each time
spies3Jessica (11:46:00 AM): or she is lying
spies3Jessica (11:46:06 AM): bluffing rather
spies3trina (11:46:08 AM): yeah
spies3Jessica (11:50:50 AM): I have a hard time reading chat logs
spies3trina (11:50:57 AM): no problem
spies3trina (11:51:02 AM): its tough i agree
spies3Jessica (11:51:07 AM): I think I have like moderate ADD
spies3Jessica (11:51:12 AM): my mind always wonders
spies3trina (11:51:17 AM): lol you're normal dont worry
spies3trina (11:51:31 AM): since you let me in a theory of yours
spies3trina (11:51:36 AM): ill let you in on a secret
spies3trina (11:51:49 AM): wanna keep it safe though lol cause its kinda important
spies3Jessica (11:51:55 AM): ok
spies3Jessica (11:52:05 AM): if you feel comfortable revealing whatever it is
spies3trina (11:52:21 AM): for the most part yeah . i do feel i may get imprisoned this round but meh, its okay because..
spies3trina (11:52:34 AM): last round i was given immunity from imprisonment
spies3trina (11:52:55 AM): and this round i may or may not, so if you are a spy, try to imprison me and maybe or maybe not you wasted an imprisonment on me
spies3trina (11:53:15 AM): and second, someone was given the ability to Ask if someone has a citizen role or not
spies3trina (11:53:23 AM): and they asked reicheru and the results came up negative
spies3Jessica (11:53:31 AM): ?
spies3trina (11:53:32 AM): so reicheru is etiehr a spy or a normal citizen
spies3Jessica (11:53:40 AM): oh
spies3Jessica (11:53:44 AM): I thought it meant spy
spies3trina (11:53:50 AM): nope
spies3trina (11:53:54 AM): it means she doesnt have a role
spies3Jessica (11:54:06 AM): someone needs to ask anneliese
spies3trina (11:54:33 AM): so there are more roles out there definitely
spies3trina (11:54:39 AM): but im not attached to them unfortunately lol
spies3trina (11:54:47 AM): so i hope that helps but keep it secret
spies3Jessica (11:54:51 AM): I will
spies3Jessica (11:55:03 AM): do you know how you got immunity?
spies3trina (11:55:04 AM): cause if someone finds out people are handing immunities and abilities to Ask other out
spies3trina (11:55:09 AM): it be kinda dangerous ya know
spies3trina (11:55:17 AM): yeah i know how i got immunity
spies3trina (11:55:36 AM): but i cant say at this moment
spies3trina (11:55:45 AM): because you're not confirmed to me yet, i apologize
spies3Jessica (11:55:50 AM): I understand
spies3trina (11:55:55 AM): your high on the citizen lsit but your not confirmed thats all
spies3Jessica (11:56:03 AM): I understand
spies3trina (11:56:28 AM): i try to tell people things, under the impression they are spies but with like a double edged sword
spies3trina (11:56:49 AM): in this case when i tell people i may or may not have immunity, if they turn out to be a spy, they are willing to take the risk of losing impriosnment
spies3trina (11:56:55 AM): so i feel thats a smart thing to do.
spies3Jessica (11:57:27 AM): yeah
spies3Jessica (11:57:29 AM): like anneliese
spies3trina (11:57:35 AM): right
spies3Jessica (11:57:36 AM): but anneliese bluffs
spies3Jessica (11:57:43 AM): I do believe you
spies3Jessica (11:57:51 AM): but then again, I havent known you that long
spies3trina (11:57:56 AM): true lol
spies3Jessica (11:57:59 AM): you could be a bluffer like anneliese
spies3trina (11:58:27 AM): i fear that this imprisonment, someone who is heavily involved in trying tofind out who are spies will be imprisoned
spies3trina (11:59:08 AM): the people i worry most about imprisonments are jack, tenchi, me, you, shane, bebe
spies3trina (11:59:21 AM): i think the others are very suspicious or dont contribute a whole lot
spies3Jessica (11:59:28 AM): yeah
spies3Jessica (11:59:41 AM): well, rei is active too
spies3trina (11:59:52 AM): welli guess its from my point of view as well
spies3trina (11:59:57 AM): i dont talk to her or see her much
spies3trina (12:00:16 PM): but if we survive imprisonment, we should definitely go after brooks
spies3trina (12:00:35 PM): and ill help rally support against him as much as i can though i feel he trusts me lol
spies3Jessica (12:01:32 PM): Well, we definately need the imprisonment before we decide if he is still the main target
spies3trina (12:01:45 PM): yeah.
spies3Jessica (12:01:51 PM): but he seems so to me
spies3trina (12:01:52 PM): i hope the spies pull another audrey tho hehe
spies3Jessica (12:01:55 PM): haha
spies3Jessica (12:01:58 PM): we can only hope
spies3trina (12:02:25 PM): ok im going to go eat breakfast. ill see ya tongithf ro imprisonment if your on
spies3Jessica (12:02:47 PM): seeya
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spies3Jessica (12:59:28 PM): Hello
spies3Shane (12:59:31 PM): Hi!
spies3Jessica (12:59:57 PM): What are your thoughts on arthur, his move was very suspicious
spies3Shane (1:00:36 PM): It'd be awesome if someone could pull that off, but there's no way someone with a role would go to him.
spies3Shane (1:00:46 PM): The move he made makes him look like a Spy.
spies3Jessica (1:00:53 PM): my thoughts exactly
spies3Jessica (1:01:10 PM): when I was new to the werewolf game I tried the same thing and I got voted out fast
spies3Jessica (1:01:23 PM): It seems like a noob citizen move
spies3Jessica (1:01:28 PM): or a risky spy move
spies3Jessica (1:01:49 PM): And I am not so sure Sam would have accepted noobs
spies3Shane (1:02:29 PM): Yeah, Anneliese just became an Imprisonment target too, if her role is true.
spies3Jessica (1:02:41 PM): she is a good bluffer though
spies3Shane (1:03:17 PM): Oh yeah, that's tonight as well...
spies3Shane (1:05:20 PM): Who you think it'll be?
spies3Jessica (1:05:52 PM): It may be anneliese
spies3Jessica (1:06:02 PM): but I think she may be able to bluff of the imprisonment
spies3Jessica (1:06:10 PM): unless the spies are ballsy
spies3Shane (1:06:31 PM): If I were a Spy, she'd be my target, with her ability.
spies3Shane (1:07:24 PM): Arthur might be a target as well.
spies3Jessica (1:07:33 PM): Unless they want to leave her alive to frame anneliese
spies3Jessica (1:07:40 PM): or if she is a spy, which I doubt
spies3Jessica (1:08:01 PM): I dont think it would be arthur, I suspect him a lot
spies3Shane (1:08:10 PM): I don't think many people buy the "Anneliese might be a Spy" notion.
spies3Shane (1:08:16 PM): She's pretty convincing.
spies3Jessica (1:08:39 PM): she is very smart
spies3Jessica (1:09:01 PM): I could see her as a spy, but she is so good you cant really make any suspicion stick to her
spies3Shane (1:09:24 PM): Yeah.
spies3Shane (1:11:43 PM): I feel so bad about the last Exile.
spies3Jessica (1:12:29 PM): me too
spies3Jessica (1:12:36 PM): I was so close to voting carrie instead
spies3Shane (1:13:00 PM): I was so set on Judith being a Spy, when Sam said she wasn't, I felt sick.
spies3Jessica (1:13:40 PM): When I told her that I might vote for her she tried so hard to convince me, and she almost did at some points
spies3Jessica (1:13:44 PM): I felt so bad
spies3Shane (1:16:20 PM): Sigh, gotta move on,
spies3Jessica (1:16:31 PM): yep
spies3Jessica (1:16:51 PM): What did you think about brooks outing anneliese?
spies3Shane (1:17:13 PM): Not surprised. He told me about it online the day he came into the game.
spies3Shane (1:18:30 PM): You?
spies3Jessica (1:18:52 PM): He actually didn't reveal anything to me when I first saw him
spies3Jessica (1:19:03 PM): I only saw him once and I think it was when he first got online
spies3Shane (1:19:17 PM): Oh.
spies3Shane (1:20:32 PM): I didn't believe him, until Anne posted t in the Burg, but how Brooks found out, is beyond me.
spies3Shane (1:28:25 PM): Unless Anne just told him part of it.
spies3Shane (1:29:00 PM): Well, I'm gonna go lay down.
spies3Shane (1:29:05 PM): Talk to you later Jessica.
spies3Jessica (1:29:07 PM): seeya
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spies3Jessica (4:32:48 PM): Hello again


spies3Anneliese (4:35:34 PM): Hey
spies3Jessica (4:36:37 PM): I just remembered how we were talking about how things would go down and groups would break apart if judy was cit exiled
spies3Jessica (4:36:51 PM): it DOES feel really chaotic
spies3Jessica (4:38:22 PM): I was just thinking, is there a way we could use the costume party to catch spies?
spies3Jessica (4:40:06 PM): We could make many claims that could even just unnerve the spies
spies3Jessica (4:40:26 PM): anonymity is a powerful thing
spies3Anneliese (4:40:38 PM): That's true, I was thinking that as well
spies3Jessica (4:41:19 PM): If we say that we are a counteragent and viewed a spy, they could throw eachother under the bus to divide
spies3Jessica (4:42:05 PM): But we need to look at the negative repreccussions first
spies3Jessica (4:42:16 PM): Can you think of any?
spies3Jessica (4:43:36 PM): Have you selected your costume party charactter yet?
spies3Anneliese (4:45:44 PM): I can't think of any repercussions right now, except that we'd get more spy division ankess clues as to true identities
spies3Anneliese (4:45:45 PM): And yes, I picked my character
spies3Anneliese (4:49:43 PM): did you?
spies3Jessica (4:49:52 PM): Yep
spies3Anneliese (5:02:48 PM): ...
spies3Anneliese (5:02:51 PM): Don't tell jenn the word.
spies3Anneliese (5:02:57 PM): Take a look at this:
spies3Jessica (5:03:14 PM): I wont
spies3Anneliese (5:03:26 PM): spies3Anneliese: I'm a little nervous
spies3Jennipher: Yeah, how come?
spies3Anneliese: Imprisonment
spies3Jennipher: Yeah, but I thought you were immune because of your power
spies3Anneliese: Doesn't mean someone I trust can't go Jenn
spies3Anneliese (5:03:46 PM): spies3Anneliese: Right now I'm hoping the spies stick to their normal pattern, and get rid of one of the less active people
spies3Jennipher: Right, so you mean you're worried someone you like and trust this round might be imprisoned?
spies3Anneliese: Exactly
spies3Jennipher: Got it
spies3Anneliese (5:03:57 PM): spies3Anneliese: Judith was worried last Imprisonment that someone from our group would go home
spies3Anneliese: why wouldn't I think the same?
spies3Jennipher: Yes.....
spies3Jennipher: I understand
spies3Jennipher: Listen, what was the word again?
spies3Anneliese (5:04:20 PM): spies3Jennipher: I want to post it
spies3Anneliese: Gah I keep forgetting lol
spies3Anneliese: I have to go in a few, can I tell you after Imprisonment?
spies3Jennipher: How come?
spies3Anneliese (5:04:30 PM): spies3Jennipher: I'd like to post it now, if possible...In case I'm not on ther
spies3Jennipher: *then
spies3Anneliese: cause I"m spending time with my family...
spies3Anneliese (5:04:40 PM): spies3Anneliese: yes but you can post it before Exile
spies3Jennipher: Ok...sure
spies3Jennipher: You don't remember the word?
spies3Anneliese: Not off the top of my head, it changes every week and I've only looked at it once
spies3Anneliese (5:05:19 PM): ... And once again Jenn looks sketchier than ever.
spies3Jessica (5:05:36 PM): I am still not sure about her
spies3Jessica (5:05:52 PM): I dont think she even realizes what your role does
spies3Jessica (5:06:09 PM): If she is playing dumb she is doing a damn good job
spies3Anneliese (5:06:18 PM): Just think about what she just did though
spies3Anneliese (5:06:37 PM): she established that I was immune tonight because of my bunker... wherever she got that
spies3Anneliese (5:06:42 PM): then immediately she wanted the word.
spies3Jessica (5:06:48 PM): ahhhh
spies3Anneliese (5:06:52 PM): and couldn't wait until after Imprisonment?
spies3Anneliese (5:07:04 PM): it would not have been as sketchy if she didn't want it RIGHT BEFORE Imprisonment
spies3Anneliese (5:07:33 PM): spies3Jennipher: Just wondering, Anneliese, has Jack posted the word?
spies3Anneliese (5:07:49 PM): spies3Anneliese: Not yet this week
spies3Jennipher: But in past weeks?
spies3Anneliese: I believe so... why?
spies3Anneliese (5:09:52 PM): Nevermind, she didn't really go anywhere with that
spies3Jessica (5:10:24 PM): I seriously think she is just dumb
spies3Anneliese (5:11:08 PM): This is twice now she's pulled something really suspicious by "being dumb", though
spies3Jessica (5:11:19 PM): good point
spies3Jessica (5:18:44 PM): Any more thoughts on making a claim at the party?
spies3Anneliese (5:19:12 PM): I'm still trying to plan that out...
spies3Anneliese (5:19:21 PM): I just don't see how we can pull it off, even though it's a really good idea
spies3Anneliese (5:19:30 PM): I'm sure Sam has something planned
spies3Jessica (5:19:36 PM): yeah
spies3Jessica (5:19:42 PM): I bet he planted fakes
spies3Jessica (5:19:53 PM): party goers that arent citizens
spies3Anneliese (5:20:20 PM): he might make every say their role
spies3Anneliese (5:20:26 PM): or unveil all special abilities
spies3Anneliese (5:20:34 PM): but since people can't pinpoint faces with names
spies3Jessica (5:20:56 PM): yeah
spies3Jessica (5:21:14 PM): I dont think he would pull something like that though
spies3Jessica (5:21:30 PM): It prevents us from making any serious false claims
spies3Jessica (5:21:35 PM): and I think that was the point
spies3Anneliese (5:22:04 PM): yeah, good point...
spies3Jessica (5:22:30 PM): otherwise it would reveal who you were since you already revealed your role as well
spies3Jessica (5:24:12 PM): didn't you tell jenn you had to go soon?
spies3Jessica (5:24:22 PM): she might get suspicious about that
spies3Anneliese (5:24:46 PM): I was about to put up an away message
spies3Anneliese went away at 5:25:13 PM.
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spies3Jennipher (4:46:17 PM): Hey
spies3Jessica (4:46:30 PM): Hello
spies3Jessica (4:46:48 PM): Just making sure, did anneliese really tell you the word?
spies3Jennipher (4:47:08 PM): Yes, she did, but I had forgotten it, so I didn't post it
spies3Jennipher (4:47:10 PM): You?
spies3Jessica (4:47:15 PM): I did post it
spies3Jennipher (4:47:25 PM): Oh, ok....
spies3Jessica (4:47:31 PM): Thats why I am concerned at why her numbers are off
spies3Jennipher (4:47:37 PM): Do you think she's telling the truth?
spies3Jennipher (4:47:41 PM): Off how?
spies3Jessica (4:47:47 PM): well, she got 6
spies3Jessica (4:48:09 PM): I am not sure if she is teling the truth
spies3Jessica (4:48:16 PM): she certainly does like to bluff
spies3Jennipher (4:48:36 PM): Yeah....
spies3Jennipher (4:48:48 PM): How would that make her suspicious though?
spies3Jessica (4:49:07 PM): Well, it doesn;t neccesarily mean she is a spy
spies3Jessica (4:49:14 PM): gutsy humans lie too
spies3Jennipher (4:49:22 PM): Yeah...
spies3Jessica (4:49:29 PM): like that idea I came up with in the early stages to claim lover to miles
spies3Jennipher (4:49:36 PM): Who would she share all this if she was a spy?
spies3Jessica (4:49:38 PM): that sort of fell throught the cracks
spies3Jennipher (4:49:45 PM): Yeah...
spies3Jennipher (4:50:07 PM): Do you think other citizens have powers and they're not saying?
spies3Jessica (4:50:16 PM): Probably
spies3Jessica (4:50:34 PM): The only reason anneliese even came out was because of brooks' big mouth
spies3Jessica (4:50:59 PM): I dont think anyone wanted to reveal to arthur
spies3Jessica (4:51:11 PM): not saying if I have a role or not, but if I did I wouldn't tell him
spies3Jennipher (4:51:58 PM): Yeah, I know, she was forced to talk
spies3Jennipher (4:52:11 PM): Does that make Arthur suspicious to you at all?
spies3Jessica (4:52:23 PM): I do think he is suspicious
spies3Jennipher (4:52:41 PM): Yeah....
spies3Jessica (4:52:45 PM): An unconfirmed asking for powerful info is never a good move
spies3Jessica (4:52:54 PM): I am also suspicious of brooks though
spies3Jennipher (4:53:04 PM): Ok....
spies3Jennipher (4:53:09 PM): Yeah, I agree with that
spies3Jessica (4:53:10 PM): My list is
brook
carrie
arthur
spies3Jennipher (4:53:17 PM): Especially out in the open
spies3Jennipher (4:53:21 PM): Yeah...
spies3Jennipher (4:53:35 PM): Can I just ask...what makes you not suspicious of Jack, at all
spies3Jennipher (4:53:36 PM): ?
spies3Jessica (4:53:59 PM): I do feel sort of suspicious of him, but he is not top 3 for me
spies3Jessica (4:54:24 PM): If anneliese is telling the truth about the lack of points, arthur may be the cause
spies3Jessica (4:54:30 PM): not arthur
spies3Jessica (4:54:32 PM): jack
spies3Jessica (4:54:34 PM): sorry
spies3Jessica (4:54:47 PM): or possibly tenchi
spies3Jessica (4:54:54 PM): but jack I find is more suspicious
spies3Jennipher (4:55:01 PM): Oh, ok....Yeah
spies3Jennipher (4:55:33 PM): But, she seemed to say that it would be obvious if she told a spy and then they did not post the word
spies3Jennipher (4:56:02 PM): Is there any way, if she's a spy to have up citizens posting the word give her something special?
spies3Jessica (4:56:13 PM): there very well may be
spies3Jessica (4:56:24 PM): I was suspicious that she could be lying about the 6 point thing
spies3Jessica (4:56:41 PM): Because she has set us all up to be exiled if she pushes for it
spies3Jessica (4:56:47 PM): thats 5 exiles
spies3Jessica (4:56:59 PM): she would say "1 or 2 are spies"
spies3Jessica (4:57:21 PM): then when we miss the first 3 that means the last two are spies, but when the first one of them goes
spies3Jessica (4:57:37 PM): it turns out that she is a spy who traded herself for 5 exiles
spies3Jessica (4:57:41 PM): just a theory though
spies3Jennipher (4:57:54 PM): What does the amount of points have to do with tha?
spies3Jennipher (4:57:57 PM): *that
spies3Jennipher (4:58:00 PM): Oh, I see
spies3Jessica (4:58:18 PM): because according to her points, there is a spy or two in the group of 5
spies3Jessica (4:58:51 PM): so if she pushes for it, she can set up 4 citizen lynches if she is a spy
spies3Jessica (4:58:56 PM): all based off of a lie
spies3Jennipher (4:59:08 PM): Right
spies3Jessica (4:59:08 PM): but this is just a theory
spies3Jessica (4:59:11 PM): she may be bluffing
spies3Jessica (4:59:20 PM): or there could be two spies
spies3Jennipher (4:59:34 PM): Because a citizen posting the word, would be an adbantage to her?
spies3Jennipher (4:59:40 PM): *advantage
spies3Jessica (4:59:57 PM): well, if there is no real role, she could lie about the points and frame us all
spies3Jennipher (5:00:19 PM): How so, exactly?
spies3Jessica (5:00:39 PM): Well, she said that spies destroy the bunker if they post the word
spies3Jessica (5:00:47 PM): so spies cant post it or they would be revealed
spies3Jessica (5:01:16 PM): so her role can basically count citizens in the people she told the word
spies3Jennipher (5:01:17 PM): Not posting the word make those look suspicious, but it could mean safety to those who don't, somehow
spies3Jennipher (5:01:20 PM): Yes....
spies3Jennipher (5:02:52 PM): I just asked her to tell me the word again, and she said she forgot it
spies3Jennipher (5:03:13 PM): And could she tell me sometime before or after imprisonment
spies3Jessica (5:03:32 PM): I am not sure
spies3Jennipher (5:04:56 PM): Yeah, I just thought that was a little strange
spies3Jessica (5:05:04 PM): hmmm
spies3Jennipher (5:07:13 PM): How do you feel about Judith's exile?
spies3Jessica (5:07:20 PM): horrible
spies3Jessica (5:07:29 PM): My vote was going back and forth so much
spies3Jessica (5:07:41 PM): at least I wasn';t the deciding vote
spies3Jennipher (5:08:19 PM): Yeah....
spies3Jennipher (5:08:24 PM): It was a shame
spies3Jessica (5:08:48 PM): ooooh
spies3Jessica (5:08:59 PM): Annie told me she was one of the people who accused judy
spies3Jennipher (5:09:06 PM): Oh, wow....
spies3Jessica (5:09:09 PM): as in accusations which got her points
spies3Jessica (5:09:13 PM): dont tell her though
spies3Jennipher (5:09:14 PM): What exactly does that mean?
spies3Jennipher (5:09:18 PM): Right
spies3Jessica (5:09:20 PM): I was supposed to keep it a secret
spies3Jennipher (5:09:23 PM): Ok....
spies3Jennipher (5:09:27 PM): I won't
spies3Jessica (5:09:34 PM): like she posted her real identity in her confessional
spies3Jessica (5:09:44 PM): and it tacks on a vote for judy
spies3Jessica (5:09:49 PM): there were 3 of them
spies3Jennipher (5:10:03 PM): Anneliese's real identity or Judith?
spies3Jessica (5:10:30 PM): judy
spies3Jessica (5:10:42 PM): thats why you are supposed to keep your real identity a secret
spies3Jennipher (5:10:43 PM): Which was a citizen, right?
spies3Jessica (5:10:46 PM): no
spies3Jessica (5:10:49 PM): like her real AIM
spies3Jessica (5:11:00 PM): or who she was from a previous spies ga,me
spies3Jennipher (5:11:02 PM): I'm confused
spies3Jennipher (5:11:06 PM): Oh, ok....
spies3Jennipher (5:11:15 PM): Like a duplicate player?
spies3Jennipher (5:11:23 PM): What if you've never played before?
spies3Jessica (5:11:36 PM): then you probably wont get accused
spies3Jessica (5:11:45 PM): unless you reveal your AIM as a symbol of trust
spies3Jessica (5:12:12 PM): I seriouslt thought the three who accused judy were spies, then annie says it was her....
spies3Jennipher (5:12:14 PM): How exactly do that let someone know your identity?
spies3Jessica (5:12:31 PM): hold on, I will look for the thread where sam explains it
spies3Jennipher (5:12:38 PM): I have to read up on accusations
spies3Jennipher (5:12:40 PM): Yeah, thanks
spies3Jennipher (5:12:41 PM): lol
spies3Jennipher (5:12:42 PM):
spies3Jessica (5:13:09 PM): spies3.proboards81.com/index.cgi?board=spiesseries6374&action=display&thread=1176692406
spies3Jennipher (5:13:28 PM): Thanks
spies3Jennipher (5:13:30 PM):
spies3Jennipher (5:15:15 PM): So, what do you think it means that she did that?
spies3Jennipher (5:15:42 PM): Did Judy trust Anneliese with something like her real name or real AIM?
spies3Jessica (5:15:44 PM): she was either damn sure that judy was a spy, or she is a spy who wanted to oust judith
spies3Jessica (5:15:50 PM): I am not sure
spies3Jessica (5:16:02 PM): Judy was probably a previous season player
spies3Jennipher (5:16:09 PM): Well, she was not a spy
spies3Jennipher (5:16:16 PM): Ok, ok
spies3Jessica (5:16:29 PM): so either anneliese has horrible judgement or is a spy
spies3Jessica (5:16:46 PM): I am very suspicious of her the more I think about it
spies3Jennipher (5:16:59 PM): Hmmm
spies3Jessica (5:17:23 PM): dont tell her I said anything, she has a lot of swing
spies3Jessica (5:17:34 PM): and that is if she is a cit
spies3Jessica (5:17:42 PM): if she is a spy I could be imprisoned
spies3Jennipher (5:17:48 PM): Ok....I won't
spies3Jennipher (5:19:49 PM): So, what do you think of the costume party?
spies3Jessica (5:20:05 PM): They are fun
spies3Jennipher (5:20:28 PM): Yeah
spies3Jennipher (5:20:40 PM): So, have you made yours?
spies3Jessica (5:20:46 PM): maaaybe
spies3Jennipher (5:20:55 PM): lol
spies3Jennipher (5:20:56 PM):
spies3Jessica (5:21:59 PM): Have you been into the party yet?
spies3Jennipher (5:22:17 PM): Nope, you?
spies3Jessica (5:22:37 PM): ....
spies3Jessica (5:22:39 PM): damn
spies3Jessica (5:22:41 PM): yeah
spies3Jessica (5:22:46 PM): and that means I made mine
spies3Jennipher (5:22:49 PM): How come?
spies3Jennipher (5:22:51 PM): lol
spies3Jessica (5:22:55 PM): you have to make it to get in
spies3Jessica (5:23:04 PM): But have I posted yet.....
spies3Jennipher (5:24:10 PM): I know you do...lol
spies3Jennipher (5:24:13 PM): Have others posted yet?
spies3Jessica (5:24:34 PM): 3 people posted
spies3Jessica (5:24:43 PM): +sam
spies3Jennipher (5:25:07 PM): Cool
spies3Jessica (5:25:19 PM): It seems like it will be fun
spies3Jennipher (5:25:38 PM): Yeah...
spies3Jennipher (5:25:50 PM): I just don't get the secrecy
spies3Jessica (5:26:24 PM): so people can do crazy stuff
spies3Jessica (5:26:32 PM): and not face the reprecussions
spies3Jennipher (5:27:53 PM): Oh, ok....
spies3Jennipher (5:28:00 PM): Should be cool
spies3Jessica (5:28:04 PM): yeah
spies3Jennipher (5:28:28 PM): Have you talked to Rei since Friday's exile?
spies3Jessica (5:28:51 PM): I dont think so
spies3Jennipher (5:29:01 PM): Oh, ok...Just wonderinf
spies3Jennipher (5:29:05 PM): *wondering
spies3Jessica (5:29:06 PM): have you?
spies3Jennipher (5:29:14 PM): She seems to be keeping a low profile
spies3Jennipher (5:29:16 PM): Nope
spies3Jennipher (5:29:32 PM): Have you talked to any of the new people, some more?
spies3Jessica (5:29:55 PM): a bit to taylor now
spies3Jessica (5:30:03 PM): mostly just trina
spies3Jennipher (5:30:17 PM): Oh, ok...cool
spies3Jessica (5:30:17 PM): she seems trustworthy
spies3Jennipher (5:30:29 PM): What kind of vibe do you get from them?
spies3Jennipher (5:30:31 PM): Yeah....
spies3Jennipher (5:30:35 PM): I think so too
spies3Jessica (5:34:20 PM): She seems to be a citizen who is trying to be helpful
spies3Jennipher (5:34:31 PM): I agree
spies3Jessica (5:34:36 PM): Definately not like a spy
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spies3Jessica (10:24:50 PM): Hello
spies3Anneliese (10:26:16 PM): hey there
spies3Jessica (10:28:02 PM): Are you sure this isn't some ploy you set up?
spies3Jessica (10:28:21 PM): I really dont want this all to go down the wrong path
spies3Anneliese (10:32:46 PM): what do you mean? how would this be setting me up?
spies3Anneliese (10:32:52 PM): and who would be setting me up?
spies3Jessica (10:33:22 PM): I am not acussing you. I just mean that if this is a plan you made for whatever, I dont think we should potentially waste an exile
spies3Anneliese (10:34:01 PM): I didn't make any plans Jess...
spies3Anneliese (10:34:16 PM): Jack just brought up a good point, and I'm still waiting to see if Sam has answered my questions
spies3Jessica (10:34:28 PM): the confessional thread versus if the whole forum is a confessional?
spies3Jessica (10:34:36 PM): we were talking about that
spies3Anneliese (10:34:51 PM): Yes.
spies3Anneliese (10:34:58 PM): That's what I asked Sam earlier in the day
spies3Anneliese (10:50:14 PM): We've got a problem.
spies3Jessica (10:50:26 PM): oh god, what
spies3Anneliese (10:50:53 PM): Sam said the worst must be spelled correctly in the confessional thread.
spies3Anneliese (10:51:09 PM): Which means the reason we only have 6 points is because you and Tenchi didn't do that, not that you're spies
spies3Anneliese (10:51:19 PM): so we need to think of something QUICK before exile, or we're screwed...
spies3Jessica (10:51:38 PM): omg
spies3Jessica (10:51:56 PM): can we tell trina?
spies3Jessica (10:52:04 PM): of course
spies3Jessica (10:52:07 PM): right?
spies3Anneliese (10:52:18 PM): we've gotta tell SOMEONE
spies3Anneliese (10:52:23 PM): Who are we getting rid of tomorrow now?
spies3Jessica (10:52:55 PM): I was thiking brooks before this whole points thing
spies3Anneliese (10:54:31 PM): Jack wants Jenn so you talk it out I guess
spies3Anneliese (10:55:27 PM): based on this week's events I would say Jenn as well
spies3Anneliese (10:55:35 PM): she panicked for my word before Imprisonment...
spies3Anneliese (10:55:41 PM): I dunno, that's my two cents.
spies3Jessica (10:56:07 PM): Ahh, I forgot about that
spies3Jessica (10:56:20 PM): hmmm
spies3Jessica (10:56:30 PM): I think she might be the right choice
spies3Anneliese (11:01:00 PM): it's pretty clear that this week will either be Brooks, Jenn, or Bebe
spies3Anneliese (11:01:02 PM): or me...
spies3Jessica (11:01:22 PM): I think any theories thrown out were just precautionary
spies3Jessica (11:01:26 PM): about you
spies3Anneliese (11:01:45 PM): I can seriously not imagine how much the spies must have been celebrating so far this week
spies3Jessica (11:04:20 PM): Do you think we can let trina in on our suspects?
spies3Anneliese (11:05:09 PM): I don't see why not, although she won't take bebe very well
spies3Jessica (11:05:15 PM): hmm, should we leave that out>
spies3Anneliese (11:05:24 PM): I have a feeling she'll push Jenn...
spies3Anneliese (11:05:38 PM): Bebe is unlikely for this week anyway... although I feel like getting her name out IS slightly necessary
spies3Jessica (11:05:34 PM): or just say bebe is very minor suspect
spies3Anneliese (11:05:43 PM): Judith did feel strongly about her...
spies3Anneliese (11:05:45 PM): yes
spies3Anneliese (11:05:46 PM): I would do that
spies3Anneliese (11:05:51 PM): I mean right now who else DO we suspect?
spies3Jessica (11:06:04 PM): yeah
spies3Jessica (11:06:14 PM): it will probably be between brooks and jenn
spies3Jessica (11:07:18 PM): should we tell the masses that the points panned out?
spies3Anneliese (11:08:28 PM): I'm gonna make a thread
spies3Jessica (11:08:31 PM): k
spies3Jessica (11:08:40 PM): it would be better coming from the horses mouth
spies3Jessica (11:08:51 PM): expression, I am not comparing you to a horse
spies3Jessica (11:09:00 PM): ;P
spies3Anneliese (11:09:18 PM): lol suuuure
spies3Anneliese (11:09:23 PM): uh I feel like such a f*ckoff
spies3Anneliese (11:09:46 PM): although in my defense Sam never really elaborated on that confessional thing until tonight... but still
spies3Jessica (11:09:52 PM): Its completely understandable
spies3Jessica (11:10:10 PM): you saw potential spy behaviour and you made it public
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spies3Jessica (10:25:36 PM): Hello
spies3Jack (10:26:25 PM): Hi
spies3Jack (10:26:34 PM): Hey I wanted to ask
spies3Jack (10:26:40 PM): You said you posted Anneliese's word once, right?
spies3Jessica (10:26:45 PM): yes
spies3Jessica (10:27:02 PM): I made a thread titled "helping out Anneliese"
spies3Jessica (10:27:09 PM): and posted newcomer in it
spies3Jack (10:27:42 PM): Really now
spies3Jack (10:27:47 PM): Hmm
spies3Jessica (10:27:43 PM): yes
spies3Jack (10:28:52 PM): Ok
spies3Jack (10:28:55 PM): That does indeed change things
spies3Jack (10:28:59 PM): See
spies3Jack (10:29:02 PM): Tenchi did something similar
spies3Jack (10:29:09 PM): He posted his words in a thread outside of his Confessional
spies3Jack (10:29:19 PM): Anneliese seems to think that the word has to be included inthe confessional
spies3Jack (10:29:33 PM): I'm sure you've read up on the Burg about how we may have caught a spy?
spies3Jessica (10:29:40 PM): I thought the entire forum was our confessional
spies3Jack (10:30:09 PM): Oh, hmm
spies3Jessica (10:30:03 PM): I am trying to, but I have a hard time reading big blocks of text
spies3Jack (10:30:11 PM): Maybe
spies3Jack (10:30:12 PM): I dunno
spies3Jack (10:30:16 PM): All this termonology is new to me.
spies3Jack (10:30:17 PM): Argh
spies3Jessica (10:30:18 PM): This is my first spies game
spies3Jessica (10:30:33 PM): but I am a veteran at werewolf/mafia
spies3Jack (10:30:59 PM): Aye
spies3Jack (10:31:00 PM): Same
spies3Jessica (10:31:21 PM): So how many of the posts may have been wrong if what i did didn't work?
spies3Jack (10:31:35 PM): 3
spies3Jack (10:31:41 PM): 1 of yours & 2 of Tenchi's
spies3Jack (10:31:48 PM): I don't know, though
spies3Jack (10:31:55 PM): I thought the entire forum was a confessional, too
spies3Jessica (10:32:11 PM): omg, I just noticed the thread at the bottom
spies3Jessica (10:32:16 PM): I thought it was a confessional
spies3Jessica (10:32:21 PM): I mean the intro
spies3Jessica (10:32:32 PM): but I guess that is the confessional
spies3Jessica (10:32:34 PM): wow
spies3Jack (10:54:24 PM): Ok so we figured this out
spies3Jack (10:54:28 PM): Whoever would have thought
spies3Jack (10:54:37 PM): That very NEARLY screwed us
spies3Jessica (10:54:54 PM): well, we did reveal our voting group and are ripe targets for impris
spies3Jack (10:55:25 PM): But it does help to narrow down the suspect list.
spies3Jack (10:58:33 PM): So you think Brooks is a good target?
spies3Jessica (10:58:57 PM): I was thinking brooks before this whole points thing arose
spies3Jessica (10:59:15 PM): but did anneliese tell you about jenn?
spies3Jack (11:00:43 PM): Yeah
spies3Jack (11:00:49 PM): Both seem decent targets to me
spies3Jack (11:00:54 PM): Now
spies3Jack (11:01:02 PM): Here's a comforting fact...
spies3Jack (11:01:12 PM): IF Anneliese is telling the truth
spies3Jack (11:01:27 PM): We can be fairly certain that you, me, Tenchi, Reicheru, and Anneliese are citizens
spies3Jessica (11:01:35 PM): that is great
spies3Jack (11:02:21 PM): That leaves Arthur, Brooks, Bebe, Claire, Shane, Raphael, Bruce, Jennipher, Matthew, Jordan, Talyor, Trina, Miles, and Claire
spies3Jack (11:02:32 PM): 14 suspects
spies3Jack (11:02:34 PM): 5 spies
spies3Jack (11:02:37 PM): 1/3 shot
spies3Jessica (11:04:53 PM): There is no harm in letting trina in on our suspects, right?
spies3Jack (11:05:13 PM): Suppose not
spies3Jack (11:05:42 PM): Here's the other thing...
spies3Jack (11:05:49 PM): We started off with more players than the other team
spies3Jack (11:05:55 PM): Which means that chances are, there are 3 spies in our group
spies3Jack (11:06:07 PM): But only 5 of the names listed are from our group
spies3Jack (11:06:14 PM): I'm going to guess that only two of them are spies
spies3Jack (11:06:25 PM): Which gives us about a 40% shot, if that's the case.
spies3Jessica (11:13:07 PM): So jenn would be our best option odds wise of the three
spies3Jack (11:14:51 PM): I suppose
spies3Jack (11:15:09 PM): There are a couple reasons I trust Anneliese
spies3Jack (11:15:33 PM): 1) What Reicheru said makes sense. She picked the number 27 as the number of times required to post the word, and did so before she realized there was another batch of players.
spies3Jack (11:15:40 PM): That's a pretty high goal
spies3Jack (11:16:02 PM): 2) She picked the number SIX for the # of times we posted the words. Lo and behold, it matched perfectly with the stories people told
spies3Jessica (11:16:39 PM): Yeah, they are both really good points
spies3Jessica (11:17:03 PM): I think she is definately a citizen
spies3Jessica (11:17:25 PM): also it seems very likely that she was the one who was going to be imprisoned
spies3Jack (11:17:55 PM): Aye
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spies3Jessica (10:25:44 PM): Hi trina
spies3trina (10:25:55 PM): hi jessica
spies3Jessica (10:26:00 PM): did you watch heroes?
spies3trina (10:26:07 PM): did you see finale of heroes?
spies3trina (10:26:09 PM): lol
spies3Jessica (10:26:04 PM): yeah
spies3Jessica (10:26:06 PM): lol
spies3trina (10:26:19 PM): i give it a 7/10
spies3Jessica (10:26:18 PM): I loved it
spies3trina (10:26:26 PM): not the best season finale but sitll good nonetheless
spies3trina (10:26:31 PM): i thought it was so anticlimatic lol
spies3trina (10:26:38 PM): heroes comes in and stabs sylar...done lol
spies3trina (10:26:41 PM): *hiro
spies3Jessica (10:26:38 PM): the big fight could have been better
spies3trina (10:26:50 PM): yea definitely
spies3trina (10:26:56 PM): i thought the ending was interesting
spies3trina (10:27:00 PM): i thought it was 2 hrs from that
spies3trina (10:27:07 PM): i was like...omg another episode? YESS
spies3Jessica (10:27:20 PM): yeah
spies3Jessica (10:27:37 PM): But it seemed like they had to do that to let us know it wasn't a series finale
spies3trina (10:27:59 PM): right and they lefft a lot of loose ends hanging out in the open
spies3Jessica (10:28:33 PM): like the person worse than sylar
spies3trina (10:28:44 PM): exactly
spies3Jessica (10:28:38 PM): I got chills
spies3trina (10:28:48 PM): i thought it was the blakc dude
spies3trina (10:28:48 PM): lol
spies3trina (10:28:57 PM): but then he turned out to be compassionate and kind lol
spies3trina (10:32:00 PM): so who are you voting for this exile
spies3trina (10:32:04 PM): reicheru or tenchi really?
spies3trina (10:32:09 PM): i think its coming down to them two
spies3Jessica (10:33:39 PM): I am not sure
spies3Jessica (10:34:02 PM): There may be a whole other twist with the specifics of annie's bunker
spies3trina (10:34:41 PM): im still so confused as to that lol
spies3trina (10:34:49 PM): you told you posted once, i know jack posted once
spies3Jessica (10:34:43 PM): me too
spies3Jessica (10:34:52 PM): but I may have done it wrong
spies3trina (10:35:07 PM): how did you post it?
spies3Jessica (10:35:10 PM): I made a new thread in my forum
spies3Jessica (10:35:40 PM): I thought the whole forum was a confessional, but jack brought up that there is a thread titled welcome to your confessional
spies3Jessica (10:35:52 PM): so if that thread was it, then I did it wrong
spies3Jessica (10:35:56 PM): so did tenchi
spies3trina (10:36:07 PM): ohhh makes sense
spies3Jessica (10:36:16 PM): that would mean the numbers come out right I think
spies3Jessica (10:36:24 PM): annie is just waiting on word from sam
spies3trina (10:36:51 PM): if the numbers come out right then everyone is safe ?
spies3Jessica (10:36:54 PM): from exile anyway
spies3trina (10:37:10 PM): yeah
spies3Jessica (10:37:08 PM): that studder may have put us all up for impris
spies3trina (10:37:39 PM): you think its a mistake that spies may notice?
spies3Jessica (10:37:49 PM): well, if there are no spies in the group, they must already know
spies3trina (10:38:09 PM): hmm right
spies3trina (10:38:19 PM): aiieyah..this is so confusing lol
spies3Jessica (10:38:18 PM): talk about it
spies3Jessica (10:38:29 PM): I am not even 100% sure and it could be maligning me
spies3trina (10:38:55 PM): reicheru openly accused several people of being spies and i was shocked she suspected you and jack a lot lol
spies3trina (10:39:14 PM): i guess you truly were right when you said you guys werent as close as people said
spies3Jessica (10:39:19 PM): I thought I was close with rei
spies3Jessica (10:39:44 PM): It takes chaos like this to show you just who will throw you under the bus
spies3trina (10:40:20 PM): exactly but if reicheru turns out ot be a spy doesnt it clear your name?
spies3Jessica (10:40:19 PM): I know
spies3Jessica (10:40:29 PM): I think either way, rei is playing for herself
spies3trina (10:40:39 PM): yah at this point
spies3trina (10:40:47 PM): she has to..she has a huge target on her back
spies3Jessica (10:40:52 PM): even earlier with this supposed role fake she pulled
spies3trina (10:41:21 PM): yah
spies3Jessica (10:41:44 PM): If sam says that posts anywhere in the forum count and that our group isn't solid, I think I may vote rei over tenchi
spies3trina (10:42:16 PM): i at first thought rei so many times
spies3trina (10:42:21 PM): and was 100% sure
spies3trina (10:42:35 PM): but reicheru has defended herself consistently
spies3trina (10:42:53 PM): and pretty well . tenchi has just not defended himself as good as reich i believe
spies3Jessica (10:42:57 PM): hmmm
spies3Jessica (10:43:07 PM): I havent looked at it like that
spies3Jessica (10:43:22 PM): I usually like to look at the odds foremost
spies3trina (10:43:34 PM): odds of who is a spy?
spies3Jessica (10:43:35 PM): and it is split 50-50 for who is a spy between the two
spies3Jessica (10:43:47 PM): assuming there is a miscount in the posts
spies3trina (10:44:33 PM): i dont even know how the burg is going to vote
spies3trina (10:44:36 PM): its just that crazy
spies3trina (10:44:40 PM): i dont know what to think
spies3Jessica (10:44:36 PM): and if I base it purely on who I would rather lose if we hit a citizen then had to go for the other, I am thinking I would rather lose rei first of the two
spies3trina (10:44:52 PM): makes sense
spies3Jessica (10:44:56 PM): she has played dangerously if she is cit
spies3Jessica (10:45:02 PM): she fake claimed a role
spies3trina (10:45:14 PM): but only told one person
spies3Jessica (10:45:14 PM): there is more
spies3Jessica (10:45:28 PM): but I dont want word of this to get back to rei, can you keep a secret
spies3trina (10:45:46 PM): of course always
spies3Jessica (10:46:04 PM): When we were talking at exile when annie was shown as vulnerable...
spies3Jessica (10:46:16 PM): annie told me to post that either tenchi or rei was a spy
spies3trina (10:46:23 PM): you mean impriosnment?
spies3Jessica (10:46:21 PM): yeah
spies3Jessica (10:46:33 PM): sorry I am not used to this terminoligy
spies3trina (10:46:45 PM): lol odnt worry about it
spies3trina (10:46:48 PM): i mess up on typing all the time
spies3Jessica (10:47:02 PM): ok, so annie told me to post in the burg if she didn't make it
spies3Jessica (10:47:11 PM): that tenchi or rei was a spy
spies3Jessica (10:47:20 PM): I was talking to rei as well
spies3Jessica (10:47:30 PM): she knew annie wanted us to post it
spies3trina (10:47:47 PM): rei knew that annie wanted her to post that?
spies3Jessica (10:47:47 PM): yeah
spies3Jessica (10:47:50 PM): I think anyway
spies3Jessica (10:47:56 PM): she knew that annie wanted me too
spies3Jessica (10:48:17 PM): at the time, I trusted rei over tenchi because I hadn't heard of her false role claim
spies3trina (10:48:31 PM): right
spies3trina (10:48:37 PM): because only anne knew and she kept it well lol
spies3Jessica (10:48:34 PM): Rei didn't want me to post it in the burg
spies3Jessica (10:48:37 PM): if annie went
spies3trina (10:48:55 PM): well its a huge accusation lol
spies3Jessica (10:48:55 PM): because if tenchi was imprisoned as a spy that would confirm rei as a citizen
spies3Jessica (10:49:08 PM): and she would be imprisoned next
spies3trina (10:49:18 PM): definitely
spies3Jessica (10:49:26 PM): In spies, if a citizen is imprisoned, they lose even if the citizens win
spies3Jessica (10:49:35 PM): so she wanted to win
spies3trina (10:49:43 PM): and reicheru doesnt want to lose
spies3trina (10:49:45 PM): ahh i get it
spies3Jessica (10:49:40 PM): yeah
spies3Jessica (10:49:52 PM): so she wanted me to form a voting block for tenchi with her
spies3Jessica (10:49:57 PM): I agreed with her
spies3Jessica (10:50:12 PM): before I heard of her other suspicious activities
spies3Jessica (10:50:19 PM): although I found it weird
spies3trina (10:50:31 PM): and now they're getting split apart lol
spies3trina (10:50:37 PM): at least i assume they are
spies3Jessica (10:51:03 PM): I am worried because rei was willing to put the entire citizen cause at risk so she wouldn't be imprisoned
spies3Jessica (10:51:14 PM): that is the second time she has done that with the role claim
spies3trina (10:51:35 PM): well i personalyl feel she put herself more at risk for doing so
spies3trina (10:51:44 PM): claiing to have a role and not knowing if anne is a spy or not
spies3trina (10:51:46 PM): is very risky
spies3Jessica (10:51:46 PM): wait\
spies3trina (10:51:54 PM): but i dont think she put citizens at risk at all
spies3Jessica (10:51:50 PM): none of this matters
spies3trina (10:51:56 PM): because of that
spies3trina (10:52:17 PM): but yeah i understand how you feel rei coud jeopardize the citizens
spies3trina (10:52:28 PM): based on waht you said and that is why she should go over tenchi
spies3trina (10:52:38 PM): and it makes sense
spies3Jessica (10:52:58 PM): annie said that the way tenchi and I posted the word didn't count
spies3Jessica (10:53:04 PM): so the group is clean
spies3Jessica (10:53:07 PM): it all adds up
spies3trina (10:53:18 PM): really?
spies3trina (10:53:32 PM): except jennipher that is
spies3Jessica (10:53:26 PM): the three missing posts are because tenchi and I put them in new threads
spies3Jessica (10:53:34 PM): yes, she could still know
spies3trina (10:53:45 PM): yeahh
spies3trina (10:53:56 PM): so you're not supposed to put them in new threads at all
spies3Jessica (10:53:56 PM): no
spies3trina (10:54:05 PM): but rather in "welcome to my confessional you said"?
spies3Jessica (10:54:13 PM): the thread I thought was the intro to the confessional forum was the actual confessional
spies3trina (10:55:01 PM): so confused lol
spies3trina (10:55:03 PM): but whatever
spies3trina (10:55:15 PM): there was an intro post in your own person confessional
spies3trina (10:55:20 PM): labeled "welcome to my confessional"
spies3Jessica (10:55:21 PM): yeah
spies3trina (10:55:33 PM): this is the thread that you're supposed to post in
spies3trina (10:55:39 PM): but you and tenchi created a new thread
spies3Jessica (10:55:39 PM): yeah
spies3trina (10:55:48 PM): ohh i see
spies3Jessica (10:55:52 PM): i guess he thought like me that the whole forum was our confessional
spies3trina (10:56:56 PM): okk so if you guys are cleared we're back to square 1 again lol
spies3Jessica (10:57:09 PM): yeah
spies3trina (11:01:42 PM): meh i hope a new suspect arises quick then lol
spies3trina (11:01:46 PM): and a good one to say the least
spies3Jessica (11:01:47 PM): we have 3
spies3Jessica (11:01:58 PM): but I dont know if anne wants me to say anything just yet
spies3trina (11:02:23 PM): its fine. dont worry about it
spies3trina (11:03:20 PM): maybe anneliese will tell me lol
spies3trina (11:03:22 PM): u think she will?
spies3Jessica (11:03:55 PM): I dont see why not
spies3Jessica (11:03:58 PM): I trust you
spies3Jessica (11:04:07 PM): does anne trust you from what you think
spies3trina (11:04:18 PM): i hope so lol
spies3Jessica (11:05:41 PM): ok
spies3Jessica (11:05:51 PM): they are jenn, brooks , and bebe
spies3Jessica (11:05:55 PM): in that order
spies3trina (11:06:10 PM): brooks definitely i feel lol
spies3Jessica (11:07:02 PM): thats what I was thinking before all the hubbub went down
spies3trina (11:12:23 PM): ok anneliese cleared me up on the whole point thing
spies3trina (11:12:25 PM): i understnad it now
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spies3Jennipher (7:06:26 PM): Hey
spies3Jessica (7:06:42 PM): hi
spies3Jessica (7:06:58 PM): how are you?
spies3Jennipher (7:07:13 PM): Good and you?
spies3Jessica (7:07:17 PM): I'm fine, but there is something I need to tell you
spies3Jessica (7:07:30 PM): But you have to promise me you will tell NO ONE
spies3Jennipher (7:07:44 PM): Ok...sure
spies3Jennipher (7:07:48 PM): What's up?
spies3Jessica (7:07:48 PM): You are at risk tonight
spies3Jessica (7:07:56 PM): Annie doesn't trust you
spies3Jennipher (7:08:21 PM): Oh, wow....Really
spies3Jessica (7:08:15 PM): she told you a wrong word for the password
spies3Jennipher (7:08:26 PM): Darn
spies3Jennipher (7:08:30 PM): Oh, ok....
spies3Jennipher (7:08:33 PM): How come?
spies3Jessica (7:08:26 PM): its not delinnquent
spies3Jennipher (7:08:56 PM): Oh, ok...Do you know the real one?
spies3Jessica (7:08:49 PM): She was suspicious of you because you wanted to know the pasword before imprisonemtn
spies3Jessica (7:08:53 PM): I do
spies3Jennipher (7:09:13 PM): Yeah, and then she refused to give it to me
spies3Jessica (7:09:05 PM): I will tell you it so when annie sees you posted it, she will trust you
spies3Jennipher (7:09:21 PM): Oh, ok...Thanks
spies3Jessica (7:09:16 PM): its Juvenile
spies3Jessica (7:09:22 PM): But DONT tell her I told you
spies3Jessica (7:09:29 PM): she will never trust me again
spies3Jennipher (7:09:38 PM): Ok....
spies3Jennipher (7:09:40 PM): I won't
spies3Jessica (7:09:35 PM): dont tell anyone
spies3Jessica (7:09:42 PM): word will get mack to annie
spies3Jessica (7:09:45 PM): *back
spies3Jennipher (7:10:01 PM): Ok...I promise
spies3Jessica (7:09:59 PM): But you need to post it now
spies3Jessica (7:10:15 PM): I will help you through the confusing process
spies3Jennipher (7:10:42 PM): Ok...I will that
spies3Jennipher (7:10:46 PM): *thank
spies3Jennipher (7:10:51 PM): *thanks
spies3Jennipher (7:10:51 PM): lol
spies3Jessica (7:10:45 PM): Go to your forum
spies3Jennipher (7:11:13 PM): My confessional?
spies3Jessica (7:11:12 PM): sam should have a thread made titled "welcome to your confessional"
spies3Jessica (7:11:18 PM): yeah
spies3Jennipher (7:11:43 PM): Ok
spies3Jessica (7:12:02 PM): post it in there in big letters
spies3Jennipher (7:12:28 PM): By itself?
spies3Jessica (7:12:27 PM): yeah
spies3Jennipher (7:12:36 PM): Not in like a paragraph or anything?
spies3Jessica (7:12:37 PM): you could do both to be safe
spies3Jennipher (7:13:30 PM): Ok
spies3Jessica (7:13:35 PM): like one post just the word, one post in a paragraph
spies3Jessica (7:13:41 PM): but it cant be our conversation
spies3Jennipher (7:13:58 PM): Ok...
spies3Jennipher (7:13:58 PM): Got it
spies3Jennipher (7:15:56 PM): How will this help me tonight?
spies3Jessica (7:16:03 PM): It wont for tonight, we need to keep pushing
spies3Jessica (7:16:16 PM): but if you make it through, you will be confirmed with the rest of the group
spies3Jessica (7:16:32 PM): we need to push for the secondary target, brooks
spies3Jennipher (7:16:57 PM): Yeah....
spies3Jennipher (7:17:10 PM): Is that who you're voting tonight?
spies3Jennipher (7:17:16 PM): Not Carrie anymore?
spies3Jessica (7:17:18 PM): I am voting brooks
spies3Jessica (7:17:36 PM): carrie has fallen out of sight and we cannot get suspicion to stick to her
spies3Jennipher (7:18:20 PM): Ok....
spies3Jessica (7:21:15 PM): I will try to push to keep you in
spies3Jessica (7:21:31 PM): And hopefully this time you will also vote to keep yourself in
spies3Jessica (7:21:34 PM):
spies3Jennipher (7:22:23 PM): How so?
spies3Jennipher (7:22:29 PM): vote to keep myself in
spies3Jessica (7:22:34 PM): yeah
spies3Jessica (7:22:41 PM): that would be by voting brooks
spies3Jennipher (7:23:59 PM): Why?
spies3Jennipher (7:24:06 PM): Are others voting him too?
spies3Jessica (7:24:41 PM): That is what I have heard
spies3Jessica (7:25:01 PM): The suspects anneliese and I covered were you, brooks, and bebe
spies3Jessica (7:25:05 PM): in that order
spies3Jessica (7:25:12 PM): But I trust you
spies3Jessica (7:25:17 PM): I tried to push for brooks
spies3Jessica (7:25:27 PM): but I am not sure if they will go for him
spies3Jennipher (7:25:57 PM): They who?
spies3Jessica (7:26:40 PM): anne, rei, jack, tenchi\
spies3Jessica (7:26:51 PM): I am talking to rei and jack about it now
spies3Jessica (7:26:59 PM): and tenchi seems to have strayed from the group
spies3Jennipher (7:27:07 PM): Oh, Tenchi is voting me too
spies3Jessica (7:27:02 PM): no
spies3Jessica (7:27:09 PM): tenchi has strayed from the group
spies3Jessica (7:27:15 PM): we dont know who he is voting for
spies3Jennipher (7:27:37 PM): Oh, ok
spies3Jennipher (7:27:48 PM): So, those who want to vote for me are?
spies3Jessica (7:27:56 PM): I am not sure yet
spies3Jessica (7:27:59 PM): but you are a suspect
spies3Jennipher (7:29:41 PM): Ok
spies3Jennipher (7:33:50 PM): Jack won't talk to me....
spies3Jennipher (7:33:59 PM): Do you know if he is voting me tonight?
spies3Jessica (7:34:01 PM): It might be best that you not show that you know you are on the block
spies3Jessica (7:34:17 PM): then you could seem like you are getting info from a spy
spies3Jessica (7:34:28 PM): jack is in the air between you and brooks I think
spies3Jennipher (7:36:38 PM): Ok....Well, you know....I really could care less at this point
spies3Jennipher (7:37:06 PM): This whole game is about trying to save your own ass....and it's become tiresome and tedious to me
spies3Jessica (7:37:13 PM): C'mon, dont give up
spies3Jessica (7:37:22 PM): you are helping the team
spies3Jessica (7:37:30 PM): you did post the word, right?
spies3Jennipher (7:38:42 PM): Yes, just now
spies3Jennipher (7:38:48 PM): Twice, like you said
spies3Jennipher (7:39:00 PM): Juvenile
spies3Jennipher (7:39:02 PM): Right?
spies3Jessica (7:38:56 PM): yep
spies3Jessica (7:39:15 PM): but dont tell anyone I told you or the whole group will fall apart
spies3Jennipher (7:42:37 PM): I won't
spies3Jessica (7:43:00 PM): I hope miles gets online, I think we can swing his vote
spies3Jennipher (7:43:34 PM): Yeah
spies3Jennipher (7:43:40 PM): I talked to him earlier
spies3Jessica (7:57:10 PM): I think jack may go for brooks
spies3Jessica (7:57:14 PM): Not sure yet
spies3Jessica (7:57:23 PM): But remember to keep quiet
spies3Jessica (7:57:36 PM): you knowing what is happening will just make you look like a spy
spies3Jennipher (7:58:06 PM): How?
spies3Jessica (7:58:21 PM): Well, usually the exile targets dont know they are targets
spies3Jessica (7:58:38 PM): if you know, it will make it sem like you are a spy who was told by an ally
spies3Jennipher (7:59:01 PM): I guess
spies3Jennipher (7:59:16 PM): Either way, people see to have heard my name regardless
spies3Jessica (7:59:36 PM): If you try to sway people, try for new group players
spies3Jessica (7:59:51 PM): if you know jack and rei's motives it will only make you seem spy
spies3Jennipher (8:04:24 PM): What are their motives
spies3Jennipher (8:04:29 PM): ?
spies3Jessica (8:14:18 PM): sorry, didn't see your IM
spies3Jessica (8:14:29 PM): it is to potentially vote you out
spies3Jessica (8:14:35 PM): you arent supposed to know
spies3Jennipher (8:14:45 PM): Yeah, ok...
spies3Jessica (8:22:17 PM): new target
spies3Jennipher (8:22:33 PM): what?
spies3Jessica (8:22:37 PM): I think we may have to change who we want to go for
spies3Jennipher (8:23:21 PM): You mean not Brooks?
spies3Jessica (8:23:19 PM): I am not sure
spies3Jessica (8:23:28 PM): I dont think jack will budge
spies3Jessica (8:23:35 PM): I can try a bit more
spies3Jessica (8:23:42 PM): just dont IM him
spies3Jennipher (8:23:55 PM): Ok
spies3Jennipher (8:24:00 PM): He's voting for me, right/.
spies3Jennipher (8:24:02 PM): *?
spies3Jessica (8:25:11 PM): I think
spies3Jessica (8:25:19 PM): But I might be able to change his mind
spies3Jennipher (8:25:40 PM): Ok, It's alright
spies3Jessica (8:27:30 PM): I think he might vote brooks
spies3Jessica (8:27:39 PM): we need miles now
spies3Jessica (8:27:44 PM): damn, where is he
spies3Jessica (8:29:43 PM): But if they know I am filling you in, there votes will pile back onto you
spies3Jessica (8:29:59 PM): we are almost out of the woods
spies3Jessica (8:30:31 PM): When you are safe and anneliese sees one more point than she expacted then we can tell her
spies3Jessica (8:30:41 PM): and then the group will be 6 strong
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spies3Jessica (8:47:45 PM): still no miles....
spies3Jennipher (8:48:03 PM): Yeah, he was on earlier
spies3Jennipher (8:48:09 PM): So, I think he voted then
spies3Jessica (8:48:06 PM): was he votig brooks?
spies3Jennipher (8:48:25 PM): I don't think it was for me, but who knows
spies3Jennipher (8:48:28 PM): I think so
spies3Jessica (8:48:50 PM): I think the rest of the group is voting brooks unless they are doing something behind my back
spies3Jessica (8:49:00 PM): but I think we should be safe
spies3Jessica (8:49:11 PM): we just need to play it quite
spies3Jennipher (8:49:20 PM): Yeah, I hope
spies3Jessica (8:49:24 PM): as long as they have no reason to change, we should be safe
spies3Jennipher (8:49:32 PM): Listen, if I do go, I just want to say thanks for all you've done for me
spies3Jessica (8:49:31 PM): no problem
spies3Jessica (8:49:34 PM): I trust you
spies3Jessica (8:49:40 PM): why would I not help you
spies3Jennipher (8:50:42 PM): Thanks
spies3Jessica (8:50:58 PM): I think we have 7 votes
spies3Jessica (8:51:05 PM): 8 if miles is in too
spies3Jessica (8:51:10 PM): that should be enough
spies3Jessica (8:51:20 PM): I would be willing to sit safely on this
spies3Jennipher (8:51:52 PM): Yeah, like I said, I hope
spies3Jessica (9:11:04 PM): Remember not to burn your bridges, if she doesn't trust you, she may not want you in the group
spies3Jennipher (9:11:24 PM): Yeahm I understand
spies3Jennipher (9:11:35 PM): Byut Jessica, she already does not trust me
spies3Jennipher (9:11:42 PM): *But
spies3Jessica (9:11:34 PM): but she will tomorrwo
spies3Jennipher (9:11:48 PM): Why?
spies3Jennipher (9:11:58 PM): Because of the word
spies3Jessica (9:11:54 PM): yes
spies3Jessica (9:12:24 PM): but she will be more likely to believe it was arandom occurance if you push her
spies3Jennipher (9:12:45 PM): Yeah
spies3Jennipher (9:12:52 PM): I'm gone anyway
spies3Jennipher (9:12:59 PM): Literally and fig.
spies3Jessica (9:12:55 PM): We cant be sure
spies3Jessica (9:13:11 PM): And if you really believe that, you would sign out right now
spies3Jessica (9:13:17 PM): I KNOW you still want to be in this
spies3Jessica (9:14:06 PM): If we keep our cool, its not over yet
spies3Jennipher (9:14:23 PM): Yeah, I hope
spies3Jessica (9:32:49 PM): WTF, miles?
spies3Jennipher (9:33:13 PM): Yeah, I didn't know either
spies3Jessica (9:33:34 PM): I think they made a mistake
spies3Jessica (9:33:40 PM): I will miss you
spies3Jennipher (9:33:59 PM): Yeah, you'll see they did
spies3Jessica (9:38:31 PM): Sam said citizen, I guess I was right
spies3Jennipher (9:38:48 PM): Yeah
spies3Jennipher (9:38:51 PM): Like I sad
spies3Jessica (9:38:44 PM): I know you arent allowed to say any last words since you are gone
spies3Jennipher (9:38:54 PM): *said
spies3Jennipher (9:38:58 PM): I told you
spies3Jessica (9:38:50 PM): but goodbye
spies3Jennipher (9:39:03 PM): Bye
spies3Jessica (9:38:59 PM): I hope we can talk more when the game is over
spies3Jennipher (9:39:37 PM): Yeah, thanks
spies3Jennipher (9:39:40 PM): Me too
spies3Jennipher (9:39:58 PM): I guess we'll have to exchange real AIM SN's
spies3Jessica (9:40:03 PM): mine is DDRgasm573
spies3Jennipher (9:40:28 PM): Thanks...cool
spies3Jennipher (9:40:35 PM): Mine is lanijoy25
spies3Jessica (9:40:42 PM): I guess this is the last time I will see you as jenn
spies3Jessica (9:40:48 PM): bye
spies3Jennipher (9:41:33 PM): Yes...Bye Jessica
spies3Jessica (9:41:30 PM): bye
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spies3Reicheru (7:12:45 PM) has entered the room.
spies3Jack (7:12:45 PM) has entered the room.
spies3Jessica (7:12:45 PM) has entered the room.
spies3Jessica (7:12:48 PM): hello
spies3Reicheru (7:12:52 PM): Konichiwa again.
spies3Jack (7:12:52 PM): Hi
spies3Reicheru (7:13:03 PM): I am sorry to disturb you, I have one request.
spies3Jessica (7:13:13 PM): what is it?
spies3Reicheru (7:13:25 PM): No matter who the target is tonight, both of you vote for me.
spies3Reicheru (7:13:41 PM): Undo some of the colossal damage Anneliese has done.
spies3Jessica (7:13:53 PM): hmmm
spies3Reicheru (7:13:57 PM): And for God's sake, don't tell her, she'll probably publicsh in the burg.
spies3Jack (7:14:20 PM): Reicheru, you're not going to be targetted next Imprisonment of all people, so I don't know why you're so paranoid
spies3Jack (7:14:25 PM): Why would they target you over Anneliese?
spies3Jessica (7:14:28 PM): I just hope we dont fail to lynch who we want because we divide our votes
spies3Jack (7:14:32 PM): They probably DID target her last time
spies3Jessica (7:14:46 PM): I think if any of us goes next it will be anneliese
spies3Jack (7:14:52 PM): Anyways, I can't do that. I know the name of the person who protected us last time, and he's going to receive 6 penalty votes because of it.
spies3Jack (7:15:03 PM): I can't afford to risk no-one else receiving 6 votes
spies3Reicheru (7:15:09 PM): Damn.
spies3Reicheru (7:15:12 PM): Yes, that makes sense.
spies3Reicheru (7:15:25 PM): OK, no matter...
spies3Jack (7:15:26 PM): But in any event, you shouldn't have to worry
spies3Reicheru (7:15:37 PM): Worry about what? I was NEVER in any danger of exile.
spies3Reicheru (7:15:48 PM): Nor was I in any danger of imprisonment until Anneliese came along!
spies3Jack (7:15:51 PM): I never said exile
spies3Jack (7:15:52 PM): Imprisonment
spies3Jack (7:15:59 PM): That is what you're worried about.
spies3Reicheru (7:16:00 PM): Yes, I agree for this time.
spies3Reicheru (7:16:04 PM): But there are five spies.
spies3Reicheru (7:16:11 PM): best case scenario, I have to survive four imprisonments.
spies3Jack (7:16:13 PM): So let's focus on getting rid of THEM
spies3Reicheru (7:16:14 PM): I doubt it will happen.
spies3Jack (7:16:19 PM): Instead of worrying about surviving
spies3Jack (7:16:25 PM): Because if that's all we worry about, we're all doomed
spies3Jessica (7:16:56 PM): I agree with jack
spies3Jessica (7:17:09 PM): we cant risk hurting our main game just to survive
spies3Reicheru (7:17:18 PM): Jessica - our main game IS survival.
spies3Reicheru (7:17:26 PM): If the citizens outlast the spies, the ones remaining win.
spies3Reicheru (7:17:30 PM): I have never lost sight of that.
spies3Reicheru (7:17:44 PM): Who IS the target, by the way?
spies3Reicheru (7:17:56 PM): The only evidence I have now still points towards Carrie or perhaps Jennipher.
spies3Reicheru (7:18:02 PM): I am happy voting either of those two.
spies3Jessica (7:18:05 PM): Anne wants jenn
spies3Jessica (7:18:10 PM): but I am thinking brooks
spies3Reicheru (7:18:15 PM): Why Brooks?
spies3Jessica (7:18:25 PM): because he called out anne
spies3Jack (7:18:26 PM): Because he STARTED this whole mess
spies3Reicheru (7:18:50 PM): No, he did not, nor did Arthur - however obnoxious Arthur is.
spies3Jack (7:18:55 PM): He made Anneliese the target by calling her out
spies3Reicheru (7:18:55 PM): ANNELIESE started this whole mess.
spies3Jessica (7:19:04 PM): Did you hear why anneliese suspects jenn?
spies3Jack (7:19:06 PM): Anneliese then had to post away
spies3Reicheru (7:19:06 PM): Anneliese could have asked him what HIS power was.
spies3Reicheru (7:19:14 PM): Or done any one of a dozen things
spies3Reicheru (7:19:24 PM): Any of which would have been a thousand times better than what she DID DO!
spies3Reicheru (7:19:41 PM): Even now I think she is in denial about just how much damage she has done.
spies3Reicheru (7:19:52 PM): But anyway... how did Brooks even find out?
spies3Jessica (7:20:41 PM): Brooks only knew about her fake role she claimed to him, I think
spies3Jessica (7:20:56 PM): about the protection from imprisonment
spies3Reicheru (7:21:27 PM): And for that, she gives away the whole deal in public?
spies3Reicheru (7:21:28 PM): ...
spies3Reicheru (7:21:42 PM): Oh, let us shut up about Anneliese, I cannot talk of her without feeling angry.
spies3Reicheru (7:22:10 PM): I think Brooks' actions make him suspect, but it's hardly evidence.
spies3Reicheru (7:22:24 PM): I DEFINITELY think at least one spy voted jakub in the first revote, and that IS evidence.
spies3Reicheru (7:22:36 PM): Jessica, me, Judith are cleared...
spies3Reicheru (7:22:42 PM): That leaves very few left.
spies3Reicheru (7:22:55 PM): Of those few, Carrie is the only one who has not justified herself for me.
spies3Jack (7:23:34 PM): Jennipher
spies3Jack (7:23:40 PM): Wanna explain Jennipher, Jessica?
spies3Jessica (7:23:47 PM): k
spies3Jessica (7:24:02 PM): Jennipher asked anneliese what the password was before imprisonment
spies3Jessica (7:24:08 PM): not exile, but imprisonment
spies3Jessica (7:24:33 PM): so if she needed the password to bust it, that would explain why she went to ask before imprisonment
spies3Reicheru (7:25:03 PM): Hai, that does make some sense.
spies3Reicheru (7:25:16 PM): What I find difficult about Jennipher is her individualism - not just in words, but actions.
spies3Reicheru (7:25:27 PM): She votes alone in exile one, despite the fact that she knows she is up for elimination.
spies3Reicheru (7:25:31 PM): Would a spy do this?
spies3Reicheru (7:25:51 PM): She was only person to vote Tenchi, do not forget.
spies3Jessica (7:25:55 PM): I am in the air about jenn
spies3Jessica (7:26:23 PM): all my personal experience with her points to citizen, but things seem to point to spy by others experiences and voting and whatnot
spies3Reicheru (7:27:01 PM): Well at least it will make good excuse to not vote Carrie a third time.
spies3Reicheru (7:27:06 PM): OK, I vote for Jenn if you want.
spies3Jessica (7:27:28 PM): I am still unsure on jenn though
spies3Jack (7:27:30 PM): What are the points against Carrie?
spies3Reicheru (7:27:39 PM): Only her vote, and her total lack of reasons for switching.
spies3Jessica (7:27:43 PM): just her bandwagoning a few episodes ago
spies3Reicheru (7:27:49 PM): I THOUGHT she was being framed, which was a huge point against Judith -
spies3Reicheru (7:28:07 PM): But now we know Judith was citizen, that makes Carrie look more credible as a spy.
spies3Jack (7:28:13 PM): Do we know of anyone else who might be a good option this time around?
spies3Reicheru (7:28:19 PM): And again, SOME spy voted Jakub in that revote.
spies3Jack (7:28:22 PM): Carrie, Brooks, Jennipher. Most noteably Jennipher.
spies3Reicheru (7:29:09 PM): Brooks... I could be wrong, but I think he is patsy, not spy.
spies3Reicheru (7:29:35 PM): But again, I could be wrong... and the number of times I've been wrong already indicates I probably am.
spies3Jessica (7:29:36 PM): I was thinking spy pawn
spies3Reicheru (7:29:45 PM): Hai, patsy.
spies3Jessica (7:30:37 PM): but patsy could also mean spy
spies3Reicheru (7:30:57 PM): "Patsy" to me means someone set up to take the fall.
spies3Reicheru (7:31:05 PM): But anyway...
spies3Reicheru (7:31:31 PM): Let me ask you question. How much exactly do you know about Spies 1 and 2?
spies3Jessica (7:31:49 PM): never read em
spies3Reicheru (7:31:57 PM): I have.
spies3Reicheru (7:32:04 PM): Spies 1, the citizens form a safelist quickly.
spies3Reicheru (7:32:16 PM): They stay undercover, work in the dark, influence votes as best they can without being spotted.
spies3Reicheru (7:32:21 PM): Result: all spies dead by fifth round.
spies3Reicheru (7:32:28 PM): Spies 2: Everything gets posted in the burg.
spies3Reicheru (7:32:34 PM): And I mean everything, even huge conversations.
spies3Reicheru (7:32:43 PM): By round eight ONLY ONE SPY has been ousted.
spies3Reicheru (7:32:56 PM): That to me says a lot about what works and what does not.
spies3Jessica (7:33:27 PM): That could very likely be luck
spies3Jessica (7:33:42 PM): having a safelist with no spies that early on is very lucky
spies3Reicheru (7:34:09 PM): It was not luck... for one thing, in Spies 2, a spy was ON the safelist.
spies3Reicheru (7:34:20 PM): Not that I am saying that applies here.
spies3Jack (7:35:27 PM): How'd you catch em?
spies3Jack (7:35:58 PM): Guys
spies3Jack (7:36:02 PM): Jennipher is the play today
spies3Jack (7:36:14 PM): Receiving word that only applies further to what Anneliese said.
spies3Reicheru (7:36:17 PM): Well in Spies 2 the only reason the spy finally got caught is because he made some dumb mistakes earlier on.
spies3Reicheru (7:36:22 PM): And Jennipher I will go with.

[Jessica]

cont

spies3Jessica (7:36:23 PM): what is the word
spies3Reicheru (7:38:23 PM): spies3Shane: ROFL! Jennipher just told me she might vote Anne.
spies3Jack (7:39:49 PM): Yup
spies3Jack (7:39:51 PM): Exactly
spies3Reicheru (7:40:05 PM): I was thinking more along the lines of Shane and Carrie as spies...
spies3Reicheru (7:40:19 PM): But if everyone goes Jennipher...
spies3Jack (7:40:23 PM): Remember how Anneliese said that Jennipher tried getting the word from her before Imprisonment because Jenn thought that without destroying the bunker, Anneliese couldn't be imprisoned?
spies3Reicheru (7:40:31 PM): Hai.
spies3Jack (7:40:39 PM): Well lo and behold, someone protected Anneliese and no one wound up imprisoned
spies3Jack (7:40:45 PM): Now Jennipher wants her exiled all of a sudden?
spies3Reicheru (7:41:13 PM): Jennipher does not want her exiled. Or else she's plain mad.
spies3Reicheru (7:41:17 PM): Let me ask her.
spies3Reicheru (7:41:53 PM): Tenchi said HE would vote Anneliese earlier on, remember.
spies3Jessica (7:42:29 PM): Yeah, tenchi asked me if I trusted anne, I think he was trying to get my vote
spies3Jessica (7:55:32 PM): So we are voting jenn?
spies3Reicheru (7:55:40 PM): If everyone else is, I am.
spies3Jessica (7:55:55 PM): I would rather not, but we need to vote together
spies3Reicheru (7:56:00 PM): I would rather split the votes, but I guess that is out of the question.
spies3Jack (7:56:04 PM): Who'd you rather go for?
spies3Jessica (7:56:09 PM): brooks
spies3Jack (7:56:16 PM): Well we can split them somewhat
spies3Jack (7:56:20 PM): I agree that we should
spies3Jessica (7:56:25 PM): Me too
spies3Jack (7:56:29 PM): I'll go for Brooks I guess
spies3Jessica (7:56:45 PM): I will too
spies3Reicheru (7:56:48 PM): Actually I do not mean that exactly...
spies3Reicheru (7:57:08 PM): I mean that there should be at least two names out there.
spies3Reicheru (7:57:18 PM): Then if a spy is exiled, we can see who voted them and who voted the other person.
spies3Jack (7:57:33 PM): Well, Brooks' name IS out there
spies3Jack (7:57:36 PM): W/e
spies3Jack (7:57:39 PM): I'll leave mine on Jenn
spies3Jack (7:57:42 PM): Since I already have her voted
spies3Jack (7:57:46 PM): You two figure it out?
spies3Jack (7:57:49 PM): Inviting Anneliese btw
spies3Reicheru (7:58:06 PM): Oh NO...
spies3Reicheru (7:58:13 PM): In that case, I will say goodbye.
spies3Jack (7:58:16 PM): Huh?
spies3Jack (7:58:17 PM): Why?
spies3Reicheru (7:58:25 PM): You think I want to talk to anneliese?
spies3Jack (7:58:33 PM): Do you think she's a Spy?
spies3Reicheru (7:58:40 PM): NO. NO. NO. NO. NO.
spies3Jack (7:58:42 PM): She helped CLEAR you
spies3Reicheru (7:58:56 PM): SHE HELPED MAKE ME AND THE REST OF US TARGETS FOR IMPRISONMENT.
spies3Reicheru (7:58:59 PM): What use is clearing me?
spies3Reicheru (7:59:09 PM): I am not in danger of exile at any point until she comes along anyway!
spies3Jack (7:59:11 PM): YOU WERE GOING TO BE EXILED
spies3Jack (7:59:15 PM): She SAVED you
spies3Jack (7:59:18 PM): And now SHE will be imprisoned
spies3Reicheru (7:59:25 PM): I WAS GOING TO BE EXILED BECAUSE OF HER SCREW UP.
spies3Jack (7:59:31 PM): No, YOUR screw up
spies3Jack (7:59:32 PM): YOU lied
spies3Jack (7:59:35 PM): YOU got Judith exiled
spies3Jack (7:59:41 PM): YOU screwed up way more than she did
spies3Jack (7:59:44 PM): She FIXED her screwup
spies3Jack (7:59:55 PM): And she helped make sure yours really WAS a screwup
spies3Reicheru (7:59:58 PM): How... the... hell... do... you... work... that... one... out?
spies3Jack (8:00:06 PM): Let's see
spies3Jack (8:00:14 PM): Your screwup put you out there as a suspect
spies3Jack (8:00:20 PM): And resulted in the exiling of Judith
spies3Reicheru (8:00:30 PM): ONLY Judith suffers as a result of that.
spies3Jack (8:00:31 PM): Hers only confused the hell out of us, but we worked it all out
spies3Reicheru (8:00:39 PM): You think I do not punish myself over Judith?
spies3Reicheru (8:00:45 PM): BUT I DO NOT PUT OTHER CITIZENS IN DANGER.
spies3Reicheru (8:00:49 PM): I am very careful NOT to do so.
spies3Jack (8:00:49 PM): I think you're being hypocritical
spies3Reicheru (8:01:03 PM): Even you and Tenchi would NOT have been at risk.
spies3Jessica (8:01:04 PM): c;mon
spies3Jessica (8:01:08 PM): both were accidents
spies3Jessica (8:01:12 PM): lets not get worked up
spies3Jack (8:01:19 PM): The only difference is that Reicheru is not accepting that fact.
spies3Jessica (8:01:21 PM): there is nothing we can do to change the past
spies3Jack (8:01:25 PM): She's being childish
spies3Reicheru (8:01:35 PM): Jack - Anneliese is delued about how much damage she has done.

spies3Reicheru (8:01:38 PM): So are you apparently.
spies3Jack (8:01:41 PM): Your refusal to talk to Anneliese is only hurting us
spies3Jack (8:01:56 PM): Oh I am?
spies3Jack (8:02:02 PM): Who was the one cussing up a storm earlier?
spies3Reicheru (8:02:03 PM): Right... get her to admit that she's killed us all, and I will gladly talk to her.
spies3Jack (8:02:06 PM): I don't think it was me.
spies3Reicheru (8:02:09 PM): CUSSING UP A STORM?
spies3Jack (8:02:11 PM): Yup
spies3Jack (8:02:15 PM): Need I get quotes?
spies3Reicheru (8:02:17 PM): DAMN RIGHT I WAS.
spies3Jack (8:02:24 PM): Exactly : Childish
spies3Reicheru (8:02:40 PM): So she fucks up once, makes me look like a total suspect, then fucks up AGAIN and clears me?
spies3Reicheru (8:02:54 PM): And now I am to be imprisoned in two episodes' time for certain?
spies3Jack (8:03:01 PM): In any event, your whole argument that she "put us at risk" is a load of dung.
spies3Reicheru (8:03:02 PM): I was never a target for exile until Anneliese came along.
spies3Jack (8:03:08 PM): EITHER WAY a citizen will be imprisoned
spies3Reicheru (8:03:12 PM): Well then, say put me and Jessica at risk.
spies3Jack (8:03:15 PM): Whether or not it is us is irrelevant
spies3Jessica (8:03:25 PM): Hold on everyone
spies3Reicheru (8:03:26 PM): Jack - the difference is, I was treying DAMN HARD to make sure it wouldn't be any of my friends.
spies3Reicheru (8:03:33 PM): She was trying DAMN HARD to make sure it WAS.
spies3Jack (8:03:44 PM): Oh, so now it's not an accident, huh?
spies3Reicheru (8:03:45 PM): Judith has every right to be angry about my betrayal.
spies3Jessica (8:03:49 PM): we can try to get the axact votes to get out jenn, and then use the rest to make our group look unstable
spies3Reicheru (8:03:51 PM): Do you think I do not have right to be angry about hers?
spies3Jack (8:03:53 PM): What an irrelevant thing to get worked up over
spies3Jack (8:03:56 PM): Anyways, keep ranting
spies3Jack (8:03:59 PM): I need to answer my IMs
spies3Jessica (8:04:08 PM): ok
spies3Reicheru (8:04:10 PM): I am not ranting... I am being very, very calm.
spies3Jessica (8:04:46 PM): if rei votes for anne, and I vote for brooks to save jenn, we will look like we are splitting apart
spies3Reicheru (8:05:13 PM): I am NOT going to vote a confirmed citizen.
spies3Reicheru (8:05:18 PM): Whatever Anneliese is, she is definitely that.
spies3Jessica (8:05:46 PM): ok, then vote for tenchi
spies3Jessica (8:06:13 PM): we can still divide our voted to look like we are cracking
spies3Jessica (8:06:55 PM): wait, raphael has two votes, right?
spies3Reicheru (8:07:24 PM): I have no idea, why should Raphael have votes?
spies3Jessica (8:07:24 PM): should we try to get him to put both on jenn so we can allocate more to dividing our group?
spies3Jessica (8:07:40 PM): He said he got a gift that gives him more votes
spies3Reicheru (8:07:40 PM): Jessica - I don't think it matters how we divide ourselves right now, to be honest.
spies3Reicheru (8:07:45 PM): Oh, right.
spies3Jack (8:07:47 PM): Guys
spies3Jessica (8:07:48 PM): we could at least try
spies3Jack (8:07:50 PM): Dividing might be a mistake
spies3Jack (8:07:54 PM): We only have 5 votes, I think
spies3Reicheru (8:07:56 PM): I agree with Jack on this.
spies3Jack (8:07:59 PM): We need more than six
spies3Reicheru (8:08:05 PM): I am just not convinced Jennipher is the correct target.
spies3Jessica (8:08:16 PM): who do you have in mind?
spies3Reicheru (8:08:27 PM): That is the problem, other than Carrie I really do have nobody at all.
spies3Jack (8:08:31 PM): Ok
spies3Jack (8:08:38 PM): Then let's do Jennipher since there IS something to go off of
spies3Reicheru (8:08:48 PM): Yes... there is also plenty in her favor.
spies3Jack (8:08:51 PM): But whoever we choose, I think we need all the support we can get
spies3Jack (8:08:58 PM): We need more than 6 votes, because of the penalty votes I spoke of earlier
spies3Reicheru (8:09:00 PM): OK, agreed.
spies3Jack (8:09:23 PM): Think you guys can gather any other support?
spies3Reicheru (8:09:35 PM): Shane will vote Jenn.
spies3Reicheru (8:09:39 PM): Other than that, probably not.
spies3Reicheru (8:09:48 PM): In any case I have to go now anyway.... I should have gone ten minutes ago.
spies3Reicheru (8:09:59 PM): Trina doesn't think Jenn is a spy.
spies3Reicheru (8:10:02 PM): She is voting brooks.
spies3Reicheru (8:10:17 PM): Are you sure the person with six penalty votes is not a spy?
spies3Reicheru (8:11:16 PM): OK... I have had it... I go.
spies3Reicheru (8:11:22 PM) has left the room.
spies3Jessica (8:11:40 PM): So who are our votes?
spies3Jessica (8:13:12 PM): or how many more importantly
spies3Jessica (8:13:33 PM): me, you, rei, anne
spies3Jessica (8:13:56 PM): have you talked to tenchi about it, or is his head still up his ass about anne
spies3Jack (8:15:06 PM): I might have Trina
spies3Jack (8:15:09 PM): Talking to Raphael
spies3Jack (8:15:13 PM): And he had the 3 extra vote thing
spies3Jessica (8:15:18 PM): hmm
spies3Jessica (8:15:23 PM): that seems like a good amount
spies3Jessica (8:16:47 PM): so we have our 4
spies3Jessica (8:17:05 PM): then 1 from trina and 3 from raphael if you can convince him
spies3Jessica (8:17:10 PM): 8 votes
spies3Jessica (8:17:51 PM): Oh, and I assume the person with 6 penalties will help too unless they are already included
spies3Jessica (8:18:01 PM): so 9 votes?
spies3Jack (8:19:12 PM): Plenty I think
spies3Jessica (8:19:46 PM): If we do split just a vote or two, we need to think which would most effectively take the target off our backs
spies3Jessica (8:20:39 PM): So we have a group of 5 from what is publically known, correct
spies3Jessica (8:20:53 PM): wait, tenchi being dumb is public too
spies3Jessica (8:20:56 PM): so 4
spies3Jack (8:21:10 PM): One should go to Anneliese
spies3Jack (8:21:15 PM): So she can be protected from imprisonment
spies3Jessica (8:21:22 PM): hmmm
spies3Jessica (8:21:35 PM): I could throw mine at anne
spies3Jessica (8:21:42 PM): I would seem most likely to
spies3Jessica (8:21:50 PM): correct?
spies3Jessica (8:22:01 PM): since rei and you were confirmed by her
spies3Jessica (8:22:09 PM): and tenchi will probably do it regardless
spies3Jack (8:22:35 PM): Yeah
spies3Jack (8:22:40 PM): That'd work I think
spies3Jessica (8:22:45 PM): wait
spies3Jessica (8:23:10 PM): after anne and my little post exchange in the burg it would seem like an obvious separation ploy
spies3Jessica (8:24:04 PM): Maybe if my vote seems like it is trying to save jenn
spies3Jessica (8:24:17 PM): then people will think I am in my old me/jenn/miles group
spies3Jessica (8:24:29 PM): instead of the rei/jack/anne/me
spies3Jessica (8:24:48 PM): then the spies will see a group of three
spies3Jessica (8:25:01 PM): one being anne, who is sure to get a few more realistic votes
spies3Jessica (8:25:49 PM): do you think that would work?
spies3Jack (8:25:54 PM): Yeah
spies3Jessica (8:25:59 PM): k
spies3Jessica (8:26:11 PM): so my best bet would be to vote brooks, right?
spies3Jessica (8:26:22 PM): I already expressed my opinion of him to a few people
spies3Jack (8:26:30 PM): Yup
spies3Jessica (8:26:31 PM): and I could get jenn and miles to vote with me
spies3Jack (8:26:37 PM): Brooks is the second best Candidate anyways
spies3Jack (8:26:42 PM): Either him or Carrie
spies3Jessica (8:26:44 PM): so even if it goes wrong
spies3Jessica (8:26:50 PM): but it should
spies3Jessica (8:26:52 PM): nt
spies3Jessica (8:26:55 PM): lol
spies3Jessica (8:27:03 PM): so you have raphael yet?
spies3Jack (8:27:09 PM): Probably
spies3Jessica (8:27:10 PM): he is an important vote
spies3Jessica (8:27:23 PM): do you think he could swing any others with him
spies3Jack (8:27:37 PM): He's already trying to
spies3Jessica (8:52:58 PM): I think I have disarmed jenn
spies3Jessica (8:53:07 PM): She thinks that brooks is going
spies3Jessica (8:53:17 PM): so she shouldn't try to sway anyone
spies3Jack (9:08:47 PM) has left the room.
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[Jessica]

A bit with trina

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spies3Jessica (8:21:16 PM): hello
spies3trina (8:21:32 PM): Hi Jessica
spies3trina (8:21:40 PM): are you a LOST fan?
spies3Jessica (8:21:33 PM): no
spies3Jessica (8:21:36 PM): never got into it
spies3trina (8:21:47 PM): oh lol drats.
spies3trina (8:21:58 PM): it's a good show. nothing in comparison to Heroes though
spies3Jessica (8:22:12 PM): I tried getting into it, but its just the kinds show you cant jump into
spies3trina (8:22:34 PM): exactly. You have to start from season 1
spies3Jessica (8:22:42 PM): I was so scared when sam said another exile
spies3Jessica (8:22:48 PM): I thought we had to vote on the fly
spies3trina (8:23:01 PM): i thought it meant right then and there
spies3Jessica (8:22:55 PM): yeah
spies3trina (8:23:24 PM): do you feel that its harder to trust people or gain the trust of people because you're not really "confirmed' yet
spies3trina (8:23:57 PM): like even though people say jack is confirmed, i still don't believe that to be all true.
spies3Jessica (8:23:51 PM): well, when anneliese sees that she got a point from my posting the word, I will be as confirmed as rei and jack
spies3Jessica (8:24:00 PM): but yeah, I know what you mean
spies3trina (8:24:16 PM): ok let me ask you this
spies3trina (8:24:21 PM): wait what was your word this round btw.
spies3trina (8:24:24 PM): i know what it was
spies3trina (8:24:32 PM): i wonder if it is the same.
spies3trina (8:24:38 PM): its begins with a "J" just to confirm i know
spies3Jessica (8:24:35 PM): yeah
spies3Jessica (8:24:36 PM): ju
spies3trina (8:24:51 PM): juv
spies3Jessica (8:24:44 PM): juve
spies3trina (8:24:58 PM): ok we got it lol
spies3Jessica (8:24:50 PM): lol
spies3trina (8:25:10 PM): it is these moments we share that i kinda feel
spies3trina (8:25:14 PM): that i can trust people ya know
spies3trina (8:25:31 PM): ok back onto that...when did you jack rei tenchi find out about anne's role and begin posting words
spies3trina (8:25:33 PM): or trying to
spies3Jessica (8:25:37 PM): I think it was episode 1 or 2
spies3Jessica (8:25:53 PM): I didn't get in on it until newcomer was the word
spies3trina (8:26:09 PM): ok well think of it this way..
spies3trina (8:26:11 PM): this is my thought
spies3trina (8:26:25 PM): what are the chances that...one of you, jack tenchi jess, reicheru
spies3trina (8:26:39 PM): talked to tyler, jakub, leena, audrey
spies3trina (8:26:44 PM): and said that you had a role
spies3trina (8:26:46 PM): that was the bunker
spies3trina (8:26:49 PM): and asked them to post the word
spies3trina (8:26:53 PM): dont you think a spy is smart to do that?
spies3Jessica (8:26:48 PM): hmm
spies3trina (8:27:02 PM): especially people who are antisocial
spies3Jessica (8:26:53 PM): never thought of that
spies3trina (8:27:20 PM): and people question why Leena was imprisoned
spies3trina (8:27:34 PM): or why Jack led the vote one way for Tyler
spies3trina (8:27:39 PM): and everyone was into Jakub
spies3trina (8:27:47 PM): what if jack had trust jakub a lot and knew that he was going before tyler
spies3trina (8:28:06 PM): im not trying to pin a target on jack by any means but thats why im like...jack and them is in no way conirmed
spies3Jessica (8:28:01 PM): Did jack evenm vote for tyler?
spies3Jessica (8:28:11 PM): I tihnk he voted jenn
spies3trina (8:28:27 PM): yeah
spies3Jessica (8:28:20 PM): tylers only votes were self cotes
spies3Jessica (8:28:22 PM): votes
spies3trina (8:28:35 PM): yep
spies3trina (8:28:53 PM): its jsut very hard to trust anyne at this moment. People are revealing information to Jack
spies3trina (8:28:56 PM): as well so it sucks
spies3trina (8:29:16 PM): And people are just falling for it. So i don't know.
spies3trina (8:29:24 PM): if he is a spy, he's probably the best spy in the series
spies3Jessica (8:29:20 PM): yeah
spies3Jessica (8:29:41 PM): I didn;t trust him early on, but he seems to have been thrust into the center of the citizens
spies3trina (8:29:59 PM): right
spies3Jessica (8:30:27 PM): Are you considering voting jack?
spies3trina (8:30:50 PM): i think it be suicide on my part because Ill be the lone vote
spies3trina (8:31:17 PM): and if he is a citizen, yeah its not going to look pretty lol
spies3trina (8:31:49 PM): jennipher had been thinking jack was a spy hardcore early on
spies3Jessica (8:31:41 PM): while I do like looking at stuff from every angle, I think this may be looking into it too much and crossing the lines into paranoia
spies3trina (8:31:54 PM): and she turns out to be a citizen
spies3trina (8:32:05 PM): right. and its understandable
spies3trina (8:32:22 PM): i really dont know who the target should be
spies3trina (8:32:28 PM): claire was insisting bebe
spies3trina (8:32:40 PM): and she does suspect you as well btw (dont tell her i told you)
spies3trina (8:32:49 PM): but i think other people suspect you as well
spies3Jessica (8:32:43 PM): as long as she isn;t mounting a bandwagon
spies3trina (8:33:01 PM): but there's no bandwagon right now for anyone
spies3trina (8:33:07 PM): everytime i bring up the name brooks
spies3trina (8:33:11 PM): she's always like..he's not a spy
spies3trina (8:33:17 PM): i bring up jack, she's like yeah lets go
spies3trina (8:33:21 PM): i bring up shane, she's like yeah lets go
spies3Jessica (8:33:24 PM): hmmm
spies3Jessica (8:33:37 PM): do you think maybe her and brooks?
spies3trina (8:34:04 PM): well im feeling if brooks is out, it clears clarie
spies3Jessica (8:34:16 PM): I wouldn't go as far as to say clears
spies3trina (8:34:28 PM): but i dont htink people are going to vote brooks
spies3trina (8:34:33 PM): ok well, sorta puts her down on the radar
spies3trina (8:34:42 PM): but i honestly dont know who to choose who to exile
spies3Jessica (8:34:39 PM): Brooks was my main suspect
spies3trina (8:35:00 PM): ill be willing to vote for Brooks this round
spies3Jessica (8:35:08 PM): oh, and did you stay longer than me last night at chat?
spies3Jessica (8:35:23 PM): I think i missed something but I had to leave early because of my headache
spies3trina (8:35:38 PM): i dont remmeber when you left
spies3Jessica (8:35:37 PM): a bit after sam
spies3Jessica (8:35:39 PM): I think
spies3trina (8:36:04 PM): i probably did but im not sure if my group chats are saved
spies3Jessica (8:36:14 PM): I was hoping it would be posted in the burg
spies3trina (8:36:25 PM): i know individual chats are saved but this client i use doesnt save group chats
spies3trina (8:36:37 PM): yeah but sam didnt stay for the whole time did he?
spies3Jessica (8:36:41 PM): I know he left before me
spies3trina (8:37:20 PM): yeah idont know. maybe someone else has it but i forget who was in the chat really
spies3trina (8:37:23 PM): there were so many names
spies3Jessica (8:37:41 PM): OMG
spies3Jessica (8:37:46 PM): have you seen the burg?
spies3trina (8:38:04 PM): yeah with the spy accusations and stuff
spies3Jessica (8:37:58 PM): wow
spies3Jessica (8:38:03 PM): when did that go up
spies3trina (8:38:13 PM): well not spy accusations but like notes
spies3trina (8:38:18 PM): like 30 min ago i think
spies3trina (8:38:20 PM): or around there
spies3Jessica (8:38:20 PM): have you went over it for clues?
spies3Jessica (8:38:36 PM): hmmm
spies3trina (8:38:47 PM): not really.
spies3trina (8:38:52 PM): it didnt seem to help me at all lol
spies3Jessica (8:38:57 PM): I dont think if I want to look for clues
spies3Jessica (8:39:07 PM): there could be a ton on reverse psycholgy
spies3trina (8:39:23 PM): exactly
spies3trina (8:39:34 PM): i just think its a nail in the coffin if we tried to look for exactly what is going on
spies3Jessica (8:40:22 PM): I remember hearing carries name a bit last night, but I forgot who was tossing it out
spies3Jessica (8:40:33 PM): do you know
spies3trina (8:40:48 PM): nope
spies3trina (8:40:55 PM): right now i only hear
spies3trina (8:41:03 PM): carrie, brooks, bebe
spies3trina (8:41:08 PM): carrie from you just now
spies3trina (8:41:16 PM): brooks from me , and bebe from claire
spies3Jessica (8:41:18 PM): I could have sworn I heard her name it the chat
spies3Jessica (8:41:29 PM): My headache must have been pretty bad
spies3trina (8:41:49 PM): mustve been a harsh headache then yeesh
spies3Jessica (8:41:48 PM): It was so horrible
spies3Jessica (8:42:09 PM): I think its because I have to get my glasses changed
spies3Jessica (8:43:57 PM): hmm, a quick search of " carrie" didn't yield any results
spies3Jessica (8:44:03 PM): it must have been after sam left
spies3Jessica (8:44:07 PM): or my imagination
spies3Jessica (8:44:19 PM): or possibly private IMs
spies3trina (8:45:10 PM): ooops sorry
spies3trina (8:45:12 PM): was awaygetting
spies3trina (8:45:14 PM): food lol
spies3trina (8:45:30 PM): i could try asking people if oy like
spies3trina (8:45:32 PM): you like
spies3trina (8:45:38 PM): but i dont know if that will yield any results
spies3trina (8:48:18 PM): hey i have ta go. LOST finale !
spies3trina (8:48:19 PM): ill see ya
spies3Jessica (8:48:25 PM): seeya
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[Jessica]

Talking about who it could be with the bunker bunch + trina.

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spies3Anneliese (7:47:40 PM): htye there
spies3Anneliese (7:47:48 PM): So I can type
spies3Anneliese (7:47:50 PM): hey there lol
spies3trina (7:47:54 PM): hiya
spies3Jessica (7:48:02 PM): Is jack not here for a reason?
spies3Reicheru (7:48:16 PM): Erm... he was not online a moment ago.
spies3Reicheru (7:48:18 PM): I check...
spies3Jessica (7:48:24 PM): he is now
spies3Reicheru (7:48:44 PM): I invite him.
spies3Anneliese (7:48:45 PM): wow I'm sleepy already
spies3Anneliese (7:48:46 PM): lol
spies3Jack (7:48:47 PM) has entered the room.
spies3Reicheru (7:48:51 PM): Konichiwa!
spies3Reicheru (7:48:56 PM): Good to have you with us.
spies3Anneliese (7:48:57 PM): Jack Attack
spies3Jessica (7:49:00 PM): mmmmm... poutine is delicious
spies3Anneliese (7:49:22 PM): If I didn't already know you were Canadian, I would now
spies3Jessica (7:49:27 PM): haha
spies3Jack (7:49:38 PM): Hi
spies3Jessica (7:49:47 PM): Its a shame there isn't poutine everywhere
spies3Jessica (7:49:53 PM): it would make the world a better place
spies3Reicheru (7:49:56 PM): So we share saki, poutine, and plotting...
spies3Jack (7:50:03 PM): *waves his hands and poutine appears*
spies3Jessica (7:50:25 PM): so it seems we may finally get to see carrie go?
spies3trina (7:50:33 PM): unless i put a stop to it
spies3trina (7:50:36 PM): which i might.
spies3Reicheru (7:50:37 PM): I think we have to try.
spies3Jessica (7:50:42 PM): oh yeah
spies3Jack (7:50:42 PM): Trina
spies3Jack (7:50:44 PM): Seriously
spies3Jack (7:50:51 PM): You need to use your ability this time
spies3Reicheru (7:51:01 PM): Well Trina... if you prefer us to go for a second target so you can use your ability and take Carrie out instead...
spies3Jack (7:51:08 PM): If you don't, I'd give an 85% shot of you being imprisoned
spies3Reicheru (7:51:17 PM): That is an idea, actually.
spies3Reicheru (7:51:31 PM): What if we all split votes...
spies3Reicheru (7:51:42 PM): Vote complete neutrals or Brooks...
spies3trina (7:51:47 PM): and if im bluffing?
spies3Reicheru (7:51:53 PM): And THEN have Trina use her ability so that she is not imprisoned?
spies3trina (7:51:55 PM): you guys will waste an exile as well
spies3Reicheru (7:52:04 PM): Trina - if that is the case, then we are f--ked.
spies3trina (7:52:06 PM): so i suggest you guys vote together
spies3Jack (7:52:11 PM): Well yeah
spies3Jack (7:52:18 PM): We do need to plan our votes, I agree
spies3Jessica (7:52:25 PM): so you are basically saying that you ARE bluffing?
spies3Jack (7:52:29 PM): But what I'm saying is don't NOT use your ability, heh
spies3Reicheru (7:52:43 PM): Hmmm... this puts us in an awkward position.
spies3Reicheru (7:52:57 PM): Anneliese, I do not suppose there is anybody who can check Trina for an ability
spies3Reicheru (7:52:59 PM): like they did me?
spies3trina (7:53:01 PM): just vote together
spies3Anneliese (7:53:08 PM): hmm...
spies3Jack (7:53:09 PM): The problem is I have no idea who would be a good candidate to usei t on
spies3trina (7:53:11 PM): i think its a good progress you guys ar emaking
spies3Anneliese (7:53:13 PM): not anymore
spies3Anneliese (7:53:13 PM): that was a gift Rei.
spies3Jack (7:53:15 PM): Carrie, maybe
spies3Anneliese (7:53:26 PM): okay, Trina's basically admitting she doesn't have it
spies3Reicheru (7:53:28 PM): Well we are going to vote Carrie anyway.
spies3Anneliese (7:53:34 PM): Let Trina play her cards tonight, we must vote Carrie regardless
spies3Jack (7:53:42 PM): Yea
spies3Anneliese (7:53:44 PM): We've let each other play the cards we like, tonight is her turn
spies3trina (7:53:52 PM): its my turn to play the cards
spies3trina (7:53:57 PM): and im doing the best i can
spies3Jack (7:53:58 PM): Alright
spies3trina (7:54:01 PM): you guys just dont know it
spies3Jack (7:54:03 PM): I'm fine by that
spies3Jack (7:54:11 PM): I'm just saying it would be in your best interest to use your ability
spies3Jack (7:54:17 PM): Just a little bit of advice is all
spies3Jessica (7:54:34 PM): Just one question, was carrie one of the people who accussed judy when she got those 3 extra votes?
spies3Jack (7:54:43 PM): I don't think so
spies3Jack (7:54:49 PM): I was one, so was Anneliese
spies3Jack (7:54:54 PM): I think the other was Reicheru?
spies3Jessica (7:55:02 PM): ok, at the time I though carrie may have done it
spies3Reicheru (7:55:03 PM): No.
spies3Reicheru (7:55:04 PM): Tenchi.
spies3Anneliese (7:55:09 PM): I still do not know the third accusation
spies3Anneliese (7:55:12 PM): was it Tenchi?
spies3Reicheru (7:55:14 PM): What?
spies3Reicheru (7:55:18 PM): I thought that was confirmed?
spies3Jack (7:55:19 PM): If it was, I didn't tell him to do it
spies3Reicheru (7:55:26 PM): I accuse Judith in exile TWO, not exile THREE.
spies3trina (7:55:31 PM): claire is voting bebe or jessica tonight
spies3Jack (7:55:32 PM): Oh
spies3Reicheru (7:55:33 PM): And therefore use up my accusation for Judith.
spies3trina (7:55:34 PM): she's actively pushing bebe
spies3Jack (7:55:38 PM): Well, we thought maybe they carried over
spies3Anneliese (7:55:43 PM): Yeah I didn't tell Tenchi to accuse Judith
spies3Jessica (7:55:46 PM): does she have a reason to vote me?
spies3Anneliese (7:55:46 PM): only one I told was Jack
spies3Reicheru (7:55:49 PM): You cannot use an accusation more than once.
spies3Reicheru (7:55:53 PM): That is definite.
spies3Anneliese (7:55:53 PM): that's why I was confused unless accusations carry over
spies3Jack (7:55:58 PM): Hmm
spies3Jack (7:56:01 PM): Well I have no idea then
spies3Reicheru (7:56:01 PM): So someone else knows who Judith is?
spies3Reicheru (7:56:04 PM): That is interesting...
spies3Jack (7:56:05 PM): I was told at literally the last minute
spies3Anneliese (7:56:16 PM): yes I was told to do it just minutes before, in case we needed it
spies3Anneliese (7:56:45 PM): I don't see why Carrie has a reason to vote you Jess...
spies3Jessica (7:57:02 PM): I was totally in the dark. I though carrie might have figured out and pulled a crazy move to save herself
spies3trina (7:57:12 PM): if carrie turns out to be a citizen
spies3trina (7:57:18 PM): you guys are essentially f*cked honeslty
spies3trina (7:57:31 PM): doesnt that throw your plans out the window?
spies3Jessica (7:57:31 PM): you guys?
spies3trina (7:57:33 PM): and connections?
spies3Reicheru (7:57:34 PM): I cannot see how that is possible, I can simply not.
spies3Reicheru (7:57:44 PM): Every spy possibility I have has Carrie and Miles in it.
spies3trina (7:57:55 PM): okay
spies3Reicheru (7:57:59 PM): Unless there are no spies at all in the first group, I do not see it.
spies3Jessica (7:58:00 PM): seriously, we have to get ONE eventually
spies3trina (7:58:02 PM): go for it
spies3Reicheru (7:58:19 PM): Trina - my top suspects are Carrie and Miles.
spies3Jack (7:58:20 PM): Honestly, I think the spies are playing a much more subtle role
spies3Reicheru (7:58:25 PM): If you do not choose one, the other would be better.
spies3Jack (7:58:26 PM): And Miles & Carrie do seem to fit
spies3Jessica (7:58:38 PM): I havent seen miles in ages
spies3Reicheru (7:58:44 PM): I just think we look for the wrong things...
spies3Reicheru (7:59:03 PM): We look for someone actively sabotaging thigs, when in fact it is US doing the sabotaging...
spies3Reicheru (7:59:09 PM): The spies just sit back and let it happen!
spies3Reicheru (7:59:21 PM): One thing I am alert for is people who suddenly become much more proactive.
spies3trina (7:59:25 PM): thank YOU
spies3Reicheru (7:59:25 PM): but I have not seen it yet.
spies3trina (7:59:32 PM): my god...thats how i felt all along really
spies3trina (7:59:45 PM): that you guys were sabotaging yourself with judith and jenipher honestly..it didnt make sense to me
spies3Reicheru (7:59:55 PM): Jennipher had nothing to do with me.
spies3Jessica (8:00:10 PM): sorry if I seem distracted,"so you think you can dance" is coming on
spies3Anneliese (8:00:13 PM): *sheepishly shuffles feet*
spies3Anneliese (8:00:25 PM): I want to watch that but I can't while I'm here lol
spies3Reicheru (8:00:26 PM): I am grateful that there is ONE citizen exile I do not help to organize!
spies3Anneliese (8:00:31 PM): Nobody will ever be better than Travis though
spies3Anneliese (8:00:54 PM): But anyway...
spies3Jessica (8:00:54 PM): I LOVED travis
spies3Reicheru (8:01:00 PM): Travis was great.
spies3Anneliese (8:01:00 PM): I agree about us sabotaging ourselves
spies3Anneliese (8:01:04 PM): which is why I turned to Miles
spies3Reicheru (8:01:07 PM): Hai.
spies3Anneliese (8:01:10 PM): the ultimate Under The Radar player
spies3Reicheru (8:01:18 PM): It is odd, everyone has their own reasons for suspecting miles.
spies3Reicheru (8:01:22 PM): With me it is his voting...
spies3Anneliese (8:01:24 PM): he IMed me for the first time today
spies3Jessica (8:01:26 PM): Early on in the game miles and I had a flirty thing
spies3Reicheru (8:01:28 PM): With Arthur it is his posts in the exile questions.
spies3Anneliese (8:01:29 PM): other times it is always me IMing him'
spies3Reicheru (8:01:35 PM): Which actually makes a lot of sense, Arthur is right there.
spies3Anneliese (8:01:42 PM): I found it quite funny that today when his time could be up he finally takes intiative
spies3Jessica (8:01:50 PM): we sorta had a hot tub scene that made sam warn us to keep it PG 13
spies3Anneliese (8:01:59 PM): lol
spies3Reicheru (8:02:00 PM): Hey, I have been warned that as well!
spies3Anneliese (8:02:14 PM): I'm too old for anyone to get higher than G
spies3Anneliese (8:02:17 PM): lol
spies3Reicheru (8:02:19 PM): It was a comment I made about Tenchi slicing my muffin... quite harmless really.
spies3Anneliese (8:02:24 PM): lmao!
spies3Jessica (8:02:29 PM): lol
spies3Jessica (8:02:49 PM): We actually soft-core cybered
spies3Jessica (8:02:51 PM): lol
spies3Jack (8:02:58 PM): Sandulous
spies3Jack (8:03:01 PM): scandulous
spies3Jack (8:03:04 PM): Or however it is spelled
spies3Reicheru (8:03:10 PM): No, I preferred your first spelling.
spies3Jessica (8:03:18 PM): You can read the log after the game
spies3Jack (8:03:21 PM): Whatever floats your boat <3
spies3Jessica (8:03:35 PM): unless sam takes it down
spies3Jack (8:03:44 PM): You know Sam loves it
spies3Jessica (8:04:18 PM): hot tub handjob
spies3Jessica (8:04:25 PM):
spies3Anneliese (8:04:36 PM): oh. my.
spies3Jack (8:04:40 PM): Really I am uncomfortable voting anyone at this point
spies3Jack (8:04:50 PM): I just think the evidence is very tight at this point
spies3Jack (8:05:06 PM): Statistically speaking there should be 1-2 spies in this room
spies3Jack (8:05:10 PM): Which is a bit unnerving
spies3Reicheru (8:05:12 PM): I do not know... there are a few people I am fairly sure are spies.
spies3Reicheru (8:05:21 PM): And a few people I am fairly sure are not (present company included).
spies3Jack (8:05:22 PM): That probability only increases each time we screw up
spies3Reicheru (8:05:27 PM): Hai.
spies3Jack (8:05:35 PM): Well, I agree
spies3Reicheru (8:05:41 PM): My worry is that with each spy comes an extra vote.
spies3Reicheru (8:05:50 PM): We get to the point that if ALL citizens do not work together, we could be toast.
spies3Reicheru (8:06:14 PM): We barely outnumber them three to one now... a few weeks ago it was almost five to one.
spies3Anneliese (8:07:10 PM): yes
spies3Anneliese (8:07:28 PM): as Jack and I have calculated though
spies3Anneliese (8:07:37 PM): right now our odds of catching a spy are almost about 40%
spies3Jack (8:07:51 PM): Well I'd increase that a bit more
spies3Anneliese (8:07:55 PM): which is great, and we're bound to get one soon
spies3Reicheru (8:07:59 PM): That is actually really bad... FIVE exiles and we do not have one yet?
spies3Jack (8:08:01 PM): Because I'm not pretty much convinced that Shane is a Citizen
spies3Reicheru (8:08:14 PM): You're NOT convinced?
spies3Reicheru (8:08:18 PM): Or you ARE convinced?
spies3Jack (8:08:23 PM): Woops
spies3Jack (8:08:26 PM): I mean now
spies3Jack (8:08:29 PM): not not
spies3Reicheru (8:08:34 PM): YEs, I agree.
spies3trina (8:08:36 PM): double negative woah
spies3Jack (8:08:40 PM):
spies3Reicheru (8:08:44 PM): I give Trina and Anneliese a good reason for that...
spies3Reicheru (8:08:54 PM): Shane basically sends me his vote for Judith, at my request.
spies3Reicheru (8:08:58 PM): With all his reasons, in detail.
spies3Jack (8:08:58 PM): Was it identicle to the one I used in the Burg?
spies3Jack (8:09:06 PM): kk
spies3Jack (8:09:13 PM): Well
spies3Jack (8:09:17 PM): Statistically speaking
spies3Jack (8:09:21 PM): There should be 3 spies in our group
spies3Jack (8:09:29 PM): Though there is a chance it could be more or less
spies3Jack (8:09:34 PM): More likely less than more
spies3Reicheru (8:09:34 PM): I think it is likely that there are...
spies3Reicheru (8:09:44 PM): Until recently I have gone under the assumption we only have two.
spies3Anneliese (8:09:54 PM): Yes
spies3Reicheru (8:09:59 PM): Miles and Carrie, to be specific.
spies3Jack (8:10:09 PM): There are 9 in our group
spies3Jack (8:10:24 PM): If we assume there are 3 spies, raw statistics say we have a 1/3 shot
spies3Reicheru (8:10:28 PM): Does anybody else occur to you guys, Jessica and Jack?
spies3Reicheru (8:10:32 PM): Apart from those two?
spies3trina (8:10:49 PM): Bebe should be frm. i have a storng feeling hse's a spy
spies3Jack (8:10:51 PM): But I know I'm not a spy, and I am confident that Anneliese & Shane are not. As a result, I'm sure Reicheru is not
spies3Jack (8:10:59 PM): That takes 4 candidates away
spies3Reicheru (8:11:02 PM): Hai.
spies3Jack (8:11:09 PM): 3/5 > 50%
spies3Jack (8:11:12 PM): 2/5 < 50%
spies3Jack (8:11:23 PM): Average that out at 2.5/5
spies3Jack (8:11:24 PM): 50%
spies3Reicheru (8:11:52 PM): That makes sense.
spies3Jack (8:11:57 PM): I would be amazed if there was only one spy in our group
spies3Jack (8:12:24 PM): 26 players
spies3Jessica (8:12:24 PM): my suspects in the original group are: Carrie, Miles, Arthur, Shane, the rest I am thining citizen
spies3Jack (8:12:30 PM): Shane?
spies3Jack (8:12:34 PM): Why Shane?
spies3Anneliese (8:12:37 PM): If Carrie is a spy I don't think Arthur could be
spies3Jessica (8:12:45 PM): sorry, I was just listing them in order of trust
spies3Reicheru (8:12:56 PM): I agree with Anneliese about Arthur.
spies3Jessica (8:13:04 PM): shane seems like he is the most likely of the "confirmeds" that could be a spy
spies3Reicheru (8:13:06 PM): He has had strong suspicions of Carrie int he past.
spies3Anneliese (8:13:19 PM): however if Carrie isn't a spy, I'm almost sure Arthur is
spies3Jack (8:13:37 PM): Why's that?
spies3Reicheru (8:13:37 PM): Arthur votes Miles.
spies3Reicheru (8:13:38 PM): He says.
spies3Anneliese (8:13:38 PM): but I'd prefer to go Miles regardless
spies3Anneliese (8:13:55 PM): how come with the Judith Exile, Arthur votes Carrie
spies3Reicheru (8:13:58 PM): So we cannot have them BOTH as spies unless Arthur is trying to cover his ass thinking Miles is gone.
spies3Anneliese (8:14:38 PM): and at the end says "I'm really starting to get mad that I'm with a bunch of dumbass citizens who keep targeting themselves"
spies3Anneliese (8:14:41 PM): but NOW he votes Miles
spies3Anneliese (8:14:45 PM): when he knows we need Carrie votes
spies3trina (8:14:47 PM): jack
spies3trina (8:14:51 PM): if no one came out to you
spies3Anneliese (8:14:54 PM): if he's so certain he had a spy back thenhe should go for her
spies3trina (8:14:56 PM): and says they saved whoever that was imprisoned
spies3trina (8:15:00 PM): then for certain shane is a spy
spies3trina (8:15:06 PM): i gathered that much while talking to you the other night.
spies3trina (8:15:12 PM): * mean a citizne
spies3Reicheru (8:15:14 PM): Citizen, you mean?
spies3trina (8:15:14 PM): sorry not a spy lol
spies3trina (8:15:16 PM): yeah
spies3trina (8:15:18 PM): my bad
spies3Anneliese (8:15:20 PM): lol
spies3Reicheru (8:15:27 PM): Yes, there is another reason to suppose Shane a citizen.
spies3Reicheru (8:15:32 PM): He did not have time to fake that vote he posted me.
spies3Jack (8:15:38 PM): Right, Trina
spies3Reicheru (8:15:41 PM): I only asked him for it about twenty five seconds before he did.
spies3Jack (8:15:51 PM): That's the idea I incorporated into my post earlier, as well
spies3Reicheru (8:15:52 PM): So unlses he keeps faked votes and convos at hand in case he is asked.
spies3Reicheru (8:15:55 PM): Shane is safe.
spies3trina (8:16:03 PM): who is shane voting for this exile?
spies3Jack (8:16:17 PM): Not sure
spies3Jack (8:16:45 PM): Anyone notice how only females have gone so far?
spies3Jack (8:16:58 PM): Oh
spies3Jack (8:16:59 PM): Except Tyler
spies3Jack (8:17:02 PM): And Imagine
spies3Jack (8:17:03 PM): Heh
spies3Jack (8:17:04 PM): Yeah
spies3Jack (8:17:06 PM): Forgot about Imagine
spies3Jack (8:17:14 PM): The shemale
spies3Jack (8:17:20 PM): But yeah, not sure about Shane
spies3Anneliese (8:17:22 PM): lol
spies3Jack (8:17:23 PM): Haven't spoken to him
spies3Jack (8:17:27 PM): Not since the exile
spies3Jack (8:17:33 PM): Or just after
spies3Anneliese (8:17:48 PM): Just to recall to everyone's attention, one of Sam's warnings in the "Spy Thread" - "Make sure you post fake conversations with citizens - you will need them later on"
spies3Anneliese (8:18:01 PM): Although I do trust Shane
spies3Anneliese (8:18:03 PM): a bit
spies3Anneliese (8:18:22 PM): it's still important to take notice of, he may have just been following Sam's warning and we shouldn't bank that as the only reason to trust him
spies3Jack (8:18:39 PM): Well, assume he did lie
spies3Jack (8:18:52 PM): We know for a fact that someone did save us from imprisonment
spies3Jack (8:19:05 PM): I made it well known that that person came to me and told me of this
spies3Jack (8:19:24 PM): If Shane lied, whoever really DID save us would know without a doubt that Shane is a Spy
spies3Jack (8:19:29 PM): Why didn't that person notify me?
spies3Jack (8:19:35 PM): Why didn't that person notify anyone?
spies3Jack (8:19:43 PM): Because, quite simply, that person does not exist.
spies3Jack (8:19:55 PM): Either that, or they are stupid beyond all comprehension
spies3Anneliese (8:20:37 PM): Yes I know, I was just making a point
spies3Anneliese (8:20:43 PM): Cause after this week with all the bluffs I've seen
spies3Anneliese (8:20:49 PM): we need to make ourselves immune to any more
spies3Anneliese (8:20:56 PM): No offense to Rei, Trina, or myself
spies3Anneliese (8:20:57 PM): lol
spies3Reicheru (8:21:30 PM): Was Jakub female?
spies3Jack (8:21:33 PM): Nope
spies3Jack (8:21:35 PM): Well
spies3Jack (8:21:39 PM): I didn't check personally....
spies3Jack (8:21:47 PM): I don't normally... check...
spies3Reicheru (8:22:02 PM): Hai... but I am just thinking, you say only females have gone.
spies3Jack (8:22:07 PM): Yeah
spies3Jack (8:22:11 PM): I was way off
spies3Reicheru (8:22:14 PM): I may be doubtful about IMAGINE, but JAKUB seemed certain enough!
spies3Jack (8:22:21 PM): Well I also missed Tyler
spies3Reicheru (8:22:30 PM): TYLER!
spies3Reicheru (8:22:33 PM): I miss him now.
spies3Jessica (8:22:34 PM): Have you guys given any thought that there might be a double imprisonment as well?
spies3Reicheru (8:22:35 PM): wait...
spies3Anneliese (8:22:36 PM): lol
spies3Reicheru (8:22:40 PM): He was exiled instea do fCarrie...
spies3Reicheru (8:22:48 PM): And if I could find him...
spies3Reicheru (8:22:54 PM): And had not taken a vow of nonviolence...
spies3Anneliese (8:22:58 PM): If there's a double imprisonment, then piece out
spies3Anneliese (8:23:00 PM): *peace out
spies3Reicheru (8:23:06 PM): I WOULD go ninja on his ass for that.
spies3Jack (8:23:08 PM): Yeah
spies3Jack (8:23:09 PM): I should say the same
spies3Anneliese (8:23:10 PM): lmao
spies3Anneliese (8:23:21 PM): I might fire a few rounds into the bastard
spies3Jessica (8:23:26 PM): do you guys think tenchi will vote with us?
spies3Anneliese (8:23:30 PM): I think Jessie and I get first dibs since we actually TRIED to turn him around
spies3Jack (8:23:32 PM): No, heh
spies3Reicheru (8:23:35 PM): Jessica - I am quite sure he will not.
spies3trina (8:23:35 PM): he;s going to abstain
spies3Jack (8:23:35 PM): Well maybe
spies3Jack (8:23:51 PM): In any event, I think we should target someone from our group
spies3Jack (8:24:02 PM): Just because so many of them are gone, and it's more likely there's a spy in our group
spies3Reicheru (8:24:08 PM): Hai.
spies3trina (8:24:14 PM): ig et so confused when you say "our group"
spies3trina (8:24:19 PM): keep thinking thhe people in this room
spies3Jack (8:24:23 PM): Yeah
spies3Jack (8:24:24 PM): I mean
spies3Reicheru (8:24:25 PM): The trouble is, if "we" target someone from the original players,
spies3Jack (8:24:29 PM): The originals
spies3Reicheru (8:24:33 PM): The spies might decide we are too much of a cohesive unit.
spies3Reicheru (8:24:42 PM): And want to split us up forcibly.
spies3Jessica (8:24:52 PM): I think that is inevitable anyway
spies3Anneliese (8:25:10 PM): Again, my bags are already packed lol
spies3Jack (8:25:20 PM): 9 in each group, chances are 3 spies in our group
spies3Anneliese (8:25:43 PM): mmhmm
spies3Jack (8:25:48 PM): Well Annelies I'm right behind you
spies3trina (8:25:58 PM): well if carrie isnt a spy
spies3trina (8:26:01 PM): you guys wont be imprisoned
spies3trina (8:26:19 PM): so there's the positive side i guess
spies3Jack (8:26:23 PM): Heh
spies3Jack (8:26:29 PM): A positive brought on by a negative
spies3trina (8:26:34 PM): right
spies3Jack (8:26:37 PM): Well
spies3Jack (8:26:38 PM): Unless
spies3Jack (8:26:44 PM): The spies might catch on to what we're doing
spies3Jack (8:26:46 PM): Targetting our group
spies3Jack (8:26:57 PM): They might target the other group to lower that probability
spies3Jack (8:27:24 PM): The thing is, they may know that imprisoning one of us(the group in here) will do no good for us
spies3Jack (8:27:30 PM): Since we're using that to our advantage
spies3Anneliese (8:27:31 PM): that's what I think the smartest thing would be to do
spies3Jessica (8:28:09 PM): I think sam should change the rules so imprisoned citizens win the game if citizens do
spies3Jack (8:28:20 PM): Yea
spies3Anneliese (8:28:24 PM): that's how I always play lol
spies3Anneliese (8:28:39 PM): I don't care what Sam's damn rules are, if citizens win, then I'll consider myself a winner
spies3Jessica (8:28:45 PM): same for my playgroup
spies3Jessica (8:28:53 PM): haha, same here
spies3Reicheru (8:29:24 PM): I do not know though... is part fo the game not surviving?
spies3Reicheru (8:29:33 PM): There are ways to avoid imprisonment.
spies3Reicheru (8:29:39 PM): Let's face it, I have tried most of them!
spies3Anneliese (8:29:40 PM): I've pulled a few lol
spies3Jessica (8:30:04 PM): true, but I think it is unfair for someone to play an amazing game and then lose because the spies wanted to take out someone
spies3Anneliese (8:30:09 PM): Yes part of the game is surviving, but like I have said before, if I must be sacrificed then I am glad to do it
spies3Jack (8:31:35 PM): Well we have under 30 mins
spies3Jack (8:31:38 PM): Who's the play?
spies3Jessica (8:33:00 PM): I am fine with carrie
spies3Jessica (8:33:15 PM): I will be so proud of myself if my episode two suspicion was right
spies3Anneliese (8:34:46 PM): I will be proud if my first instinct was right
spies3Anneliese (8:34:47 PM): lol
spies3Anneliese (8:38:51 PM): *breaks the silence*
spies3Reicheru (8:39:14 PM): Gomen.
spies3Reicheru (8:39:17 PM): I talk to Tenchi.
spies3Anneliese (8:41:17 PM): any insights?
spies3trina (8:45:05 PM): alright im off till exile chat
spies3Reicheru (8:45:09 PM): He stubbornly refuses to vote for Carrie.
spies3trina (8:45:48 PM) has left the room.
spies3Jack (8:46:10 PM): Interesting, then, if Carrie winds up being a Spy
spies3Anneliese (8:46:52 PM): hmm...
spies3Jessica (8:46:53 PM): Anneliese, is it still the same word this episode or did you get another one for the second part
spies3Anneliese (8:47:00 PM): same word
spies3Anneliese (8:47:10 PM): I don't know if I was supposed to post it for both parts though
spies3Anneliese (8:47:21 PM): probably not, it is technically still Episode 4
spies3Jessica (8:47:26 PM): yeah
spies3Jessica (8:47:30 PM): it just feels sooo long
spies3Anneliese (8:47:33 PM): I know
spies3Reicheru (8:49:32 PM): Hai.
spies3Jack (8:49:59 PM): I posted the word, just for the record
spies3Jessica (8:50:07 PM): as did I
spies3Reicheru (8:50:13 PM): As did I.
spies3Reicheru (8:50:20 PM): In my usual confession thread.
spies3Jessica (8:50:40 PM): I made sure it was in the confessional thread this time
spies3Jack (8:54:11 PM): So Carrie then?
spies3Jack (8:54:14 PM): I guess I'll vote her
spies3Jack (8:54:19 PM): I see more against her than Miles
spies3Jessica (8:54:23 PM): Thats where my vote is
spies3Jack (8:54:28 PM): Definitely bandwagonish
spies3Jack (8:54:32 PM): Though Miles is worse of a lurker
spies3Reicheru (8:55:09 PM): I do not think it matters to be honest.
spies3Reicheru (8:55:15 PM): I think it is both Carrie and Miles.
spies3Anneliese (8:55:56 PM): Carrie now asks me about Tenchi's "secret word posting discrepency"
spies3Jessica (8:55:57 PM): I feel like I am having a survivor "honoring the fallen" moment while deleting sone of the eliminated players from my contact list
spies3Anneliese (8:57:11 PM): lol
spies3Anneliese (8:57:19 PM): I leave them on so that I don't have to take the half hour to load that page
spies3Anneliese (8:57:50 PM): and I can then remember who all has played
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